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How to be FRIENDS with Jack, WITHOUT romancing her?


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#26
Cat Fancy

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If you screw around with some dialogue, you can tell her it's all business between you two, which is about a nice as you can be. She'll still accuse you of "screwing around" with her if you talk to her again, but at least she won't be all "**** off."



And yes, more friendship options for members of both genders would've been appreciated.

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"***k off!"

#28
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Just dont speak with her, I ignore her and miranda and kelly.

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Miranda didn't come on to me. It might be because I didn't choose to have her talk to her sister, or it could be because I chose "You might change your mind when this is all over" instead of "You're really hard to compliment" when she was having self-esteem issues. Jack was a problem, though. What I did is just get to the conversation where she forces you to say you like her and just... not have that conversation. Samara's easy to avoid romance with, because you kinda have to force it on her. Not even sure if it's possible even then. Morinth will kill you if you romance her. Kelly's... no. Just don't flirt with her when you first see her and no problem.

So the only problem I see is Jack. And yes, you can resolve the cat-fights using charm options even if you're in a relationship with one of them. I solved the Tali-Legion thing very simply.

In ME1, I specifically told Ash I wanted to stay friends. In the next conversation, she was like "So, are you still interested in me?" And I was like "Ummm... crazy ho said what?"

Modifié par Tony_Knightcrawler, 07 février 2010 - 03:36 .


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Myself, I have never been able to talk to a woman without eventually having sex with her. As a result, I am not really expecting to able to do so in a video game.

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Zhijn wrote...

grayjedi00 wrote...

Zhijn wrote...

Huh, i made a friend of her just fine when i was romance'in Tali in my game.

When Jack goes "Are you eyeing me up", u just say no (neutral option i think)..
After that there wasnt anything, she even said i was alright after the suicide mission. =p


But I did do the neutral option, and I still somehow romanced her!  Are you positive??????


100%, i did the same thing with Miranda.
Didnt choose "paragon or the renegade" options. I always went for the middle choice.

Then again i had already begon romancing Tali at the time so mabye that had an effect.


When Jack confronted me with the "do you have feelings for me" dialogue, I chose the neutral option and still ended up in a romance with her. Maybe you have to choose the nuetral option in most of her conversations to avoid romance?

In any case, Bioware seriously needs to pull a DA:O and make the romance options friend-able in ME3. I don't enjoy pissing off characters I like just because the game realizes I won't screw them. <_<

Modifié par Captain Uccisore, 07 février 2010 - 03:39 .


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Vamp44 wrote...

I haven't tried this, but have you tried just choosing the neutral/middle option in dialouge?


Apparently the options on the right are arranged like this (from top right to bottom right)

-Lets bang!
- Wait...what? Ok. Let's bang!
- Sorry, gay.

Modifié par FusedSlayer, 07 février 2010 - 03:45 .


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Homey C-Dawg

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I had a similar feeling. Seems in ME1 if you picked the friendship route with a potential LI, they would still talk to you and tell you their story after each mission and stuff. In ME2 it seems that the potentials have nothing to say after you turn them down.



It also seems Shepard had more tact in ME1. I remember being able to pass on a romance by simply not going there, whereas in ME2 it seems like it's always "turning them down".

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I really wish they handled romancing and talking squad mates the way they did in Dragon Age...It felt more like a genuine friendship.



I loved the feeling of "man...I could really be a 'bff' with this guy" feeling I got from that game. Each relationship felt unique and personal. In Mass Effect you do more listening than anything.

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/male



Tali says she's interested, you can back her off.



Miranda flirts with you, you can say to keep it professional.



Kelly's dialogue is obvious.





I've tired everything with Jack, no luck. Renegade options = Renegade romance, Neutral and Paragon options = Paragon romance.

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Captain Uccisore wrote...

Zhijn wrote...

grayjedi00 wrote...

Zhijn wrote...

Huh, i made a friend of her just fine when i was romance'in Tali in my game.

When Jack goes "Are you eyeing me up", u just say no (neutral option i think)..
After that there wasnt anything, she even said i was alright after the suicide mission. =p


But I did do the neutral option, and I still somehow romanced her!  Are you positive??????


100%, i did the same thing with Miranda.
Didnt choose "paragon or the renegade" options. I always went for the middle choice.

Then again i had already begon romancing Tali at the time so mabye that had an effect.


When Jack confronted me with the "do you have feelings for me" dialogue, I chose the neutral option and still ended up in a romance with her. Maybe you have to choose the nuetral option in most of her conversations to avoid romance?

In any case, Bioware seriously needs to pull a DA:O and make the romance options friend-able in ME3. I don't enjoy pissing off characters I like just because the game realizes I won't screw them. <_<


CRAP!  That's exactly what happened to me too!!!!!!!! That's what started the friken thread for me!!!!!  Well, I do plan on doing several play throughs though, so maybe I'll manage to get a better result....eventually....

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I also REALLY wish that they had added friendship paths similar to what DA:O had. As it is, it's annoying. I'm hoping that the writers for the third one will take note and allow you to be friends with those of the opposite sex.

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I think Jacob was really well done. I played a male and eventually he was my home boy. We even had our own little handshake. Everyone else just blew me off and I stopped talking to Jack because I didn't want to pursue any LI's. I liked the scene before the suicide mission where Shep stares at Liara's picture. (Then he cracks his knuckles and I could have sworn he was going to beat off right there. Thankfully he leaves to talk to TIM).

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she didn't seem to hate me when i turned her down she just seemed angry to me because she couldnt understand why someone would want to take interest in her beyond sex which I thought fit with her history and mental state.

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BREAKING NEWS!

She's crazy.

Crazy people don't have friends.

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Kolaris8472 wrote...

Biggest disappointment for me in ME2, can't talk non-romantically to potential romantic interests.


Thane is the only female LI with much to say to MaleShep.

Garrus and Shepard go back to the first game, you think there's be an option to spar, or play darts, or something.

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ComTrav wrote...

Kolaris8472 wrote...

Biggest disappointment for me in ME2, can't talk non-romantically to potential romantic interests.


Thane is the only female LI with much to say to MaleShep.

Garrus and Shepard go back to the first game, you think there's be an option to spar, or play darts, or something.

I had reach she had flexibility.

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I've played through as both a male and female Shepard now, and the female Shep has a *much* easier time keeping things on a friendly level with potential LIs. In Thane's and Garrus' case you have to say something explicitly flirtatious to start the romance ("Maybe you and me could work off some stress together" is Garrus', and Thane's is something like "Friends, huh? It's a start" when he mentions friendship). With Jacob there are some not-obvious choices that come off as flirty, but he actually says something to the effect that he wants to keep things formal, and you have to really pursue him to start an actual romance.

Male Shepards, on the other hand, have to beat off potential LIs with a stick. My best guess as to the reason for the difference is that BioWare assumed male gamers would react better to members of the opposite sex throwing themselves at their character. Which is probably true.

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Tali will still be your friend if you turn her down, and Miranda will remain professional. Jack, however, is sex or nothing. While it does suck that you can't just "be her friend", I think it fits her character. She doesn't want a friend. She says as much right when you first talk to her. It sucks, but that's who she is. She'll either stonewall you or let you in completely. No middle ground.



I do with I could've hung out with Garrus and talked about more than we could.

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Zhijn wrote...

Huh, i made a friend of her just fine when i was romance'in Tali in my game.

When Jack goes "Are you eyeing me up", u just say no (neutral option i think)..
After that there wasnt anything, she even said i was alright after the suicide mission. =p


I more or less got this too. When the subject of sex came up, I just said I wasn't interested. It seemed a little touch and go for a while, but overall we seemed to be friends in the end. She even gave me an awesome "sup" head nod as I was walking across the normandy to get that datapad from Joker in the end sequence. Since I really like Jack and sort of want to be the friend she seems to need, but would prefer to romance Tali, I'm glad I was able to get something close to that.

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The lack of non-romance character development is a big, embarassing oversight by the writers (or call it whatever you'd like).

Yeah, some people wanted to climb anything and everything that has a hole in it, including Legion, but most character progression is simply cut if you don't romance the given character. The biggest flaw of the game. Well, there is one little chit-chat maybe, but that's it, opposed to ME1 where you could still explore the character.



With Jack, the easiest way to pull out a friendship is to act nice, but not showing interest in a romance (the lines are pretty obvious) while you already have a romance developing. If that helps.

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Zhijn wrote...

Huh, i made a friend of her just fine when i was romance'in Tali in my game.

When Jack goes "Are you eyeing me up", u just say no (neutral option i think)..
After that there wasnt anything, she even said i was alright after the suicide mission. =p


Good to know!

I was so puzzled on my first play through as to why I kept getting the "I'd like to talk about us" dialogue option. I kept thinking, "WTF did I say to initiate romance?!" I did NOT want to do that with her. Ug. Nonono.

I ended up just ignoring her the whole game. She survived the end, so I guess that worked out okay, but I could not speak with her again without launching further romance. Grr.

I loathe the idea of being forced into a romance with a char.

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THis sux, my shepard gets a "**** OFF" every time he gets near Jack...

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So just out of curiosity, I just started playing the game and want to romance Tali, is there any way to do this without being a dbag to Jack?

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Homey C-Dawg wrote...

I had a similar feeling. Seems in ME1 if you picked the friendship route with a potential LI, they would still talk to you and tell you their story after each mission and stuff. In ME2 it seems that the potentials have nothing to say after you turn them down.

It also seems Shepard had more tact in ME1. I remember being able to pass on a romance by simply not going there, whereas in ME2 it seems like it's always "turning them down".


Shepard is a galactic hero now... before he was just a secret agent.