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Reaper fleets show up in Council space, achieve total surprise, and begin to systematically shut down the mass relay network, isolating each solar system from the wider galactic community. The Council fleets sortie in a desperate bid to dislodge the Reapers and get slaughtered. Shepard meanwhile races against time to find some way to destroy the Reaper fleets. A final, gigantic battle takes place in our own solar system where Shepard boards the Alpha Reaper and blows it up.

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What if Commander Sheppard works freelance for the Shadow Broker in ME3?

Modifié par WoodWizzard87, 14 février 2010 - 03:19 .


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"Alpha Reaper"?

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CorvushatesEA wrote...

"Alpha Reaper"?

It's called YHWH. It's the Omega reaper, too.

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Ulicus wrote...

CorvushatesEA wrote...

"Alpha Reaper"?

It's called YHWH. It's the Omega reaper, too.


So, you're saying that for thousands of years in the Mass effect universe, practitioners of Judaeism have really been worshipping a massive bio-mechanical genocide machine?

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CorvushatesEA wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

CorvushatesEA wrote...

"Alpha Reaper"?

It's called YHWH. It's the Omega reaper, too.


So, you're saying that for thousands of years in the Mass effect universe, practitioners of Judaeism have really been worshipping a massive bio-mechanical genocide machine?


Well Yahweh was originally just one of many gods. He just wanted them to just worship him. 

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Same as always, putting foot to arse.

Modifié par MassEffect762, 14 février 2010 - 03:27 .


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The Reapers will go on a rampage, and once they reach Earth... they will succumb to the smallest of bacteria!

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...am tempted to make a joke here, but not sure if any anti-Semitic sentiments would be accepted, even in jest.

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CmdrFenix83 wrote...

The Reapers will go on a rampage, and once they reach Earth... they will succumb to the smallest of bacteria!


Win.

#286
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I have a feeling that ME3 won't be too much different from ME2 except that you'll have to activate Citadel relay to get to the reapers. Bioware games all have the same style ...

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One possibility i aam guessing to make it such that screwing up on ME1 and ME2 doesn't mean a total failure, just very much increased difficulty



If Rachni queen saved, get rachni ships.

If Geth saved, get more geth ships

If Geth destoryed, get less geth ships

If quarian convinced, get quarian shps

If salarians convinced, get salarian ships

If asari convinced get asari ships

If turians convinced get turian ships

If completed mineral gathering side quest, get more alliance ships

If not, get less alliance ships

If convinced illusive man, get ceberus ships



Add all ships together to get the time limt you have to complete the final mission, a chain reaction explosion of harbinger's Element 0 core or something similar (exploding suns, etc). May have to select who dies or you volunteer yourself



Added difficulties = missions for you

Admiral Xen tries to take over the geth and Admiral Koris then tries to invade the Quarian homeworld. You have to stop Xen (arrest or kill) and convince Koris to back down (or kill him if renegade).



Geth prepares to counter attack. You have to break through with Legion (if alive) to the geth master hub hive mind to plead your case or shut them down.



Rachni attacked by council fleets. Queen sends you an emissary to ask you conduct a truce for her. Both sides show up at a neutral world and are attacked by waves of krogans. You have to defend the entire bunch until the shuttle extracts you.



Salarian high command may have been indoctrinated. Kirrahe and Mordin (if alive) find you to execute a stealth mission (attack=fail) to kidnap the high command so Mordin (or nameless scientist) can reverse the indoctrination



The turians are not indoctrinated but base racism prevents them from being willing to join you. Fortunately their worlds are the first to be invaded. you have to do defensive/extraction missions to prove your not a human supremacist. If you returned the insignias in ME1, you can skip the mission but still do it to get them to commit more of their forces.



The asari require a meeting with their government for you to convince them. Samara helps you if she was loyal and not dead, it not you need good paragon/renegade scores. Returning the writings of the matriach done in ME1 may give you a leg up.



In a reverse to show that good deeds don't always have a good reward, the krogan are rampaging in council space if the cure was not destroyed. You will need to help Wrex (if alive) or the krogan leader restore order by personally pummelling the leaders into submission

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it will be just like Babylon 5. Another faction shows up: beings of light ( vorlons apparently, exactly same words even). And yet another shocking discovery: Reapers and beings of light are "first ones" that shepherded yonger races, but they have distinct philosophies (whatever that maybe). Epic battle between them and the galaxy is spared......

Modifié par chaos-zhan, 14 février 2010 - 03:54 .


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I hope not, that would be the biggest anti-climax ever.



As I said before in this thread anyway: I stick by the idea of invading them with infantry drop offs aiming to the destroy the core like a virus attacking a being's immune system/brain.

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chaos-zhan wrote...

it will be just like Babylon 5. Another faction shows up: beings of light ( vorlons apparently, exactly same words even). And yet another shocking discovery: Reapers and beings of light are "first ones" that shepherded yonger races, but they have distinct philosophies (whatever that maybe). Epic battle between them and the galaxy is spared......


That plotline would suck major balls, seriously.  At least come up with something partially original.  I want to see sentient beings actually have to save themselves for once, instead of at teh last second, some angels or light beings fly in and save the day.

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Problem is, sentient beings can't save themselves against the Reapers - unless Bioware will contradict themselves by 'nerfing' their strength. I mean, seriously, Sovereign shrugged off everything we had. Even though Turians were able to replicate Reaper weapon technology, I don't think its as potent as the original version. Well, we have to wait and see. I think that many people will be disappointed by ME3 ending though.

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Not as potent doesn't mean you can't kill them.

A guy with a bow and arrow can still kill a guy with a shotgun.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 14 février 2010 - 04:22 .


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There's going to be a hugely dramatic fight.

Shepard adjusts his helmet nervously, staring out from the cockpit over Joker's shoulder, a grim look plastered on his face. All is quiet as the normandy closes in on it's destination: the hornet's nest.

Heart of courage begins to play in the background as the crew becomes surrounded by the reapers. Ships begin to flood the area; the brightest, toughest, and deadliest allies gathered. Krogan storm troopers, the migrant fleet, rachni, all begin their assault. Following is the destiny ascension and an enormous Turian flagship.

The battle rages on. It is unclear whether they are in deep space or on a planet, but it doesn't matter, because it looks cool, and heart of courage has reached a crescendo.

Suddenly, amidst the blood, sweat, and tears comes a feeling to all the soldiers of dread; a black terror that strikes through their hearts and catches away their breath. A piercing light floods the area, and from it descends the most wicked and evil reaper.

"I AM ARMAGEDDON."

It's voice thunders through the air and shakes the ground violently with its volume. All is lost. Everyone is fleeing... fleeing from the destruction that stands before them; the unstoppable force that is the god amoung all reapers. The camera pans off to show Shepard desperately trying to convince some smokin' hot quarian that she needn't die a virgin.

Heart of courage reaches the final climax, and ends at a dramatic, spine-chilling note as a 20-kilo slug smashes into ARMAGEDDONS only weak point in his twisted and satanic armor, and a brilliant burst of flame erupts from the impact. The reaper explodes in a glittering array of purple shards, and they fall gently toward the warriors shocked and awed faces, fluttering and twisting in the breeze.

Shepard sheds a single, manly tear. "It is... so beautiful. Like a rain of salvation."


All is quiet.

All is saved.

The war is finally ove"--**** YEAH! I am the DEADLIEST SONOFA**** IN SPACE!"

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Sure, you can kill them. But we're not gonna have some sort of a duel with them. This is war. And in war, if you're weaker, you lose. That's it. I doubt 1 Thanix shot will destroy a Reaper. I don't doubt 1 Reaper shot will destroy our ship. And, if we use your comparison, the question is not whether he CAN kill guy with shotgun or not - it's whether he'd actually do it. And I don't think he would.

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davetheboy wrote...

Sure, you can kill them. But we're not gonna have some sort of a duel with them. This is war. And in war, if you're weaker, you lose. That's it. I doubt 1 Thanix shot will destroy a Reaper. I don't doubt 1 Reaper shot will destroy our ship. And, if we use your comparison, the question is not whether he CAN kill guy with shotgun or not - it's whether he'd actually do it. And I don't think he would.


Not entirely true. Numbers do not garuntee victory. As unlikely as it sounds, if the reapers can somehow be outsmarted, the galaxy could be saved.

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WoodWizzard87 wrote...

chaos-zhan wrote...

it will be just like Babylon 5. Another faction shows up: beings of light ( vorlons apparently, exactly same words even). And yet another shocking discovery: Reapers and beings of light are "first ones" that shepherded yonger races, but they have distinct philosophies (whatever that maybe). Epic battle between them and the galaxy is spared......


That plotline would suck major balls, seriously.  At least come up with something partially original.  I want to see sentient beings actually have to save themselves for once, instead of at teh last second, some angels or light beings fly in and save the day.


A Babylon 5 ending would be more like beings of light (the Reaper's creators) showing up, helping out the Alliance against the reapers for a while... and then going bat**** ****ing insane and start blowing up planets. Reaper planets and Alliance planets alike. We're talking major apocalyptic war here. And then in the final battle, you've got a small alliance fleet trying to fend off both the Creators ~AND~ the Reapers at the same time.

It's as epic as it gets.

Of course, the only way to resolve something like that is either with a horridly disconcerting plot device, or diplomacy. The cool thing about the battle in B5 was that it was won by convincing the Shadows and the Vorlons to "Get the HELL out ouf our galaxy!"

Unfortunately, as yet the Reapers lack the depth necessary for that level of understanding and/or persuasion.

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CorvushatesEA wrote...

davetheboy wrote...

Sure, you can kill them. But we're not gonna have some sort of a duel with them. This is war. And in war, if you're weaker, you lose. That's it. I doubt 1 Thanix shot will destroy a Reaper. I don't doubt 1 Reaper shot will destroy our ship. And, if we use your comparison, the question is not whether he CAN kill guy with shotgun or not - it's whether he'd actually do it. And I don't think he would.


Not entirely true. Numbers do not garuntee victory. As unlikely as it sounds, if the reapers can somehow be outsmarted, the galaxy could be saved.


The most likely outcome is that they will be outsmarted.  However to the first quoted me message, I am sure that a Reaper shot would destroy any ship existing now in one shot.  Had the Destiny Ascension been attacked by Sovereign and not a bunch of Geth Frigates, it would have had no chance.  

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chaos-zhan wrote...

it will be just like Babylon 5. Another faction shows up: beings of light ( vorlons apparently, exactly same words even). And yet another shocking discovery: Reapers and beings of light are "first ones" that shepherded yonger races, but they have distinct philosophies (whatever that maybe). Epic battle between them and the galaxy is spared......



This also sounds exactly like the plot of Galactic Civilizations II: The Dread Lords. 

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I think the ideas about using dark energy to make a sun go supernova near the Reaper fleet is the most promising story at the moment. The mission for this game would involve finding the technology to do this, and then executing the plan. The twist for the game can come in the execution sequence. One of the mission objectives would be getting a massive fleet to delay the reaper fleet advancement near the star that needs to be blown up. Depending on the actions of the first two game would depend on the outcome of the distraction. The fleet would either be completely destroyed and the reapers will destroy the galaxies advanced civilazations or the fleet would be successful and delay the reapers long enough for the star to go boom.

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I think the ideas about using dark energy to make a sun go supernova near the Reaper fleet is the most promising story at the moment. The mission for this game would involve finding the technology to do this, and then executing the plan. The twist for the game can come in the execution sequence. One of the mission objectives would be getting a massive fleet to delay the reaper fleet advancement near the star that needs to be blown up. Depending on the actions of the first two game would depend on the outcome of the distraction. The fleet would either be completely destroyed and the reapers will destroy the galaxies advanced civilazations or the fleet would be successful and delay the reapers long enough for the star to go boom.