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If there's a epic space battle we need a: "IT'S A TRAP" quote

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That would be epic, but it should be reworded into more of an homage than a rip-off

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Vorscythe wrote...

That would be epic, but it should be reworded into more of an homage than a rip-off


"THIS IS A TRAP" ? 

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VanguardtoDestruction wrote...

I remember from a Sci Fi book I read that when the Earth Fleet had to go up against these all powerful Reaper Like beings, all they did was build rammer type ships that would activate their FTL drives and plow into the Enemy. The force of an FTL impact destroyed even those beings with an incredible technological advantage.

Perhaps that could work against the reapers too, but you would need the Rammers to be manned by mostly mechs or AI to reduce the casualty rate...


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alekvie1337 wrote...

Vorscythe wrote...

That would be epic, but it should be reworded into more of an homage than a rip-off


"THIS IS A TRAP" ? 


Yeah, that'd work pretty well. Here's to hoping they put that in!

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Tahleron1 wrote...

VanguardtoDestruction wrote...

I remember from a Sci Fi book I read that when the Earth Fleet had to go up against these all powerful Reaper Like beings, all they did was build rammer type ships that would activate their FTL drives and plow into the Enemy. The force of an FTL impact destroyed even those beings with an incredible technological advantage.

Perhaps that could work against the reapers too, but you would need the Rammers to be manned by mostly mechs or AI to reduce the casualty rate...


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Doesnt FTL go through objects?

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The Reapers will not be defeated. Simple. They have been doing this for thousands of cycles - they did not do this just to the Protheans, they did this to innumerable number of civilizations. They have the expertise to deal with any interference and resistance the puny galaxy inhabitants could pose.

The Reapers will win, just like that. Whether they are the good guys or not - it is irrelevant. The cycle has been going for an eternity.



Alternatively, a completely alien race of little green insect-type machines will appear out of nowhere and destroy the Inhibitors (uh oh, I meant Reapers, yeah, right, Reapers.. They are so totally not ripped off of the Inhibitor machines from A. Reynold's books).

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X2-Elijah wrote...

The Reapers will not be defeated. Simple. They have been doing this for thousands of cycles - they did not do this just to the Protheans, they did this to innumerable number of civilizations. They have the expertise to deal with any interference and resistance the puny galaxy inhabitants could pose.
The Reapers will win, just like that. Whether they are the good guys or not - it is irrelevant. The cycle has been going for an eternity.


No one is going to go through all the trouble and effort of playing a trilogy just for it to end with the reapers winning. The reapers are going to get their shiny metallic carapace whooped, we are gonna tear those tin cans a new ventialation shaft!!! Hooah!!

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Midway through Mass Effect 3, we destroy Harbinger only to discover a data file on the race that created the Reapers. As it turns out, the Reapers are a safeguard put in place by the first sentient race to expand beyond our own galaxy. Said safeguard would continually activate before technology could reach a point in which galactic travel would be feasible, wiping out the intelligent races capable of creating this technology. All of this in order to prevent the detection of life in our galaxy by an even greater threat. The reapers reproduce using the lifeforms present in order to...



A) Build an army large and powerful enough to combat the intergalactic threat

B) Preserve our DNA and culture for such a time as it might be safe to reintroduce the species

C) Aid in the continued reaping of our galaxy



Salvation through destruction, or at least that's what I hope it turns out to be, unlikely thought it is.



As for the ending most of you are envisioning, it's been stated by Dev's that Sheppard will die in ME3. What will most likely happen is that Sheppard will sneak onto Harbinger as a huge space battle goes on outside and activates the self destruct while he stays behind to occupy / weaken Harbinger enough for it to work. The rest of the team runs for the Normandy while he holds the hordes of enemies off. Roll sad montage.

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Free Reign wrote...



As for the ending most of you are envisioning, it's been stated by Dev's that Sheppard will die in ME3. What will most likely happen is that Sheppard will sneak onto Harbinger as a huge space battle goes on outside and activates the self destruct while he stays behind to occupy / weaken Harbinger enough for it to work. The rest of the team runs for the Normandy while he holds the hordes of enemies off. Roll sad montage.


Who said sheapard would die in  ME3? do you have a link

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You need to use The Words - "Hold! What you are doing to us is wrong! Why do you do this thing?"

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Tahleron1 wrote...

VanguardtoDestruction wrote...

I remember from a Sci Fi book I read that when the Earth Fleet had to go up against these all powerful Reaper Like beings, all they did was build rammer type ships that would activate their FTL drives and plow into the Enemy. The force of an FTL impact destroyed even those beings with an incredible technological advantage.

Perhaps that could work against the reapers too, but you would need the Rammers to be manned by mostly mechs or AI to reduce the casualty rate...


Activate ludicrous speed!


"We've gone plaid"

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How to beat the Reapers in 2 simple steps:

First, get a bunch of volus.

Second, expose them to a large amount of red sand.



Then we will have an army of "Biotic Gods" to take on the seemingly invincible reapers. We cannot Lose... for about 5 seconds... Questions?



However, on another note. Reading all this speculation is making my brain go in over drive mode. All these theories and possibilities. Although, i seem to agree with the idea that the reapers are working together to ensure that the human race is safe guarded by a greater threat. Hence, are using destruction to prevent total annihilation of all human life.



But I'm sure about, is that we are in for a HUGE twist when Mass Effect 3 comes out. Can't Wait! Keep up the EPIC story Bioware!



-Pronto One

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Mooner911 wrote...

Dark energy converts suns into mass relays.

I've seen this on these forums a couple of times now, why? Image IPB

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Phinub wrote...

Mooner911 wrote...

Dark energy converts suns into mass relays.

I've seen this on these forums a couple of times now, why? ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png

Well, there are several reasons  that might lead people to this speculation, all mainly based on Tali's recruitment quest on Haestrom.
a) Haestrom's sun is becoming increasingly unstable and it is likely to "evolve" into a red giant in the near future.
B) Haestrom's sun actually is still very "young" so it shouldn't be unstable at all.
c) Tali's research has shown that dark energy inside the star seems to be responsible for the rapid "ageing" of the sun.
d) Dark energy is the energy tied to all types of mass effect fields - biotics, FTL drives and mass relays among them.
e) The Reapers are the suspected creators of the Citadel and the relay network so they should have a superior knowledge about dark energy and its uses.
f) The Reapers have to come up with a new plan to enter the galaxy.

So if we combine those things and assume that the entire Reaper strategy to enter the galaxy is/was based on using the Citadel's secret mass relay and all attempts to open that relay so far have been foiled by Shepard, the Reapers need a different plan. So why not using their knowledge of dark energy to create a new mass relay?

That's at least one possible explanation if one wants to see the Haestrom event as important to the main story.
Another one would be that we could somehow turn that dying star into a weapon against the Reapers, of course. :)

Modifié par Tankfriend, 08 février 2010 - 05:17 .


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Tankfriend wrote...

Phinub wrote...

Mooner911 wrote...

Dark energy converts suns into mass relays.

I've seen this on these forums a couple of times now, why? ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png

Well, there are several reasons  that might lead people to this speculation, all mainly based on Tali's recruitment quest on Haestrom.
a) Haestrom's sun is becoming increasingly unstable and it is likely to "evolve" into a red giant in the near future.
B) Haestrom's sun actually is still very "young" so it shouldn't be unstable at all.
c) Tali's research has shown that dark energy inside the star seems to be responsible for the rapid "ageing" of the sun.
d) Dark energy is the energy tied to all types of mass effect fields - biotics, FTL drives and mass relays among them.
e) The Reapers are the suspected creators of the Citadel and the relay network so they should have a superior knowledge about dark energy and its uses.
f) The Reapers have to come up with a new plan to enter the galaxy.

So if we combine those things and assume that the entire Reaper strategy to enter the galaxy is/was based on using the Citadel's secret mass relay and all attempts to open that relay so far have been foiled by Shepard, the Reapers need a different plan. So why not using their knowledge of dark energy to create a new mass relay?

That's at least one possible explanation if one wants to see the Haestrom event as important to the main story.
Another one would be that we could somehow turn that dying star into a weapon against the Reapers, of course. :)

Seems quite far fetched that they're distantly influencing a star so that it turns into a gateway (the entrance/exit of which should likely show up at a random location no?). There is also the problem that a mass relay is technology (complex enough that no council race knows how they work), not a natural phenomena.
And lastly i'm fairly confident the Reapers are flying towards the galaxy at the end of ME2, and we can't honestly know if it's going to take them a long time to get there or not. So would they even need a plan?

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I'm guessing detonating stars will have something to do with it.

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I see this question posted a lot but I don't really remember an answer, so here it is:

Do think this is the only galaxy that the Reapers harvest? Perhaps they are busier then we think during the 50,000 year intervals.


Also, to the guy who said that FTL makes you go through things, I am not exactly sure how fast the rammer ships were going in that book.  I know they were going extremely fast (fast enough to where the impact was more powerful then several hydrogen bombs) but I just said FTL to connect it more to Mass Effect.  

Modifié par VanguardtoDestruction, 08 février 2010 - 11:46 .


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Board the queen reaper, take control, and use it to indoctrinate the rest.

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knowing bioware, theres going to be a awesome twist at some part, like all thier other games, but the ending is going to be Me1 ending times ME2 ending times 5 by the power of pure awesome. i'm so pumped for the final battle, mono e reaper. BRING IT YOU UGLY SQUID ****ES!!!

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westiex9 wrote...

X2-Elijah wrote...

The Reapers will not be defeated. Simple. They have been doing this for thousands of cycles - they did not do this just to the Protheans, they did this to innumerable number of civilizations. They have the expertise to deal with any interference and resistance the puny galaxy inhabitants could pose.
The Reapers will win, just like that. Whether they are the good guys or not - it is irrelevant. The cycle has been going for an eternity.


No one is going to go through all the trouble and effort of playing a trilogy just for it to end with the reapers winning. The reapers are going to get their shiny metallic carapace whooped, we are gonna tear those tin cans a new ventialation shaft!!! Hooah!!


amen, now lets use Sir Isaac newton AKA the most deadlyist son of a **** in space, on thouse mothers. LOCK AND LOAD!!! THIS S*** IS ABOUT TO GET REAL! we are gona kick some Image IPB ass, then pound thouse reapers into dust. Image IPB

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Vorscythe wrote...

alekvie1337 wrote...

Vorscythe wrote...

That would be epic, but it should be reworded into more of an homage than a rip-off


"THIS IS A TRAP" ? 


Yeah, that'd work pretty well. Here's to hoping they put that in!


they already put jokes from other movies and stuff, whats stoping them from using that?

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shepard will fly into the master reaper along with Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum, upload a computer virus, which will then upload to all the other reapers and drop their shields long enough to launch a coordinated counter attack and take those s.o.b.'s down. Also president Bill Pullman will fly an F-16.