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Why gay Shepard would be a terrible idea for ME3


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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

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Trying to record all this gay script would take precious time away from other aspects of the game for what is essentially an extremely small minority of the playerbase.
Shepherd is not gay. Get the **** over it.




Already recorded just not put in the game. Only thing that was missing was the sex scene animation rig.

Regardless I said I wasn't going to get into this arguement. So yeah. I'm done.

Its your right to play your Shep as heterosexual as you choose.

I still hope BioWare decides to place a single male gay option in ME3.


And I hope they don't. For the love of God...all you gay guys just preying on the "Oooh, I'm gay and therefore my opinion is more valid as I have been persecuted for my sexulity" arguement just starting to make me sick.

Why does there HAVE to be a gay option? No offense but from a genetic point of view being gay is a coding error. Chemical synapse error. We'd have a merry old time if everyone was gay...say goodbye to the species.



*headdesk* First I'm female. Second you do realize their have been gay people since the beginning of humanity right? =] Its not going away because some 2000 (if its even that old) religion says so.


DNA has been around since the beginning of humanity too...like I said, being gay is hardwired into your genes, and you are the minority. Wasting time and resources to implement (and yes, i watched your little video, one voice segment) it effectively and coherantly across all three games would be a total waste.

Whats also irritating is people feel obligated to side with the "safe" option of coming here and saying that people should have a choice but that's because the world is full of bleeding heart liberals. I'm by no means a homophobe but I don't want it rammed down my throat either. I don't want male members of my crew coming onto me when I'm trying to just get to know my brothers in arms.





*sighs* There was three vids that covered the romance first off all. Second of all the VOs did the same thing for the second game. <_< Third of all we're asking for the option where you have to actively persue them and otherwise would just get friendship dialogue.

(Frankly they should do that with the hetero mances too its annoying to have to reload when your gay Shep starts hitting on someone when you thought you were just being nice).


At no time do I want a male member of my crew to make a pass at me. Full stop. We're brothers in arms, not a bunch of gay's tooling around space camping it up. Yes, I know I'm steereotyping, but stereortypes exist for a reason.
It would go as far as to kill the experience for me. I mean you say "actively pursue", but how far? I mean if I'm asking a comrade about his history, his experiences, I don't want him to just start flirting with me.


Did you just read what I wrote. That would be avoided by having a option on the Dialogue wheel that's obviously fliratous that would open relationship dialogue.

Jeez read before you type don't you.

Gah you read before I edited. :pinched: NM just read the edited post.


The ME wheel only offers conversation guides, I don't know in advance EXACTLY what my Shepherd is gonna say. The bottom line is I personally (and I'm not alone here) don't want it in. All you gay's should just give up the goat, stop whining to Bioware, and if you want a gay romance go check your local gay club.

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I think trying to get them to accept that Shep in any universe could be gay at this point is an exercise in futility. They're so scared that a guy hitting on them is going to make them gay that its...ridculous. Liara's jumping on my F!Shep didn't transform me into a lesbian but whatever. =]

Oh well. I just hope BioWare isn't the same way.

Modifié par Ryuuichi009, 06 février 2010 - 11:16 .


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Orogenic wrote...

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Plus, think of the voice actors. If there not comfortable performing gay orientated lines, than your not going to get them.



Any actor with this attitude would be a joke.... reference Tom Hanks, Antonio Banderas, Robin Willians, Kevin Kline, Tom Selleck, etc etc...


So your saying your fetish (( and at this point it because more of a fetish than, a hey thats not right. )) is worth more than the actors beliefs?

Just because they do not agree with something doen not take form the fact they a good actor.

However I think you missed the point of my post. I do not disagree with gay choices in games, however I do disagree with placing them on someone who is not gay, or more so has never been written to be such.

As far as the banning goes in Singapore, one this is Singapore need I say more? Two Anyone with a brain knows that the Asari reproduce A sexually, and all have what we would conceder feminine traits. However, would this make a woman who has a relationship with one gay or bi, no. Why? it’s the race, since Asari are not male or female, it’s a large leap to assume, just because they have boobs, that EVERYTHING is like it would be on a human, they are not human, humanoid yes, but have you ever seen one naked? Nope, they could have the antinomy of a toy.   

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Also the guy banging on about his hot wife...m8...get real. Are you that insecure? I had to chip in as I think you should stop man, Red has the advantage on you, big style. He hasn't made any spurious childish claims.
"OMG MY WIFE IS SO HOT AND INTELLIGENT!" Why would you feel the need to state that? Lol @ You fella.


LOL.

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no no no no no no homoness please. at least i can just not watch the movies that have that gay romance ****. o for the love of god dont even put the option for a gay shep

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Also the guy banging on about his hot wife...m8...get real. Are you that insecure? I had to chip in as I think you should stop man, Red has the advantage on you, big style. He hasn't made any spurious childish claims.
"OMG MY WIFE IS SO HOT AND INTELLIGENT!" Why would you feel the need to state that? Lol @ You fella.


That was actually in response to the "all you homos" comment from your brainchild buddy.

Point is, I have more of a right to speak for heterosexuals than either of you... and I fully support same-sex romance options in ME 3.

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ReDSH1FT wrote...

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Orogenic wrote...

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Plus, think of the voice actors. If there not comfortable performing gay orientated lines, than your not going to get them.


Any actor with this attitude would be a joke.... reference Tom Hanks, Antonio Banderas, Robin Willians, Kevin Kline, Tom Selleck, etc etc...


Also: if they are not "available" to do gay oriented lines, then you simply don't use them.


Weren't you leaving?  I see that you flip flop quite often.  Which side of the argument are you on again?


I did leave for a minute, yes, but how am I flip-flopping? I've always held the same position. Just because I agree that Shepard is straight does not mean that I don't understand how people would play him as gay. 


There's no honest way to play him as a ******.  They are deluding themselves.  It's like me daydreaming in economics that I'm a Tyrannasaur rampaging through the college of business here on campus.

I'm fooling myself, and so are they.

There is no ****** Shepard.  There can't be, and there shouldn't be in ME3, or any other ME's for that matter.  He's straight.

Seriously is it that hard to believe?


Just because there are no options in game does not mean they can't ROLE PLAY. Come on, dude. You can't actually be so dumb as to think that nobody here understands what you are talking about.

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Hm my Shep was a woman and she loves woman, so she is gay. If the gender isn`t determined, how could the sexual preference?

Modifié par SethSteiner, 06 février 2010 - 11:17 .


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jpetrey123 wrote...

no no no no no no homoness please. at least i can just not watch the movies that have that gay romance ****. o for the love of god dont even put the option for a gay shep


But if they add in the option of Female Shepard romancing females, you'll be all over it.

I'd be too.

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They could make the dialog quite obvious, such as when your talking to Kelly. The three options if I recall were quite obvious on what they implied. I'd drop you (The clear renegade option) I'd Catch You (The Paragon Option) And I'd do more then just that (Obvious romantic interest)

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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

I think trying to get them to accept that Shep in any universe could be gay at this point is an exercise in futility. They're so scared that a guy hitting on them is going to make them gay that its...ridculous. Liara's jumping on my F!Shep didn't transform me into a lesbian but whatever. =]

Oh well. I just hope BioWare isn't the same way.


Ryuuichi, there can't be a ****** male Shepard.  Fem Shep seems to swing both ways.  Male Shep doesn't even consider the other side of the field.

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BRING IT ON KIDDIES.. this is FUN!!!

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Orogenic wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Also the guy banging on about his hot wife...m8...get real. Are you that insecure? I had to chip in as I think you should stop man, Red has the advantage on you, big style. He hasn't made any spurious childish claims.
"OMG MY WIFE IS SO HOT AND INTELLIGENT!" Why would you feel the need to state that? Lol @ You fella.


That was actually in response to the "all you homos" comment from your brainchild buddy.

Point is, I have more of a right to speak for heterosexuals than either of you... and I fully support same-sex romance options in ME 3.


Why do you have more of a right than us? We are heterosexuals as well. So because you think you're liberal by being supportive of a gay romance option you are right and we are wrong?
Can you even see the hypocrisy in that? I'm single, and straight. I don't NEED a girlfriend to tell me that, and if I was in a relationship I don't need to bang on telling people that I am in order to get across the fact that I'm straight.

You Sir, are more than a retard. A spurious liar, and a retard.

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wikkedjoker wrote...
So your saying your fetish (( and at this point it because more of a fetish than, a hey thats not right. )) is worth more than the actors beliefs?

He's saying it doesn't matter if some voice actors would turn down the job, because there would be plenty more willing to take the job, and that kind of scruple is not exactly common among actors in any case. 

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Orogenic wrote...

Point is, I have more of a right to speak for heterosexuals than either of you... and I fully support same-sex romance options in ME 3.


Because you're a true man with a super model wife.  I bet you watch Spike TV while driving around on your F1050 eating a rack of ribs.

You posit no logical arguments, all you do is reinforce how much more of a man you are then me and moriarty.

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Orogenic wrote...

BRING IT ON KIDDIES.. this is FUN!!!


We should stop. We're just padding the thread and making the issue look larger than it is truth be told. If they really feel that strongly about it they should be just left alone. I wanted them to leave us alone in the gay Shepard thread and came in here and started bothering them. *sighs* I'm sorry for disturbing the peace of your thread guys. I'll be sure not to post again.

I know it seems ridculous to us but maybe if we can show BioWare that we're the more mature group and let them see how many people really feel this way they'd gauge the reaction to see if its worth the risk to place gay romances in the game? 

So we should just stop posting in here. Its an exercise in futility and flamebait.

Plus I get the feeling if we don't stop personally attacking one another the banhammer will come out soon. :?

Modifié par Ryuuichi009, 06 février 2010 - 11:22 .


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jpetrey123 wrote...

no no no no no no homoness please. at least i can just not watch the movies that have that gay romance ****. o for the love of god dont even put the option for a gay shep

When your compulsion irresistibly leads you to choose the dialogues resulting in sexytime, just hit escape and you won't have to watch it. 

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ReDSH1FT wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

I think trying to get them to accept that Shep in any universe could be gay at this point is an exercise in futility. They're so scared that a guy hitting on them is going to make them gay that its...ridculous. Liara's jumping on my F!Shep didn't transform me into a lesbian but whatever. =]

Oh well. I just hope BioWare isn't the same way.


Ryuuichi, there can't be a ****** male Shepard.  Fem Shep seems to swing both ways.  Male Shep doesn't even consider the other side of the field.


Your wong on the FemShep, again how can she swing both ways when one apparently EVERYONE like the Asari, and two they are not male or female, they just are.

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I just want to romance Tali as a female Shepard.



What's so wrong about this?



I think more than half of the fanbase could care less about Male Shepard being gay.

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Red, read my last post. This guy is just too much.
I don't know if you're with a girl or single, I'm single, but he thinks because he has a...wait for it..."HOT AND INTELLIGENT WIFE OMG SHE ROXXORS" that his opinion is more valid than mine or yours? Is this guy a ****wit or what?

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Now I'm thinking that you're a middle schooler with that attack.  MY WIFE IS HOT, YOU PROBABLY NEVER EVEN HAD A GF YOU HOMOPHOBIC IDIOT.

Sounds like a closeted middle schooler diss to me.

Unlike you, I don't have to reinforce my belief in my own heterosexuality.  I'm confident where I am. 

And.

Watch this now, you're about to be owned...

If I never had a girlfriend, I certainly had the dialogue options to romance some girls.  I might just be very mission oriented.  FACE.


How is worrying incessantly about whether you might be hit on by homosexual males getting that point across, though? If you were really that confident, I don't think you'd be bothered by skipping over a dialog option left there for people who do that kind of thing, nor would you be offended if a gay squad mate hit on you in ME3. 

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Revid Emit wrote...

jpetrey123 wrote...

no no no no no no homoness please. at least i can just not watch the movies that have that gay romance ****. o for the love of god dont even put the option for a gay shep


But if they add in the option of Female Shepard romancing females, you'll be all over it.

I'd be too.


this is true hehe. but with guys its so different and wrong......i can tell you one thing my stright shep is not getting butt raped by anny ****got shep :P

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Guys, we all should stop right now. Red is obviously smarter than all of us because he has an opinion about how we should play a video game.

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If they do understand my point, which it doesn't look like they do, then they have to admit to themselves that they are being delusional. Shep is straight, and them hassling my favorite gaming company about having ****** options is just damn annoying.

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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

I think trying to get them to accept that Shep in any universe could be gay at this point is an exercise in futility. They're so scared that a guy hitting on them is going to make them gay that its...ridculous. Liara's jumping on my F!Shep didn't transform me into a lesbian but whatever. =]

Oh well. I just hope BioWare isn't the same way.

It's the way of human society, girls are much more comfortable with their sexuality, I see my girl friends kissing and hugging all the time, but that doesn't work for males, sure seeing Liara kissing your FemShep didn't turn you into lesbian but I assure you that MANY male players would have their gaming experience ruined by seeing Shepard and Jacob sharing a passionate kiss.

Does it make sense? maybe not but such is reality