Reaper Theories: How they will be beaten
#26
Posté 06 février 2010 - 06:47
What I hope for through the game is Anderson is the one doing uniting, sending you on a couple of super side missions to help him out a little. Perhaps the reapes have more agents, a la Saren, that are trying to keep the uniting process from being successful and Anderson calls on us to take them out. I hope that the majority of Shepherds time is uses for missions that reveal all the secrets we don't know so far and to find an ace in the hole we can use to defeat the reapers, such as a virus or something else. There is still the keepers we know very little about and there is of course the reapers themselves we know nothing about. It would be much better IMO that we discover this by finding wreckages or pre-reaper sites that tell us and NOT dialog with the reapers. I think the reason Sovereign jerks us around with cop out answers was just hubris on his part. We fear what we don't understand and by giving us such answers that answer nothing and make the reapers even more unknown than before makes for a more feared enemy in the reapers. I would expect nothing less than from any of the other reapers.
#27
Posté 06 février 2010 - 06:47
DarthRic wrote...
If there's one thing mass effect has taught us, it's that with a high enough paragon/renegade score anything is possiblemothbanquet wrote...
Do you think the Quarians and Geth will ally with each other just like that?
Haha, touche indeed.
#28
Posté 06 février 2010 - 06:48
mothbanquet wrote...
DarthRic wrote...
If there's one thing mass effect has taught us, it's that with a high enough paragon/renegade score anything is possiblemothbanquet wrote...
Do you think the Quarians and Geth will ally with each other just like that?
Haha, touche indeed.
Indeed! LOL
#29
Posté 06 février 2010 - 06:52
#30
Posté 06 février 2010 - 06:52
It's pretty safe to say that there will be an epic "showdown" between the Reapers and the allies / major factions of the Galaxy. Imagine you spared Wrex. A good ally as clan leader. Then the Quarians (you can mention that they better safe the efforts for the Reapers and not the Geth), and the united Geth, it could even end up with peace between the Quarian and Geth(resulting in an even stronger ally)...then we have the Rachni too. Also, the Alliance will probably assist as soon as they notice, along with the Council. A full Reaper invasion should finally open their eyes, especially when it's still that same old alien Council. Aria might play a role too, she could be a good ally with her influence on Omega and maybe even the whole Terminus systems. Then there's Garrus. He was in the Turian military and C-Sec. I'm sure he'll point to some important people in ME3. You also know a few Asari...Liara for example, her connection with the Shadow Broker might be either a blessing or curse for the events in ME3.
Heck, if you really think about it...then you have connections (some indirect) to every major and some minor factions in the Galaxy. And then there's this Dark Energy stuff. Might be used as a potential weapon. As I said...I'm pretty sure that it will end with a big showdown.
#31
Posté 06 février 2010 - 06:54
#32
Posté 06 février 2010 - 06:56
#33
Posté 06 février 2010 - 06:56
#34
Posté 06 février 2010 - 06:59
#35
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:02
CreepingGeth wrote...
I wouldn't mind if Twitchmonkey's post was actually the ending to this trilogy. In fact, I think I'd prefer it to a 'miraculously save the day' ending. I'd be fine with either as long as it's done well, but it'd cement the Reapers as some of the most menacing villains ever if their cycle continued.
Defnitely some of the most seemingly-impossible to defeat. Sovreign's death showed up that you have to kill the 'essence' of a Reaper in order to destroy it's body. When Sovreign possessed Saren's body, and you killed it, that was the precise moment the Citadel/human fleet managed to take it down. I think this part has been overlooked somewhat.
#36
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:05
This way all that is left is Shepard, the Normandy, and various pockets of civilization. It then ends with Shepard sending a broadcast throughout the Galaxy saying something about how they will rebuild.
Or something like that.
Modifié par VanguardtoDestruction, 06 février 2010 - 07:07 .
#37
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:08
VanguardtoDestruction wrote...
In all seriousness Twitchmonkey, that should definitely be a possible ending. Bioware should make it difficult to save the galaxy, with some paths leading to our failure. That would at least give it the feel of how powerful the Reapers are.
Aye, I think that it would be a bold move to make a Reaper victory inevitable, though not likely a very marketable one. However, having the Reapers win in most situations and making a victory require careful planning and preparation would be something I would be interested in. It might be on the same level of difficulty as having no one die at the end of ME2, except the cost of failure would be the destruction of civilization as we know it. How's that for tension?
#38
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:08
With a combined fleet of Quarians,Geth,Turians,Asari,Humans,Krogans,Salarians,Batarians and with the added "Here comes the Cavalry!" impressive Hanar-fleet at the end saving the day.
#39
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:09
Of course, we can't fight them head to head, there's got to be a clever plan to do this, but I'd still like it to remain not too convoluted.
#40
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:11
And then you set out and rebuild the galaxy's population with your love interest, which will be DLC.VanguardtoDestruction wrote...
Or maybe CreepingGeth, Shepard will find out how to destroy the Reapers but fails to deliver it in time before our Fleets are decimated. He manages to use the device, and the Reapers are eliminated. However, let's assume that the Reapers were loose for a while after our Fleets were gone, and destroyed Earth and many other planets while Shepard looked for a way to utilize his weapon.
This way all that is left is Shepard, the Normandy, and various pockets of civilization. It then ends with Shepard sending a broadcast throughout the Galaxy saying something about how they will rebuild.
Or something like that.
#41
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:12
Veritasinpersonam wrote...
Since they probably all have to be in the same place and the only Mass Relay designed for the is the Citadel, I think its likely that there is going to be some sort of Dark matter bomb that blows up the Citadel as the Reapers come through. Maybe it gets towed to one of these Dark Matter stars, or the energy gets funneled into the Citadel relay. Either way, I'm expecting the Citadel to be destroyed in the finale.
Except they're not using the Citadel to come to Milky Way.
I'm expecting every single choice to have a negative effect in ME3, which is why I'll do everything in my power to help the Illusive Man.
#42
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:13
TheShady wrote...
And then you set out and rebuild the galaxy's population with your love interest, which will be DLC.VanguardtoDestruction wrote...
Or maybe CreepingGeth, Shepard will find out how to destroy the Reapers but fails to deliver it in time before our Fleets are decimated. He manages to use the device, and the Reapers are eliminated. However, let's assume that the Reapers were loose for a while after our Fleets were gone, and destroyed Earth and many other planets while Shepard looked for a way to utilize his weapon.
This way all that is left is Shepard, the Normandy, and various pockets of civilization. It then ends with Shepard sending a broadcast throughout the Galaxy saying something about how they will rebuild.
Or something like that.
Brilliant. We better send these ideas to Biowares writers pronto.
#43
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:17
The ending being a Wrex/Sheperd loop.
Modifié par Deltateam Elcor, 06 février 2010 - 07:18 .
#44
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:18
"Face it, people. All it'll take to get rid of the Reapers is introduce them to the ultimate dream team consisting of Conrad Verner, The Biotic God and Blasto. One look at them and the Reapers will run... or try to."
Haha...
"Enkindle this!"
Modifié par Combine08, 06 février 2010 - 07:19 .
#45
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:19
#46
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:20
CreepingGeth wrote...
Slaves
Synthetics born to serve, to creators
Heed
To their every word, don't know fear
Faith
Of the Old Machines, the Reapers
Wait
Something must be done, four hundred years
So let it be written
So let it be done
We're sent here by the chosen one
So let it be written
So let it be done
To help kill all organic life
We're creeping Geth
#47
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:21
jerms510 wrote...
as far as the "have dark matter make supernovas to whoop the reapers" plan, I'm not convinced a supernova would do anything but push them around. It didn't destroy the Mu relay, just pushed it into a distant system. Since said technology is that of the reapers, I think it'd have to take more. It is also mentioned that reapers are impervious to even dreadnought fire.
I don't think the reapers could survive a supernova. They aren't made out of the same material as the Relays or the Citadel, as proven by the fact the old Normandy bore a hole through Sovereign's armor but the Mu Relay survived intact against the Supernova.
Modifié par VanguardtoDestruction, 06 février 2010 - 07:21 .
#48
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:21
JobacNoor wrote...
CreepingGeth wrote...
Slaves
Synthetics born to serve, to creators
Heed
To their every word, don't know fear
Faith
Of the Old Machines, the Reapers
Wait
Something must be done, four hundred years
So let it be written
So let it be done
We're sent here by the chosen one
So let it be written
So let it be done
To help kill all organic life
We're creeping Geth
#49
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:21
jerms510 wrote...
as far as the "have dark matter make supernovas to whoop the reapers" plan, I'm not convinced a supernova would do anything but push them around. It didn't destroy the Mu relay, just pushed it into a distant system. Since said technology is that of the reapers, I think it'd have to take more. It is also mentioned that reapers are impervious to even dreadnought fire.
Oh...impervious to even dreadnought fire?
Well...****. We better thope that
a) Cerberus, the Geth or maybe the Quarians come up with a way to weaken them or at least their shields somewhat
c) a) and
#50
Posté 06 février 2010 - 07:21
JobacNoor wrote...
CreepingGeth wrote...
Slaves
Synthetics born to serve, to creators
Heed
To their every word, don't know fear
Faith
Of the Old Machines, the Reapers
Wait
Something must be done, four hundred years
So let it be written
So let it be done
We're sent here by the chosen one
So let it be written
So let it be done
To help kill all organic life
We're creeping Geth
That was weird...was just listening to that song





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