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[ReDSH1FT]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Well, I think I'm going to be off enjoying me NONGAY Mass Effect games until my next NONGAY Mass Effect game comes out.

This thread will be a repeat machine now, its been talked to death.
Fact is, majority rules. I'm pretty confident we won't see any gay romance. Shepherd is too bad ass to be a bender.

Peace out. Whatever Redshift says, chances are good I'm in agreement. Him and Cried only ones making any sense here.

Yeah I'm about to start my 3rd playthrough.  Be eZ.

I'll probably be back tomorrow to see what mess they spread in here.

[JamesMoriarty123]

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
Thats the funny thing, all that intellect means **** all when someone runs up to you and nuts you. Clever words and a MASSIVE sense of self righteousness aren't going to reset your nose.

Acting a hardman over the internet is a good way to make everyone discard your opinion on everything.

What I'm saying is fact. People change their opinion awful fast when it gets physical. Obviously because we are on the net here that's not gonna happen. The fact is if this was a conversation in a pub, most of the people on here would have STF.U by now.

I don't consider this whole thread sufficient reason to assault anyone.  I could easily have a debate like this in real life and be in no danger of going on a murderous rampage.  No one I know would assault someone over this debate either.  I find it kind of scary that you appeal to physical violence to "solve" arguments.  I guess I don't associate with the kind of people that think that's appropriate.  I'm certainly glad I'm on the other side of the internet.  

If we were talking in the same room, you'd be outside laid out by now. Chances are good you don't mingle with the working class heroes that I've been brought up alongside.
90% of intellectual clowns like you have no idea about how life really is. I know a lot of hard, resilient men, and I'm not talking about fighters, I'm talking about taking no **** and pushing through whatever life throws at em. Sadly, violence is sometimes necessary to push on.

I feel genuine pity reading this.

I can respect people being resilient, however throwing yourself into a fight rather than walking away is a culture I'm glad I dont involve myself in. Sadly it seems to be becoming more prevalent than anything, not good for a society thats supposedly advancing.

All that proves is that you're a yellow sack of **** without the spine god gave ya...bet you got bullied at school too...

[AlanC9]

Creid-X wrote...

Since you are having trouble getting this, I'll spell it out for you.
You can have sex with women as male Shepard? Yes, you can
You can't have sex with males? no, you cannot.
Why?
tip-it isn't because the rest of the crew  Kaidan/Jacob/Thane/Garrus are hetero and your Shepard is gay that is your baseless razionalization.

Are you saying they're actually bi, and they'd go for Shepard if he wasn't straight? You're serious?

M/M relationships were consciously erradicated from the procces of development because it was decided male commander Shepard would be heterosexual not bisexual, not homosexual

And you know this.... how?

[Kreid]

[quote]John Forseti wrote...

[quote]ReDSH1FT wrote...

Right, utter rubbish when I express my opinion, but as long as it's in the "fad" category it's cool.  Homos are making active pushes for stuff all over the country, and that's fine, whatever I don't care.  But when a group of homos tries to get the main character for my favorite game changed, then I'm gonna bite back.

It's not just about pressing no if the option comes up.  The option shouldn't be there at all.  Why is Shepard having these thoughts all of a sudden?  

No dude.  Not in my house.  I'm gonna voice out against the hundreds of other posters on here that support it.  If you think dissenting opinions are bad, then w/e bud.
[/quote]

Having an opinion doesn't mean you don't have to defend it, and so far you've failed to do so.


The very nature of the game makes a gay or bisexual male Shepard entirely plausible. The main character is pretty much a blank slate until you the player comes along and starts filling stuff in. There is no set main character beyond the name Shepard. Just because the option hasn't appeared so far, it doesn't follow that the option should not be available.
Yet it has appeared consciously from the stand of the developers in the case of female Shepard and not in the case of male Shepard, what does it say to you?

Modifié par Creid-X, 07 février 2010 - 02:51 .

[Amikae]

I really dont understand all this argue. Its not about discrimination. There is no discrimination here. If the concept and story of ME allowed male Shepard to be gay, im sure they would have made that option available. However its really hard for me to imagine a gay hero, who saves the whole damn galaxy. Im sorry if im insulting anyone, but there's no such thing. It doesnt exist. It simply doesnt cut it. And if those gay options were to appear in ME3, the homosexual ppl will be happy, but almost everyone else will be annoyed and disappointed. This would pretty much ruin the whole "epicsavingthegalaxy" experience for me. Knowing that there is this option there that if i click on i can get some butt action for my Sheppie. I dont want to even think about it. 

And it would be a terrible PR move. How would they build up a big sci fi franchise if the protagonist suddenly becomse gay. Accept that the universe of Mass Effect is created like this. This is what we have and in this universe, male Shepard cannot be gay. Im sure that in future projects there could be some other character that may have such options. But not Shepard.

Shepard is an icon! Im sorry but i dont want to imagine this icon bending down with no pants and a horny black dude charging for his behinds.

Modifié par Amikae, 07 février 2010 - 02:53 .

[Endurance_117]

This thread is going to pass the Gay Shepard Part 2 thread at this pace lol

[illerianna]

Amikae wrote...

I really dont understand all this argue. Its not about discrimination. There is no discrimination here. If the concept and story of ME allowed male Shepard to be gay, im sure they would have made that option available. However its really hard for me to imagine a gay hero, who saves the whole damn galaxy. Im sorry if im insulting anyone, but there's no such thing. It doesnt exist. It simply doesnt cut it. And if those gay options were to appear in ME3, the homosexual ppl will be happy, but almost everyone else will be annoyed and disappointed. This would pretty much ruin the whole "epicsavingthegalaxy" experience for me. Knowing that there is this option there that if i click on i can get some butt action for my Sheppie. I dont want to even think about it. 

And it would be a terrible PR move. How would they build up a big sci fi franchise if the protagonist suddenly becomse gay. Accept that the universe of Mass Effect is created like this. This is what we have and in this universe, male Shepard cannot be gay. Im sure that in future projects there could be some other character that may have such options. But not Shepard.

Shepard is an icon! Im sorry but i dont want to imagine this icon bending down with no pants and a horny black dude charging for his behinds.

Ah, stereotypes. I love you so, so much.

[Creature 1]

PyroFreak301 wrote...
I feel genuine pity reading this.

I can respect people being resilient, however throwing yourself into a fight rather than walking away is a culture I'm glad I dont involve myself in. Sadly it seems to be becoming more prevalent than anything, not good for a society thats supposedly advancing.

I've been acquainted with some working class people and none of them have been as gung-ho about violence as a way to solve debates as he seems to be.  I'm hoping that this type of attitude is not becoming more common in general, although I know that it is among poor inner city residents. 

I think it's more a personal thing, he seems insecure about a variety of different topics (social class, intelligence, religion, and gender roles).  

[Endurance_117]

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

I really dont understand all this argue. Its not about discrimination. There is no discrimination here. If the concept and story of ME allowed male Shepard to be gay, im sure they would have made that option available. However its really hard for me to imagine a gay hero, who saves the whole damn galaxy. Im sorry if im insulting anyone, but there's no such thing. It doesnt exist. It simply doesnt cut it. And if those gay options were to appear in ME3, the homosexual ppl will be happy, but almost everyone else will be annoyed and disappointed. This would pretty much ruin the whole "epicsavingthegalaxy" experience for me. Knowing that there is this option there that if i click on i can get some butt action for my Sheppie. I dont want to even think about it. 

And it would be a terrible PR move. How would they build up a big sci fi franchise if the protagonist suddenly becomse gay. Accept that the universe of Mass Effect is created like this. This is what we have and in this universe, male Shepard cannot be gay. Im sure that in future projects there could be some other character that may have such options. But not Shepard.

Shepard is an icon! Im sorry but i dont want to imagine this icon bending down with no pants and a horny black dude charging for his behinds.

Ah, stereotypes. I love you so, so much.

Why are you still in this thread, it's about supporting OP's op

[JamesMoriarty123]

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

I really dont understand all this argue. Its not about discrimination. There is no discrimination here. If the concept and story of ME allowed male Shepard to be gay, im sure they would have made that option available. However its really hard for me to imagine a gay hero, who saves the whole damn galaxy. Im sorry if im insulting anyone, but there's no such thing. It doesnt exist. It simply doesnt cut it. And if those gay options were to appear in ME3, the homosexual ppl will be happy, but almost everyone else will be annoyed and disappointed. This would pretty much ruin the whole "epicsavingthegalaxy" experience for me. Knowing that there is this option there that if i click on i can get some butt action for my Sheppie. I dont want to even think about it. 

And it would be a terrible PR move. How would they build up a big sci fi franchise if the protagonist suddenly becomse gay. Accept that the universe of Mass Effect is created like this. This is what we have and in this universe, male Shepard cannot be gay. Im sure that in future projects there could be some other character that may have such options. But not Shepard.

Shepard is an icon! Im sorry but i dont want to imagine this icon bending down with no pants and a horny black dude charging for his behinds.

Ah, stereotypes. I love you so, so much.

Stereotypes exist for a reason.
And he's right, it would be a terrible PR move.

[illerianna]

Endurance_117 wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

I really dont understand all this argue. Its not about discrimination. There is no discrimination here. If the concept and story of ME allowed male Shepard to be gay, im sure they would have made that option available. However its really hard for me to imagine a gay hero, who saves the whole damn galaxy. Im sorry if im insulting anyone, but there's no such thing. It doesnt exist. It simply doesnt cut it. And if those gay options were to appear in ME3, the homosexual ppl will be happy, but almost everyone else will be annoyed and disappointed. This would pretty much ruin the whole "epicsavingthegalaxy" experience for me. Knowing that there is this option there that if i click on i can get some butt action for my Sheppie. I dont want to even think about it. 

And it would be a terrible PR move. How would they build up a big sci fi franchise if the protagonist suddenly becomse gay. Accept that the universe of Mass Effect is created like this. This is what we have and in this universe, male Shepard cannot be gay. Im sure that in future projects there could be some other character that may have such options. But not Shepard.

Shepard is an icon! Im sorry but i dont want to imagine this icon bending down with no pants and a horny black dude charging for his behinds.

Ah, stereotypes. I love you so, so much.

Why are you still in this thread, it's about supporting OP's op

I'm waiting on a download that's taking awhile.

This is a public forum, yes? I think I'm allowed to be here if I wish.

[John Forseti]

Creid-X wrote...

Yet it has appeared consciously from the stand of the developers in the case of female Shepard and not in the case of male Shepard, what does it say to you?

Beyond the simple fact that so far the option hasn't appeared. Nothing.

[Endurance_117]

illerianna wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

I really dont understand all this argue. Its not about discrimination. There is no discrimination here. If the concept and story of ME allowed male Shepard to be gay, im sure they would have made that option available. However its really hard for me to imagine a gay hero, who saves the whole damn galaxy. Im sorry if im insulting anyone, but there's no such thing. It doesnt exist. It simply doesnt cut it. And if those gay options were to appear in ME3, the homosexual ppl will be happy, but almost everyone else will be annoyed and disappointed. This would pretty much ruin the whole "epicsavingthegalaxy" experience for me. Knowing that there is this option there that if i click on i can get some butt action for my Sheppie. I dont want to even think about it. 

And it would be a terrible PR move. How would they build up a big sci fi franchise if the protagonist suddenly becomse gay. Accept that the universe of Mass Effect is created like this. This is what we have and in this universe, male Shepard cannot be gay. Im sure that in future projects there could be some other character that may have such options. But not Shepard.

Shepard is an icon! Im sorry but i dont want to imagine this icon bending down with no pants and a horny black dude charging for his behinds.

Ah, stereotypes. I love you so, so much.

Why are you still in this thread, it's about supporting OP's op

I'm waiting on a download that's taking awhile.

This is a public forum, yes? I think I'm allowed to be here if I wish.

You are stirring up trouble missy 

[Kreid]

[quote]AlanC9 wrote...
Are you saying they're actually bi, and they'd go for Shepard if he wasn't straight? You're serious?
[/quote]
No, I'm saying that the people that say their Shepards "are gay" but have no one to answer their feeling in their role play are trying to put their own fantasies over the fact that you simply cannot romance males and you can romance females, because it was designed so by the developers.
They rationalizing their wishes.
[quote]
[/quote][quote]And you know this.... how?[/quote]
Because it is common knowledge here that Kaidan was going to be bisexual and this decision was scrapped before the game came out?
Now Shepard can only romance females, put 2+2 together.
[/quote]
And as I said before, someone, maybe you i don't remember anyways, said that the proof Shepard was "neutral" in his sexuality was the fact that he never made a move if no one made a move on him before, look at my prior post it's clear Shepards makes a move on Samara out of a casual convo, by himself, and samara looks female

[Endurance_117]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

I really dont understand all this argue. Its not about discrimination. There is no discrimination here. If the concept and story of ME allowed male Shepard to be gay, im sure they would have made that option available. However its really hard for me to imagine a gay hero, who saves the whole damn galaxy. Im sorry if im insulting anyone, but there's no such thing. It doesnt exist. It simply doesnt cut it. And if those gay options were to appear in ME3, the homosexual ppl will be happy, but almost everyone else will be annoyed and disappointed. This would pretty much ruin the whole "epicsavingthegalaxy" experience for me. Knowing that there is this option there that if i click on i can get some butt action for my Sheppie. I dont want to even think about it. 

And it would be a terrible PR move. How would they build up a big sci fi franchise if the protagonist suddenly becomse gay. Accept that the universe of Mass Effect is created like this. This is what we have and in this universe, male Shepard cannot be gay. Im sure that in future projects there could be some other character that may have such options. But not Shepard.

Shepard is an icon! Im sorry but i dont want to imagine this icon bending down with no pants and a horny black dude charging for his behinds.

Ah, stereotypes. I love you so, so much.

Why are you still in this thread, it's about supporting OP's op

I'm waiting on a download that's taking awhile.

This is a public forum, yes? I think I'm allowed to be here if I wish.

You are stirring up trouble missy 

Bah don't be a hypocrite Endurance you're in the other thread all the time.

lol shh 

[Ziggeh]

ReDSH1FT wrote...
My god you are arrogant.  Get off your high horse, or make it get off you, I don't know what it is you do..

Flirting with a guy is never an option in my playbook.  It's obviously not in Shepards either.  Putting the ****** in him is a waste of development time..

Putting "******" into the game would increase the emotional weight, and add value for gay gamers and women playing as men. In the same way Kelly dancing was decent if cheap value for me playing a female shepard. (I'm not actually homosexual, or indeed into bestiality, I just have capacity for rational thought.)

Would you, just as an example, let people die to achieve a goal? I'm pretty sure thats something I would avoid, personal ethics you understand. It's not an option in, as you say, my playbook. Yet it's in Shepards.

From this we can conclude: Shepard is not me. I would add further to this statement: Shepard is not you either.

Lets be honest here, I'm sure there is all sorts of beating around the bush and vague justification, but its not that you don't feel Shepard could not be gay, because "Shepard" is an artificial construct upon which we're imposing personality traits, nasty/nice being the better example. Saying that he's like this or that is non sensical because he's niether until the player decides he/she is. And its not as if the option being there means, implies or demands that he secretly likes guys/girls, because you don't assume Shepard both saved and shot some guy just because both options were there. The premise of the OP is a logical failure.

So really, and I apologise if I'm wildly off base here, but I feel given your all purpose derogatory use of the word "******", its probably safe to say, you just don't like homosexuality as a concept and feel that its use in any medium is a bad thing.

That's fair enough. It's your opinion. It's bigoted and unpleasant, but hey, no ones perfect. I'm arrogant and condescending, for example.

Modifié par ziggehunderslash, 07 février 2010 - 03:01 .

[JamesMoriarty123]

Pointless arguing it tbh, aint gonna happen. If it was going to happen, it would have happened before now. If the dev's wanted it in, then it would be in.

Praise Bioware.

[illerianna]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

I really dont understand all this argue. Its not about discrimination. There is no discrimination here. If the concept and story of ME allowed male Shepard to be gay, im sure they would have made that option available. However its really hard for me to imagine a gay hero, who saves the whole damn galaxy. Im sorry if im insulting anyone, but there's no such thing. It doesnt exist. It simply doesnt cut it. And if those gay options were to appear in ME3, the homosexual ppl will be happy, but almost everyone else will be annoyed and disappointed. This would pretty much ruin the whole "epicsavingthegalaxy" experience for me. Knowing that there is this option there that if i click on i can get some butt action for my Sheppie. I dont want to even think about it. 

And it would be a terrible PR move. How would they build up a big sci fi franchise if the protagonist suddenly becomse gay. Accept that the universe of Mass Effect is created like this. This is what we have and in this universe, male Shepard cannot be gay. Im sure that in future projects there could be some other character that may have such options. But not Shepard.

Shepard is an icon! Im sorry but i dont want to imagine this icon bending down with no pants and a horny black dude charging for his behinds.

Ah, stereotypes. I love you so, so much.

Stereotypes exist for a reason.
And he's right, it would be a terrible PR move.

Of course! That must mean that because you enjoy violence, you MUST be some angry little redneck or wangster who think's "he's da shizz dawgg and dun want no ****** in his vidya games uhuh."

"Stereotypes exist for a reason." Of course. That's why the ACLU would be on my ass so quickly if I made a fried chicken joke to a black guy. I'm sure they'd understand all stereotypes MUST be true.

[AlanC9]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

All that proves is that you're a yellow sack of **** without the spine god gave ya...bet you got bullied at school too...

I'm a little confused.... at what point would you have been throwing punches if this had been in a pub?

You're starting to sound like a violent and evil person, but I don't think that's the effect you're going for.

[JamesMoriarty123]

illerianna wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

I really dont understand all this argue. Its not about discrimination. There is no discrimination here. If the concept and story of ME allowed male Shepard to be gay, im sure they would have made that option available. However its really hard for me to imagine a gay hero, who saves the whole damn galaxy. Im sorry if im insulting anyone, but there's no such thing. It doesnt exist. It simply doesnt cut it. And if those gay options were to appear in ME3, the homosexual ppl will be happy, but almost everyone else will be annoyed and disappointed. This would pretty much ruin the whole "epicsavingthegalaxy" experience for me. Knowing that there is this option there that if i click on i can get some butt action for my Sheppie. I dont want to even think about it. 

And it would be a terrible PR move. How would they build up a big sci fi franchise if the protagonist suddenly becomse gay. Accept that the universe of Mass Effect is created like this. This is what we have and in this universe, male Shepard cannot be gay. Im sure that in future projects there could be some other character that may have such options. But not Shepard.

Shepard is an icon! Im sorry but i dont want to imagine this icon bending down with no pants and a horny black dude charging for his behinds.

Ah, stereotypes. I love you so, so much.

Stereotypes exist for a reason.
And he's right, it would be a terrible PR move.

Of course! That must mean that because you enjoy violence, you MUST be some angry little redneck or wangster who think's "he's da shizz dawgg and dun want no ****** in his vidya games uhuh."

"Stereotypes exist for a reason." Of course. That's why the ACLU would be on my ass so quickly if I made a fried chicken joke to a black guy. I'm sure they'd understand all stereotypes MUST be true.

I'm not American, or black. Not all people who enjoy a spot of violence are.
But all gay guys give or take it up the ass, with or without their pants around their ankles.
So stfu?

Modifié par JamesMoriarty123, 07 février 2010 - 03:02 .

[Endurance_117]

illerianna wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

I really dont understand all this argue. Its not about discrimination. There is no discrimination here. If the concept and story of ME allowed male Shepard to be gay, im sure they would have made that option available. However its really hard for me to imagine a gay hero, who saves the whole damn galaxy. Im sorry if im insulting anyone, but there's no such thing. It doesnt exist. It simply doesnt cut it. And if those gay options were to appear in ME3, the homosexual ppl will be happy, but almost everyone else will be annoyed and disappointed. This would pretty much ruin the whole "epicsavingthegalaxy" experience for me. Knowing that there is this option there that if i click on i can get some butt action for my Sheppie. I dont want to even think about it. 

And it would be a terrible PR move. How would they build up a big sci fi franchise if the protagonist suddenly becomse gay. Accept that the universe of Mass Effect is created like this. This is what we have and in this universe, male Shepard cannot be gay. Im sure that in future projects there could be some other character that may have such options. But not Shepard.

Shepard is an icon! Im sorry but i dont want to imagine this icon bending down with no pants and a horny black dude charging for his behinds.

Ah, stereotypes. I love you so, so much.

Stereotypes exist for a reason.
And he's right, it would be a terrible PR move.

That's why the ACLU would be on my ass so quickly if I made a fried chicken joke to a black guy. I'm sure they'd understand all stereotypes MUST be true.

I'm pretty sure that wouldn't happen

[JamesMoriarty123]

Anyway, I couldn't give a toss what you ******'s think. It's down to Bioware in the end, and we gotta play whatever they give us.

I can only hope they don't get suckered in by a few whiny ****s, it would be a shame to see a great game go bad. I'm not alone in this either...

[Kreid]

To be perfectly clear again, because I think this is getting messy, I am not against a gay romance option like in DA:O, I am against making the already established heterosexual male Shepard suddenly interested in guys in ME3