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Why gay Shepard would be a terrible idea for ME3


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AlanC9 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
M8, the curernt characters are not gay, get over it.[/.quote]

How do you know they're not bisexual?



LOL

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I think Shepard can be gay if he wanted to be. He wouldn't "suddenly" become gay. All because you didn't have the option in ME1 and ME2 doesn't mean it can't be in the next game. When a squeal to a game comes out, somethings are removed, somethings are added, and somethings stay the same.



Also, I really don't see why anyone would get so up in arms about a fictional character that let's an individual choose everything that they do.

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I love how EVERYONE supporting a gay romance option isn't able to take two seconds to explain how it is plausible for Commander Shepard to magically turn interested in males in ME3 both new and old team mates while he's shown zero interest whatsoever.

Oloran wrote...

I think Shepard can be gay if he wanted to be. He wouldn't "suddenly" become gay. All because you didn't have the option in ME1 and ME2 doesn't mean it can't be in the next game.

It is implausible, male Shepard is portrayed as a confident 29 years old male, if he was interested in men he would have at least hinted about it in ME2, he doesn't, yet he shows a tanglible interest in women and alien-looking women, logical conclusion is...?

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sw33ts wrote...

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Notice how the trolls and homophiles conveniently ignored my well put together post...all they wanna do is troll us Red...


i didn't ignore you.  You stated that because kaiden and thane had former lovers of opposites in the past then they obviously must be straight.  Well that's not true because I've also had former lovers of the opposites in the past as well...but I'm not straight.  I'm bi...but i keep forgetting I don't exisit...doh...:pinched:

Kay I guess you win.... :?


Just because you're bi, doesn't mean they're bi. If they WERE bi, then they'd have made a pass at Shepherd by now. So your arguement is moot.

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Do you realize that the mere existence of such option defies all logic established in ME1 and ME2 right?




No, it doesn't defy logic at all. It is NEVER stated anywhere that Shepard is heterosexual. Never. Not by the devs, not by the dialogue wheel, nothing. You are basing your idea on what it says on the dialogue wheel, which doesn't define entirely who Shepard is.

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Well, to sum up :-



No gay romance for ME1

No gay romance for ME2



So..no gay romance for ME3? Here's hoping.

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

sw33ts wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Notice how the trolls and homophiles conveniently ignored my well put together post...all they wanna do is troll us Red...


i didn't ignore you.  You stated that because kaiden and thane had former lovers of opposites in the past then they obviously must be straight.  Well that's not true because I've also had former lovers of the opposites in the past as well...but I'm not straight.  I'm bi...but i keep forgetting I don't exisit...doh...:pinched:

Kay I guess you win.... :?


Just because you're bi, doesn't mean they're bi. If they WERE bi, then they'd have made a pass at Shepherd by now. So your arguement is moot.


Because you've obviously shown an understanding of all bisexual people in any universe.

Your argument is moot.

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Most people would happily accept the option of a new guy being gay. The current relationships of crew past and present are already too well established to be setting them up.



You should realise that alot of people arguing for the option would also decline should it be hinted at. The most important part here is the OPTION. It seems pointless going through great lengths to let people create Shepard just how they want him and just block out a massive part of character customisation, especially when the entire game is based on your relationship with team members.

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No gay romance for ME1




Liara and Female Shepard.



No gay romance for ME2




Kelly and Female Shepard.



Liara and Female Shepard.



Flirtation with Mordin about "hitting on him" and Male Shepard saying "Too bad".

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OldMan91 wrote...

Do you realize that the mere existence of such option defies all logic established in ME1 and ME2 right?


No, it doesn't defy logic at all. It is NEVER stated anywhere that Shepard is heterosexual. Never. Not by the devs, not by the dialogue wheel, nothing. You are basing your idea on what it says on the dialogue wheel, which doesn't define entirely who Shepard is.

He doesn't take interest in men, he takes GREAT interest in woman, he's been compared by Captain James T. Kirk in various interviews with developers, what do you think about it?

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PyroFreak301 wrote...

Most people would happily accept the option of a new guy being gay. The current relationships of crew past and present are already too well established to be setting them up.

You should realise that alot of people arguing for the option would also decline should it be hinted at. The most important part here is the OPTION. It seems pointless going through great lengths to let people create Shepard just how they want him and just block out a massive part of character customisation, especially when the entire game is based on your relationship with team members.


you can't make a Japanese man, is that discrimination?

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I don't understand the "would have hit on them already" argument. I never hit on any more than a tiny minority of the guys I was acquainted with. Probably 98% of them went un-hit-upon. Shepherd not hitting on anyone in a very small group of guys is not evidence that he's straight, it could just be evidence that he doesn't find any of them attractive enough.

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

sw33ts wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Also as previously stated, Kaiden tells you about a time he was in love with a GIRL ffs, that make's him straight. So Ryuuchi, go indulge your ****** guy fantasies elsewhere. I'm sure you've got some guy on guy stuff lying around...ugh...gross...


I'm bi, that's all I'm saying...once again.  Because You know.  Us bisexuals, we exist and we're here to sleep with yer brothers and your sisters and all of your cousins.

That's right.  Be afriad, be very afriad,  Of the love.  <3


"I'm bi.." Read = "I'm an attention seeker."


Lul, an insult.  I've been called worst by better my good man.

Lol, I repsond to your little educated post or w/e you called it...and u respond with an insult.  Great thing u did there.

Modifié par sw33ts, 07 février 2010 - 01:50 .


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The number of games where you can choose to be gay would be countable on one hand. Stop ****ing about it. Chances are there won't be a gay romance in ME3, and amen to that.

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He doesn't take interest in men, he takes GREAT interest in woman, he's been compared by Captain James T. Kirk in various interviews with developers, what do you think about it?




Shepard MAY take an interest in women, but can choose not to. Conversation files in the game hint at the initial thought by developers of making Alenko bisexual.



You can still choose not to flirt with anyone and it's completely compatible with being gay.

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Creid-X wrote...

I love how EVERYONE supporting a gay romance option isn't able to take two seconds to explain how it is plausible for Commander Shepard to magically turn interested in males in ME3 both new and old team mates while he's shown zero interest whatsoever.


Probably everyone thought this point was too obvious to explain. But since it isn't, Iguess I have to explain it.

If Shepard is gay in ME1 and 2, he doesn't have any romance options because he simply doesn't have any potential partners available. So he turns both Liara and Ashley down, and doesn't pay attention to the stripper in Chora's Den.

This doesn't change anything about how he relates to people, because a straight Shepard doesn't make the first move on women either -- he always waits until after they've expressed interest. Check the dialogs -- until after the NPC has expressed some kind of romantic interest, male and female Sheps have the same dialogs.

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Endurance_117 wrote...

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Most people would happily accept the option of a new guy being gay. The current relationships of crew past and present are already too well established to be setting them up.

You should realise that alot of people arguing for the option would also decline should it be hinted at. The most important part here is the OPTION. It seems pointless going through great lengths to let people create Shepard just how they want him and just block out a massive part of character customisation, especially when the entire game is based on your relationship with team members.


you can't make a Japanese man, is that discrimination?


Explain all the Asian male Sheps love. B)

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Endurance_117 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

Most people would happily accept the option of a new guy being gay. The current relationships of crew past and present are already too well established to be setting them up.

You should realise that alot of people arguing for the option would also decline should it be hinted at. The most important part here is the OPTION. It seems pointless going through great lengths to let people create Shepard just how they want him and just block out a massive part of character customisation, especially when the entire game is based on your relationship with team members.


you can't make a Japanese man, is that discrimination?

You could always go make a thread demanding a Japanese option for Shepard.

I'll even throw up the obligatory "Why Japanese Shepard would be a terrible idea for ME3" thread.

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Creid-X wrote...

OldMan91 wrote...

Do you realize that the mere existence of such option defies all logic established in ME1 and ME2 right?


No, it doesn't defy logic at all. It is NEVER stated anywhere that Shepard is heterosexual. Never. Not by the devs, not by the dialogue wheel, nothing. You are basing your idea on what it says on the dialogue wheel, which doesn't define entirely who Shepard is.

He doesn't take interest in men, he takes GREAT interest in woman, he's been compared by Captain James T. Kirk in various interviews with developers, what do you think about it?


I'm so happy the dev's have compared him to Kirk. Kirk is the ultimate ladies man, no way there will be a gay romance for ME3. Unlucky you ****** clowns...

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I love how EVERYONE supporting a gay romance option isn't able to take two seconds to explain how it is plausible for Commander Shepard to magically turn interested in males in ME3 both new and old team mates while he's shown zero interest whatsoever.




You do know that not every bi/gay person has been attracted to the same gender all their lives, right? I mean, there are those who have only been attracted to the opposite sex up to a certain point in their lives, and then start to realize that the same sex isn't all that bad. Whether it's because they've been in a very, very deep denial earlier or because they've changed somehow is irrelevant. That might very well be the kind of epiphany Shepard has, if same-sex romances are introduced in ME3. It's not at all unrealistic in any way.



Still, since the female Shepard can be gay in ME2, it's already been introduced, so there really shouldn't be any problem. But even if it hadn't been introduced already, the problem would be non-existent.

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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

Most people would happily accept the option of a new guy being gay. The current relationships of crew past and present are already too well established to be setting them up.

You should realise that alot of people arguing for the option would also decline should it be hinted at. The most important part here is the OPTION. It seems pointless going through great lengths to let people create Shepard just how they want him and just block out a massive part of character customisation, especially when the entire game is based on your relationship with team members.


you can't make a Japanese man, is that discrimination?


Explain all the Asian male Sheps love. B)


Asian =/= Japanese :crying:

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Notice how the trolls and homophiles conveniently ignored my well put together post...all they wanna do is troll us Red...


Dude I know.  Ironically, my super hot girlfriend brought some food over, hence my weaker posts.  She's gone now though, time to focus on the issue.

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Endurance_117 wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

Most people would happily accept the option of a new guy being gay. The current relationships of crew past and present are already too well established to be setting them up.

You should realise that alot of people arguing for the option would also decline should it be hinted at. The most important part here is the OPTION. It seems pointless going through great lengths to let people create Shepard just how they want him and just block out a massive part of character customisation, especially when the entire game is based on your relationship with team members.


you can't make a Japanese man, is that discrimination?


Explain all the Asian male Sheps love. B)


Asian =/= Japanese :crying:


Well you can tweak his face and make him Japanese then.

At least you get close :bandit:

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I'm so happy the dev's have compared him to Kirk. Kirk is the ultimate ladies man, no way there will be a gay romance for ME3. Unlucky you ****** clowns...




Stop being so insulting.

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Sigh, I'd love to bring a bit of the ultra violence to some people in this thread...so funny how big mouths get awful small when the fists come out...



Sadly, this is the internet, and weak fools have a voice...