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Reaper Theories: How they will be beaten


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#51
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LostScout wrote...

I think team Shep will board a Reaper, fight their way to the "Central Computer Core" and download a computer virus created by the Geth which will spread through the entire reaper fleet causing them to self-destruct.


hmm

Sound like The movie with Will smith .. That was so cheesy.
Actually when i think about it.The aliens look quite similiar.

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Do remember that the Reapers have Kinetic Barriers.

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And big eyes...

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supakillaii wrote...

Do remember that the Reapers have Kinetic Barriers.


Yeah those pretty much make them invulnerable to Mass Driver technology.  I am not sure but I think Thanix and Collector ship weapons would be much more effective against their shields.

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im still holding to my theory that the reapers are somehow using dark energy to prevent the angel of light from protecting organics.

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VanguardtoDestruction wrote...

jerms510 wrote...

as far as the "have dark matter make supernovas to whoop the reapers" plan, I'm not convinced a supernova would do anything but push them around. It didn't destroy the Mu relay, just pushed it into a distant system. Since said technology is that of the reapers, I think it'd have to take more. It is also mentioned that reapers are impervious to even dreadnought fire.


I don't think the reapers could survive a supernova.  They aren't made out of the same material as the Relays or the Citadel, as proven by the fact the old Normandy bore a hole through Sovereign's armor but the Mu Relay survived intact against the Supernova. 


well they only started doing damage to sovereign after you killed his "essence" (robo-saren). one could argue that this also had the effect of shutting him down, lowering his impenetrable kinetic barriers.

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jerms510 wrote...

VanguardtoDestruction wrote...

jerms510 wrote...

as far as the "have dark matter make supernovas to whoop the reapers" plan, I'm not convinced a supernova would do anything but push them around. It didn't destroy the Mu relay, just pushed it into a distant system. Since said technology is that of the reapers, I think it'd have to take more. It is also mentioned that reapers are impervious to even dreadnought fire.


I don't think the reapers could survive a supernova.  They aren't made out of the same material as the Relays or the Citadel, as proven by the fact the old Normandy bore a hole through Sovereign's armor but the Mu Relay survived intact against the Supernova. 


well they only started doing damage to sovereign after you killed his "essence" (robo-saren). one could argue that this also had the effect of shutting him down, lowering his impenetrable kinetic barriers.


True.  The main question is if those Kinetic Barriers were really only effective against the Mass Driver tech the Citadel/Alliance fleet were using.  I am interested to see if the Thanix, which is basically a copy of Soverign's Guns, could slice through the shield. 

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I'm predicting that the main plot in ME3 will be centered around uniting the various races and factions in the galaxy into one giant fleet, while simultaneously chasing leads on some superweapon that could destroy the Reapers.
The endgame would then have the obligatory ridiculously massive and awesome space battle as the united fleet of all the races distract/hold off the Reapers long enough for Shepard's ground team to set off the superweapon. Blowing up a sun would be quite an epic way to kill the bastards.


I think it too that ME3 will be about recruiting various races: Turian, Batarian, Salarian, Hanar, Alliance, Asari ...
With some bonus races like the Quarian &/or Geth (For me those two are connected), Rachni, krogan as bonus races depending on the choice made during the first two games.
I can see it going as time giver, the more races you have with you, the more time you have to perform the final part of the game that is really about destroying the Reapers. 

I can see the game being in three parts:
1 Finding the way to defeat the Reapers (But needs times to do it & realise that the Reapers are too close)
2 Unite the Races (To buy you time to do part 3 before it's pointless)
3 Go destroy the Reapers

I can even imagine an ending where you destroy the reapers but when you come back only to realise it was too late. Your squad are the only surviving member of the galaxy.

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i'm guessing that the galaxy dies.

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mothbanquet wrote...

CreepingGeth wrote...

I wouldn't mind if Twitchmonkey's post was actually the ending to this trilogy. In fact, I think I'd prefer it to a 'miraculously save the day' ending. I'd be fine with either as long as it's done well, but it'd cement the Reapers as some of the most menacing villains ever if their cycle continued.


Defnitely some of the most seemingly-impossible to defeat.  Sovreign's death showed up that you have to kill the 'essence' of a Reaper in order to destroy it's body.  When Sovreign possessed Saren's body, and you killed it, that was the precise moment the Citadel/human fleet managed to take it down.  I think this part has been overlooked somewhat.


Overlooked? >_> I remember arguing with someone for 10 pages on the old forums with someone who didn't agree with that. We stupidly overanalyzed everything. After all those old debates I'm glad I was right on the fact their will be a final confrontation rather then the past general consesus of "we'll just be making sure they stay in darkspace"

As for how they will be beaten .... a virus would look cheap. Even if you fight with all possible allies in the galaxy, the combined fleets would only serve as a distraction. I say something involving the history/origin/info of the reapers will help. I don't mean some ancient race to save the day, but maybe finding a weakness or something.

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Either with the "RT", "A" button or left/right click.

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     If your shepard is a renegade you can intimadate the reaper fleet from leaving, or if your shep is a paragon persuade them from leaving. 

     Another logical outcome is destroying their mass effect cores inside with a virus created by E.D.I., I think somewhere in the game she was made using reaper tech.

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At a complete guess; something along the lines of a dark energy fueled biotic doomsday weapon deployed against the reaper fleet while the combined forces of the aligned council (and terminus) races buy time for Shepard to collect the last "ultimate widget of galactic empwnment" needed to make said doomsday weapon function.

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Perhaps the gun that Cerberus found that destroyed the Derelic Reaper is actually more important then we thought. TIM dismissed it quickly, but I have a feeling he has plans for it.

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JobacNoor wrote...

CreepingGeth wrote...

Slaves
Synthetics born to serve, to creators
Heed
To their every word, don't know fear
Faith
Of the Old Machines, the Reapers
Wait
Something must be done, four hundred years

So let it be written
So let it be done
We're sent here by the chosen one
So let it be written
So let it be done
To help kill all organic life
We're creeping Geth


:whistle:

That is actually pretty awesome. I don't suppose we can get this kind of soundtrack in ME3... I think The Thing That Should Not Be also suits the Reapers. Though I suppose anything that has to do with the Lovecraftian mythos fits them.

The next novel is supposed to be about Reaper tech. Small-scale, of course, but it could allow for a potential breakthrough. Maybe we'll get more clues there?

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The citadel is shaped like an Misile, if posible evacuate it and thereby lose all hope that there will be an place for diplomacy in the galaxy, use some strong magnetic coils on the collapsing star whom should be a dwarf in ME3, and place them within the hollow citadel. then launch the whole thing right into the armada, creating a black hole of sorts that absorbs the Reapers and making that part of space unacceptable for future generations

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/.../


+1

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They will be beaten to death by Garrus with the stick he removed from his a**.

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Narosian wrote...

im still holding to my theory that the reapers are somehow using dark energy to prevent the angel of light from protecting organics.

dark energy is just mass effect fields, why does nobody seem to know this?

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How about if the Reapers just win? That would be hilarious. An awesome ending instead of a stereotypical happy one

Or they win, and those aliens that fought the reapers hundreds of thousands years ago and fled come back to finish them off? We'll see

Modifié par OfTheFaintSmile, 06 février 2010 - 09:38 .


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Bacteria.

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I think Shepard him/herself will be the perfect bait for the Reapers. Never before, or as far as we know, has a species so humiliated the Reapers. Not only destroying the traditional route through the Citadel, but also ending their servant race, the Collectors. Perhaps even Shepard interfacing directly with Harbringer and the Reapers, exactly what the want, as a force of will while the rest of the fleet serves to give time for this solution as the sacrifice themselves.



It would be epic if your squad, large as it would be with the current ME 2 cast and then a few ME 1 returns, would be broken up and you'd have to fight different scenes in the same battle, all designed to give Shepard time to face Harbringer alone.

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I think that the solution is possibly on Legion and the possible way to call is faction and unify the geth and with ther tech batle the Menace of the Ripers, along side with that the involvement of the Quarians that are tech masters with the rest of the Races to improve a lot the Ships and defences and Weapons using the collectors base to research and find great new improvements to use against the reapers, still I think , and this is the most important part, that somehow Shepard haves a wierd connection with the Collectors and ripers, caquse they were following him around and want him alive somehow.


This next Part Mass Effect 3 Will be massive.Image IPB

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Shepard definately needs to die for good. Luckily there's a lot of ways to go around doing that.

Legion already revealed that the old machines are somewhat similar to Geth, as each Reaper is a platform with a host of programs running on it. So maybe we need to attack them on all fronts.

It would be cool with the EDI, the Quarians and/or Geth attacking the running programs while the remaining fleets fought their desperate battle against the physical shells.

Modifié par Blackbird101, 06 février 2010 - 10:18 .


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Doomhams wrote...

Shepherd's goal is to board Harbinger and download a virus into the
computer systems of the ship,
maybe even EDI herself into the ships
systems. However, before either of those can work, the controller of
Harbinger must be taken out.


Far too cliche

Coincidentally, Independance Day is showing on terrestial TV right now.