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I've never bashed a "gay support" thread yet, but with the way all these ******'s are bashing this thread, it kinda makes you wonder who the REAL intolerants are...

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Great, a thread with actual interest gone to waste again, nothing new under the sun :/


Just keep it on topic, we have to.  Otherwise it could get locked.  Stay on topic, keep this thread where they can see it.

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Why would this be locked, HE IS STATING HIS OPINION JUST LIKE THE GAY SHEPARD THREAD.

I want gays in my games because I am gay.

Modifié par Endurance_117, 07 février 2010 - 12:49 .


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Creid-X wrote...

Yet again, the clips have an explanation...


And, as I noted earlier, one line of Shep saying in ME3, "You are the first guy I found attractive since before I started saving the galaxy" provides the same level of explanation as the one line in the codex about geth and heat sinks.

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I think that those of us who are in opposition to the idea without resorting to homophobia aren't biting our thumbs at the lifestyle itself, but rather the premise of having it thrust upon us (PUN) in a game universe we enjoy.



It's being said that it doesn't affect us in any way, but it actually does. Myself, personally, forcing it would make me extremely uncomfortable. Not to mention the total lack of context or precedent for the sudden change in behavior. It's not the Navy that the Village people sang about, it's a co-ed ship.




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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
It isn't wrong to view gay marriage as wrong by the way.

Yes, yes it is.  Marriage is a contract between two consenting adults.  Where do you get the right to tell other adults that they cannot enter into a widely accepted contractual arrangement? 

And I do. Not that I'm a devout at all, but I do believe in the sanctity of marriage. Now let's see how many people flame me for MY beliefs...

How does two men or two women getting married debase the marriage contract? 

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The writers coming up with gay options would be ****ing hilarious



Writer 1 - What kind of compliments do gay guys like?

Writer 2 - How the hell should I know?

Writer 1 - **** it, we'll just do the exact opposite of what we would like



"Your ass is looking mighty hairy today"

"Damn son, that's a sexy ass scrotum you got there"

"I love the smell of wieners in the morning"

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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

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Lol, all thats happening is the gay community is being more outspoken. But as long as there is more straight people than gay people (which will be always, thank **** for that) and as long as the majority of gamers stay straight and oppose this kind of bull****, which is highly likely, then I have no worries.

You didn't happen to notice gay marriage becoming legalized in multiple countries across the world, and also in the states?  Or polling showing approval of legalization of gay marriage trending upwards over the past twenty years? 

What "bull****" are you opposing?  The inclusion in entertainment of themes that you aren't interested in?  


It isn't wrong to view gay marriage as wrong by the way. And I do. Not that I'm a devout at all, but I do believe in the sanctity of marriage. Now let's see how many people flame me for MY beliefs...



Depends are you against gays getting married to each other period or gays getting married in churchs that don't hold that belief? 


Read Leviticus...pretty much say's it all.

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Brownfinger wrote...

I think that those of us who are in opposition to the idea without resorting to homophobia aren't biting our thumbs at the lifestyle itself, but rather the premise of having it thrust upon us (PUN) in a game universe we enjoy.

It's being said that it doesn't affect us in any way, but it actually does. Myself, personally, forcing it would make me extremely uncomfortable. Not to mention the total lack of context or precedent for the sudden change in behavior. It's not the Navy that the Village people sang about, it's a co-ed ship.


No one's trying to force it on you though. :? Honestly does having a paragon option force it on you? 

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
It isn't wrong to view gay marriage as wrong by the way. And I do. Not that I'm a devout at all, but I do believe in the sanctity of marriage. Now let's see how many people flame me for MY beliefs..

Gay marriage is a whole seperate issue. I don't see anyone asking for Shepard to be able to marry anyone.

Hating someone for something out of their control IS wrong, regardless of what religion you base your own opinion on.

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
Lol, all thats happening is the gay community is being more outspoken. But as long as there is more straight people than gay people (which will be always, thank **** for that) and as long as the majority of gamers stay straight and oppose this kind of bull****, which is highly likely, then I have no worries.

You didn't happen to notice gay marriage becoming legalized in multiple countries across the world, and also in the states?  Or polling showing approval of legalization of gay marriage trending upwards over the past twenty years? 

What "bull****" are you opposing?  The inclusion in entertainment of themes that you aren't interested in?  


It isn't wrong to view gay marriage as wrong by the way. And I do. Not that I'm a devout at all, but I do believe in the sanctity of marriage. Now let's see how many people flame me for MY beliefs...



Depends are you against gays getting married to each other period or gays getting married in churchs that don't hold that belief? 


Read Leviticus...pretty much say's it all.


I can't wait for Christianity to go back into the minority where it bloody belongs. <_<

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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
Lol, all thats happening is the gay community is being more outspoken. But as long as there is more straight people than gay people (which will be always, thank **** for that) and as long as the majority of gamers stay straight and oppose this kind of bull****, which is highly likely, then I have no worries.

You didn't happen to notice gay marriage becoming legalized in multiple countries across the world, and also in the states?  Or polling showing approval of legalization of gay marriage trending upwards over the past twenty years? 

What "bull****" are you opposing?  The inclusion in entertainment of themes that you aren't interested in?  


It isn't wrong to view gay marriage as wrong by the way. And I do. Not that I'm a devout at all, but I do believe in the sanctity of marriage. Now let's see how many people flame me for MY beliefs...



Depends are you against gays getting married to each other period or gays getting married in churchs that don't hold that belief? 


Read Leviticus...pretty much say's it all.


I can't wait for Christianity to go back into the minority where it bloody belongs. <_<


That will never happen, sorry B)

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Creature 1 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
It isn't wrong to view gay marriage as wrong by the way.

Yes, yes it is.  Marriage is a contract between two consenting adults.  Where do you get the right to tell other adults that they cannot enter into a widely accepted contractual arrangement? 

And I do. Not that I'm a devout at all, but I do believe in the sanctity of marriage. Now let's see how many people flame me for MY beliefs...

How does two men or two women getting married debase the marriage contract? 


Because marriage is a Holy Matrimony in the eyes of the Lord. Like I said, I am not overly religous but I have my beliefs. And while legally marriage is a contract, actually it's so much more. If you view marriage as solely a contract I feel sorry for you.

And also, who are you to tell me it's not wrong?

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Modifié par TheSpaceHamster, 07 février 2010 - 12:55 .


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DQE001 wrote...

Creid-X wrote...

Yet again, the clips have an explanation...


And, as I noted earlier, one line of Shep saying in ME3, "You are the first guy I found attractive since before I started saving the galaxy" provides the same level of explanation as the one line in the codex about geth and heat sinks.


BS.  The heat sinks are a technological upgrade.  Shep turning ****** all of a sudden, which is a chemical change in the brain, HIGHLY UNLIKELY, despite your wishes.

There's no way that could happen, and you're gonna have to accept it.

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This has to be a troll thread. It really does. I honestly couldn't see even a member of Westboro Baptist Church sitting here typing this.



Reminds me of Landover Baptist. Love that site, best satirical one out there. The same guys who said a life-sized doll of Jar Jar Binks was a "Satanic Masturbation Toy".



Brb, popcorn, this could get funny if it doesn't get locked.

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If only the genetic abberations that cause people to be gay could be expunged? We would'nt have this issue...

Modifié par JamesMoriarty123, 07 février 2010 - 12:53 .


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Endurance_117 wrote...

Why would this be locked, HE IS STATING HIS OPINION JUST LIKE THE GAY SHEPARD THREAD.

I want gays in my games because I am gay.


Lol. How is he NOT bashing?  He goes around calling anyone who's he thinks is not gay but yet a support and calls them an aplogist.  He doesn't mean that in a good way.  He's an obvious troll.  Who because of his beliefs doesn't want gays in the game othrwise why call us apolgist?  I've yet to call any of those against the gays a homophobe, but yet I'm called an apolgist.  Lol.

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illerianna wrote...

This has to be a troll thread. It really does. I honestly couldn't see even a member of Westboro Baptist Church sitting here typing this.

Reminds me of Landover Baptist. Love that site, best satirical one out there. The same guys who said a life-sized doll of Jar Jar Binks was a "Satanic Masturbation Toy".

Brb, popcorn, this could get funny if it doesn't get locked.


Troll thread because people don't want a gay option in there game?

cool story broseph

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Brownfinger wrote...

I think that those of us who are in opposition to the idea without resorting to homophobia aren't biting our thumbs at the lifestyle itself, but rather the premise of having it thrust upon us (PUN) in a game universe we enjoy.

It's being said that it doesn't affect us in any way, but it actually does. Myself, personally, forcing it would make me extremely uncomfortable. Not to mention the total lack of context or precedent for the sudden change in behavior. It's not the Navy that the Village people sang about, it's a co-ed ship.

You use the word forcing like you don't have a dialogue wheel in the game. It's possible for a straight Shepard to go through the game with no flirting. Why would this be any different to a gay Shepard?

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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Brownfinger wrote...

I think that those of us who are in opposition to the idea without resorting to homophobia aren't biting our thumbs at the lifestyle itself, but rather the premise of having it thrust upon us (PUN) in a game universe we enjoy.

It's being said that it doesn't affect us in any way, but it actually does. Myself, personally, forcing it would make me extremely uncomfortable. Not to mention the total lack of context or precedent for the sudden change in behavior. It's not the Navy that the Village people sang about, it's a co-ed ship.


No one's trying to force it on you though. :? Honestly does having a paragon option force it on you? 


It is being forced.  Not by BioWare, but by people like you.  Hundreds of pages, legions of homos.  Seriously where the hell did yal come from?  I never saw anything like this.

We like the game the way the devs made it.  Stop trying to force your beliefs on us.

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sw33ts wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

Why would this be locked, HE IS STATING HIS OPINION JUST LIKE THE GAY SHEPARD THREAD.

I want gays in my games because I am gay.


Lol. How is he NOT bashing?  He goes around calling anyone who's he thinks is not gay but yet a support and calls them an aplogist.  He doesn't mean that in a good way.  He's an obvious troll.  Who because of his beliefs doesn't want gays in the game othrwise why call us apolgist?  I've yet to call any of those against the gays a homophobe, but yet I'm called an apolgist.  Lol.


I've been called a homophobe in this thread, your argument is invalid 

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Endurance_117 wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
Lol, all thats happening is the gay community is being more outspoken. But as long as there is more straight people than gay people (which will be always, thank **** for that) and as long as the majority of gamers stay straight and oppose this kind of bull****, which is highly likely, then I have no worries.

You didn't happen to notice gay marriage becoming legalized in multiple countries across the world, and also in the states?  Or polling showing approval of legalization of gay marriage trending upwards over the past twenty years? 

What "bull****" are you opposing?  The inclusion in entertainment of themes that you aren't interested in?  


It isn't wrong to view gay marriage as wrong by the way. And I do. Not that I'm a devout at all, but I do believe in the sanctity of marriage. Now let's see how many people flame me for MY beliefs...



Depends are you against gays getting married to each other period or gays getting married in churchs that don't hold that belief? 


Read Leviticus...pretty much say's it all.


I can't wait for Christianity to go back into the minority where it bloody belongs. <_<


That will never happen, sorry B)


That's what the Romans thought about their religion. :D

Modifié par Ryuuichi009, 07 février 2010 - 12:55 .


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PyroFreak301 wrote...

Brownfinger wrote...

I think that those of us who are in opposition to the idea without resorting to homophobia aren't biting our thumbs at the lifestyle itself, but rather the premise of having it thrust upon us (PUN) in a game universe we enjoy.

It's being said that it doesn't affect us in any way, but it actually does. Myself, personally, forcing it would make me extremely uncomfortable. Not to mention the total lack of context or precedent for the sudden change in behavior. It's not the Navy that the Village people sang about, it's a co-ed ship.

You use the word forcing like you don't have a dialogue wheel in the game. It's possible for a straight Shepard to go through the game with no flirting. Why would this be any different to a gay Shepard?


Because Shepherd isn't gay...that's it...

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...


Read Leviticus...pretty much say's it all.

Leviticus also says you can't eat seafood, wear mixed fabrics (such as polyester) or have sex with a woman while she's menstruating. I am tired of knowing more about the Bible than people that claim to follow it.