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PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
As if I give a **** what you think man? Go get bent. Oh...my bad.
Yeah, I don't want gay men in the game, I already said that. And chances are good that there won't be. If I'm not worth replying to then ****** off you gutless wonder.

Ha! You made a gay joke. Are you intentionally trying to prove my point for me? I'm having trouble working out if your mind-numbing idiocy is actually your attempt at trolling. If it is, I'll give you a 10/10.

For your sake I hope you grow up one day.


Sorry you were bullied man. I bet it's tough. Intellectual debate is over for me and you. You're a spineless coward, and I'm not. That's all there is to it.

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Some people here have to understand that its not always about what we want. ME didnt just drop off the sky. The games was created, the story was writted, there is a concept. There are AUTHORS. I would love very much for everyone to be happy with the game. But the fact is that there are things that can happen and things that cannot happen. If you play a LotR based RPG, you cant say you want Aragorn to be gay. He cant be. He cant be because he was nevere meant to be. Male Shepard has a purpose in the ME universe. And its not in our hands to decide whats possible and whats not for him. You cant make demands like this. Its for the creators of Mass Effect to decide this. And some people here need to show some respect for the people who brought up this incredible game.


And enlighten me, when has a writer SPECIFICALLY stated:

"Shepard cannot be gay. He is straight."

I've sure never heard that. I thought the whole point of creating a character was to... CREATE a character.


All i can see are people bickering and whining over something thats not in their hands. Its not about whats said, its about whats being build up in this franchise so far.

And by the way, looking at some of the posts in this thread i pretty much doubt that if the authors said that male Shep will never be gay, you still wont stop with your demands. The picture is really ugly here. Some of you people talk like you've been working on this project instead of BioWare. Making demands like someone owes you something. It really doesnt help your point. Its really sad.

Maybe its time some of you to think whats best for Mass Effect. Instead of what you would like. But anyway... BioWare know their job. And they will probably give an official answer at some point. I really hope they wont cave in on all these demands and rants. It would only be sad if they do. And not because male Shep will get his as* annihilated.

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Amikae wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

Some people here have to understand that its not always about what we want. ME didnt just drop off the sky. The games was created, the story was writted, there is a concept. There are AUTHORS. I would love very much for everyone to be happy with the game. But the fact is that there are things that can happen and things that cannot happen. If you play a LotR based RPG, you cant say you want Aragorn to be gay. He cant be. He cant be because he was nevere meant to be. Male Shepard has a purpose in the ME universe. And its not in our hands to decide whats possible and whats not for him. You cant make demands like this. Its for the creators of Mass Effect to decide this. And some people here need to show some respect for the people who brought up this incredible game.


And enlighten me, when has a writer SPECIFICALLY stated:

"Shepard cannot be gay. He is straight."

I've sure never heard that. I thought the whole point of creating a character was to... CREATE a character.


All i can see are people bickering and whining over something thats not in their hands. Its not about whats said, its about whats being build up in this franchise so far.

And by the way, looking at some of the posts in this thread i pretty much doubt that if the authors said that male Shep will never be gay, you still wont stop with your demands. The picture is really ugly here. Some of you people talk like you've been working on this project instead of BioWare. Making demands like someone owes you something. It really doesnt help your point. Its really sad.

Maybe its time some of you to think whats best for Mass Effect. Instead of what you would like. But anyway... BioWare know their job. And they will probably give an official answer at some point. I really hope they wont cave in on all these demands and rants. It would only be sad if they do. And not because male Shep will get his as* annihilated.


I wish they'd give an answer too. Though if they say no I will just leave. They'll be no point in staying. Some might stay but I'm sure there's those like me who will leave dissappointed. Like there's those who if they placed a gay option in the game would leave dissapppointed.

Shep can be gay however. He just won't have anyone to be in love with. :pinched: And heck Female Shep can actually have a relationship with Liara and Kelly. People seem to mix default Shep with canon Shep. There is no canon Shep. Never has been never will be. Default Shep however is what they use for the ads.

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Amikae wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

Some people here have to understand that its not always about what we want. ME didnt just drop off the sky. The games was created, the story was writted, there is a concept. There are AUTHORS. I would love very much for everyone to be happy with the game. But the fact is that there are things that can happen and things that cannot happen. If you play a LotR based RPG, you cant say you want Aragorn to be gay. He cant be. He cant be because he was nevere meant to be. Male Shepard has a purpose in the ME universe. And its not in our hands to decide whats possible and whats not for him. You cant make demands like this. Its for the creators of Mass Effect to decide this. And some people here need to show some respect for the people who brought up this incredible game.


And enlighten me, when has a writer SPECIFICALLY stated:

"Shepard cannot be gay. He is straight."

I've sure never heard that. I thought the whole point of creating a character was to... CREATE a character.


All i can see are people bickering and whining over something thats not in their hands. Its not about whats said, its about whats being build up in this franchise so far.

And by the way, looking at some of the posts in this thread i pretty much doubt that if the authors said that male Shep will never be gay, you still wont stop with your demands. The picture is really ugly here. Some of you people talk like you've been working on this project instead of BioWare. Making demands like someone owes you something. It really doesnt help your point. Its really sad.

Maybe its time some of you to think whats best for Mass Effect. Instead of what you would like. But anyway... BioWare know their job. And they will probably give an official answer at some point. I really hope they wont cave in on all these demands and rants. It would only be sad if they do. And not because male Shep will get his as* annihilated.


Yes, asking for equal representation is so awful. And your biased opinion is also "what is best for the franchise".

Your "I don't like it so it'd hurt sales" isn't really making a point, it's sad.

Either way, they WILL lose a portion of the fanatical gamers, although I do know more gay men that'd be okay with full-on straight than straight men who'd have no problem with some homosexuality.

That said, just because they would tolerate full-on straight doesn't mean they want it.

Just like me, YOUR opinion is biased, and in NO way is "what's best for the franchise," so please, quit with your all-knowing understanding of the human race and media.

EDIT: Because I type too fast. :pinched:

Modifié par illerianna, 07 février 2010 - 03:29 .


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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
As if I give a **** what you think man? Go get bent. Oh...my bad.
Yeah, I don't want gay men in the game, I already said that. And chances are good that there won't be. If I'm not worth replying to then ****** off you gutless wonder.

Ha! You made a gay joke. Are you intentionally trying to prove my point for me? I'm having trouble working out if your mind-numbing idiocy is actually your attempt at trolling. If it is, I'll give you a 10/10.

For your sake I hope you grow up one day.


Sorry you were bullied man. I bet it's tough. Intellectual debate is over for me and you. You're a spineless coward, and I'm not. That's all there is to it.

You're right.

Who am I to argue against a regional boxing champion with a medical science degree and whatever other bull**** you've spouted in this thread. If only they handed out belts for keyboard warriors, thats something I might actually believe.

I've had my laughs, you may go back to your close minded biggotry arguing. Just know that you're wrong, and will continue to be wrong until you get past your petty hang ups, which just  screams insecurity on your part..

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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Amikae wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

Some people here have to understand that its not always about what we want. ME didnt just drop off the sky. The games was created, the story was writted, there is a concept. There are AUTHORS. I would love very much for everyone to be happy with the game. But the fact is that there are things that can happen and things that cannot happen. If you play a LotR based RPG, you cant say you want Aragorn to be gay. He cant be. He cant be because he was nevere meant to be. Male Shepard has a purpose in the ME universe. And its not in our hands to decide whats possible and whats not for him. You cant make demands like this. Its for the creators of Mass Effect to decide this. And some people here need to show some respect for the people who brought up this incredible game.


And enlighten me, when has a writer SPECIFICALLY stated:

"Shepard cannot be gay. He is straight."

I've sure never heard that. I thought the whole point of creating a character was to... CREATE a character.


All i can see are people bickering and whining over something thats not in their hands. Its not about whats said, its about whats being build up in this franchise so far.

And by the way, looking at some of the posts in this thread i pretty much doubt that if the authors said that male Shep will never be gay, you still wont stop with your demands. The picture is really ugly here. Some of you people talk like you've been working on this project instead of BioWare. Making demands like someone owes you something. It really doesnt help your point. Its really sad.

Maybe its time some of you to think whats best for Mass Effect. Instead of what you would like. But anyway... BioWare know their job. And they will probably give an official answer at some point. I really hope they wont cave in on all these demands and rants. It would only be sad if they do. And not because male Shep will get his as* annihilated.


I wish they'd give an answer too. Though if they say no I will just leave. They'll be no point in staying. Some might stay but I'm sure there's those like me who will leave dissappointed. Like there's those who if they placed a gay option in the game would leave dissapppointed.

Shep can be gay however. He just won't have anyone to be in love with. :pinched: And heck Female Shep can actually have a relationship with Liara and Kelly. People seem to mix default Shep with canon Shep. There is no canon Shep. Never has been never will be. Default Shep however is what they use for the ads.



What's it like not living in the real world all the time?

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Well, its no given fact that shepard is not gay.

There's some evidence he could be hetero, however it doesnt seem strong enough to exclude a gay romance option.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to biowares opinion and their ability to explain the lack of M/M romances for shepard.

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ReDSH1FT wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Amikae wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

Some people here have to understand that its not always about what we want. ME didnt just drop off the sky. The games was created, the story was writted, there is a concept. There are AUTHORS. I would love very much for everyone to be happy with the game. But the fact is that there are things that can happen and things that cannot happen. If you play a LotR based RPG, you cant say you want Aragorn to be gay. He cant be. He cant be because he was nevere meant to be. Male Shepard has a purpose in the ME universe. And its not in our hands to decide whats possible and whats not for him. You cant make demands like this. Its for the creators of Mass Effect to decide this. And some people here need to show some respect for the people who brought up this incredible game.


And enlighten me, when has a writer SPECIFICALLY stated:

"Shepard cannot be gay. He is straight."

I've sure never heard that. I thought the whole point of creating a character was to... CREATE a character.


All i can see are people bickering and whining over something thats not in their hands. Its not about whats said, its about whats being build up in this franchise so far.

And by the way, looking at some of the posts in this thread i pretty much doubt that if the authors said that male Shep will never be gay, you still wont stop with your demands. The picture is really ugly here. Some of you people talk like you've been working on this project instead of BioWare. Making demands like someone owes you something. It really doesnt help your point. Its really sad.

Maybe its time some of you to think whats best for Mass Effect. Instead of what you would like. But anyway... BioWare know their job. And they will probably give an official answer at some point. I really hope they wont cave in on all these demands and rants. It would only be sad if they do. And not because male Shep will get his as* annihilated.


I wish they'd give an answer too. Though if they say no I will just leave. They'll be no point in staying. Some might stay but I'm sure there's those like me who will leave dissappointed. Like there's those who if they placed a gay option in the game would leave dissapppointed.

Shep can be gay however. He just won't have anyone to be in love with. :pinched: And heck Female Shep can actually have a relationship with Liara and Kelly. People seem to mix default Shep with canon Shep. There is no canon Shep. Never has been never will be. Default Shep however is what they use for the ads.



What's it like not living in the real world all the time?


...

I'm so tempted to link a .jpg of an implied facepalm.

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PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
As if I give a **** what you think man? Go get bent. Oh...my bad.
Yeah, I don't want gay men in the game, I already said that. And chances are good that there won't be. If I'm not worth replying to then ****** off you gutless wonder.

Ha! You made a gay joke. Are you intentionally trying to prove my point for me? I'm having trouble working out if your mind-numbing idiocy is actually your attempt at trolling. If it is, I'll give you a 10/10.

For your sake I hope you grow up one day.


Sorry you were bullied man. I bet it's tough. Intellectual debate is over for me and you. You're a spineless coward, and I'm not. That's all there is to it.

You're right.

Who am I to argue against a regional boxing champion with a medical science degree and whatever other bull**** you've spouted in this thread. If only they handed out belts for keyboard warriors, thats something I might actually believe.

I've had my laughs, you may go back to your close minded biggotry arguing. Just know that you're wrong, and will continue to be wrong until you get past your petty hang ups, which just  screams insecurity on your part..


Dude, its ok to be ashamed of yourself. Let it all out. You were too weak to fight back against them, I know, I know.
Not all men are created equal, theres stand up guys like me, and tools like you. Just the way it is.

EDIT : Again, because I don't want something you want, I'm closed minded. What a silly man you are.

Modifié par JamesMoriarty123, 07 février 2010 - 03:31 .


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illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

Some people here have to understand that its not always about what we want. ME didnt just drop off the sky. The games was created, the story was writted, there is a concept. There are AUTHORS. I would love very much for everyone to be happy with the game. But the fact is that there are things that can happen and things that cannot happen. If you play a LotR based RPG, you cant say you want Aragorn to be gay. He cant be. He cant be because he was nevere meant to be. Male Shepard has a purpose in the ME universe. And its not in our hands to decide whats possible and whats not for him. You cant make demands like this. Its for the creators of Mass Effect to decide this. And some people here need to show some respect for the people who brought up this incredible game.


And enlighten me, when has a writer SPECIFICALLY stated:

"Shepard cannot be gay. He is straight."

I've sure never heard that. I thought the whole point of creating a character was to... CREATE a character.


All i can see are people bickering and whining over something thats not in their hands. Its not about whats said, its about whats being build up in this franchise so far.

And by the way, looking at some of the posts in this thread i pretty much doubt that if the authors said that male Shep will never be gay, you still wont stop with your demands. The picture is really ugly here. Some of you people talk like you've been working on this project instead of BioWare. Making demands like someone owes you something. It really doesnt help your point. Its really sad.

Maybe its time some of you to think whats best for Mass Effect. Instead of what you would like. But anyway... BioWare know their job. And they will probably give an official answer at some point. I really hope they wont cave in on all these demands and rants. It would only be sad if they do. And not because male Shep will get his as* annihilated.


Yes, asking for equal representation is so awful. And your biased opinion is also "what is best for the franchise".

Your "I don't like it so it'd hurt sales" isn't really making a point, it's sad.

Either way, they WILL lose a portion of the fanatical gamers, although I do know more gay men that'd be okay with full-on straight than straight men who'd have no problem with some homosexuality.

That said, just because they would tolerate full-on straight doesn't mean they want it.

Just like me, YOUR opinion is biased, and in NO way is "what's best for the franchise," so please, quit with your all-knowing understanding of the human race and media.

EDIT: Because I type too fast. :pinched:


You are an enabler of the highest degree.  Don't ruin this game with homosexuality.

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
As if I give a **** what you think man? Go get bent. Oh...my bad.
Yeah, I don't want gay men in the game, I already said that. And chances are good that there won't be. If I'm not worth replying to then ****** off you gutless wonder.

Ha! You made a gay joke. Are you intentionally trying to prove my point for me? I'm having trouble working out if your mind-numbing idiocy is actually your attempt at trolling. If it is, I'll give you a 10/10.

For your sake I hope you grow up one day.


Sorry you were bullied man. I bet it's tough. Intellectual debate is over for me and you. You're a spineless coward, and I'm not. That's all there is to it.

You're right.

Who am I to argue against a regional boxing champion with a medical science degree and whatever other bull**** you've spouted in this thread. If only they handed out belts for keyboard warriors, thats something I might actually believe.

I've had my laughs, you may go back to your close minded biggotry arguing. Just know that you're wrong, and will continue to be wrong until you get past your petty hang ups, which just  screams insecurity on your part..


Dude, its ok to be ashamed of yourself. Let it all out. You were too weak to fight back against them, I know, I know.
Not all men are created equal, theres stand up guys like me, and tools like you. Just the way it is.

Keep going, please.

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Double Post :ph34r:

Modifié par PyroFreak301, 07 février 2010 - 03:33 .


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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
As if I give a **** what you think man? Go get bent. Oh...my bad.
Yeah, I don't want gay men in the game, I already said that. And chances are good that there won't be. If I'm not worth replying to then ****** off you gutless wonder.

Ha! You made a gay joke. Are you intentionally trying to prove my point for me? I'm having trouble working out if your mind-numbing idiocy is actually your attempt at trolling. If it is, I'll give you a 10/10.

For your sake I hope you grow up one day.


Sorry you were bullied man. I bet it's tough. Intellectual debate is over for me and you. You're a spineless coward, and I'm not. That's all there is to it.

You're right.

Who am I to argue against a regional boxing champion with a medical science degree and whatever other bull**** you've spouted in this thread. If only they handed out belts for keyboard warriors, thats something I might actually believe.

I've had my laughs, you may go back to your close minded biggotry arguing. Just know that you're wrong, and will continue to be wrong until you get past your petty hang ups, which just  screams insecurity on your part..


Dude, its ok to be ashamed of yourself. Let it all out. You were too weak to fight back against them, I know, I know.
Not all men are created equal, theres stand up guys like me, and tools like you. Just the way it is.


$10 says he's getting off to this blatant display of internet-tough-guy-ism.

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Double post :ph34r:

Modifié par PyroFreak301, 07 février 2010 - 03:32 .


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PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
As if I give a **** what you think man? Go get bent. Oh...my bad.
Yeah, I don't want gay men in the game, I already said that. And chances are good that there won't be. If I'm not worth replying to then ****** off you gutless wonder.

Ha! You made a gay joke. Are you intentionally trying to prove my point for me? I'm having trouble working out if your mind-numbing idiocy is actually your attempt at trolling. If it is, I'll give you a 10/10.

For your sake I hope you grow up one day.


Sorry you were bullied man. I bet it's tough. Intellectual debate is over for me and you. You're a spineless coward, and I'm not. That's all there is to it.

You're right.

Who am I to argue against a regional boxing champion with a medical science degree and whatever other bull**** you've spouted in this thread. If only they handed out belts for keyboard warriors, thats something I might actually believe.

I've had my laughs, you may go back to your close minded biggotry arguing. Just know that you're wrong, and will continue to be wrong until you get past your petty hang ups, which just  screams insecurity on your part..


Dude, its ok to be ashamed of yourself. Let it all out. You were too weak to fight back against them, I know, I know.
Not all men are created equal, theres stand up guys like me, and tools like you. Just the way it is.

Keep going, please.


Don't want you to go back to cutting yourself, so I'd better stop.

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A ****** teammate would be fine, as long as Shep can't be ****** with him. That's pretty lenient too.

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
As if I give a **** what you think man? Go get bent. Oh...my bad.
Yeah, I don't want gay men in the game, I already said that. And chances are good that there won't be. If I'm not worth replying to then ****** off you gutless wonder.

Ha! You made a gay joke. Are you intentionally trying to prove my point for me? I'm having trouble working out if your mind-numbing idiocy is actually your attempt at trolling. If it is, I'll give you a 10/10.

For your sake I hope you grow up one day.


Sorry you were bullied man. I bet it's tough. Intellectual debate is over for me and you. You're a spineless coward, and I'm not. That's all there is to it.

You're right.

Who am I to argue against a regional boxing champion with a medical science degree and whatever other bull**** you've spouted in this thread. If only they handed out belts for keyboard warriors, thats something I might actually believe.

I've had my laughs, you may go back to your close minded biggotry arguing. Just know that you're wrong, and will continue to be wrong until you get past your petty hang ups, which just  screams insecurity on your part..


Dude, its ok to be ashamed of yourself. Let it all out. You were too weak to fight back against them, I know, I know.
Not all men are created equal, theres stand up guys like me, and tools like you. Just the way it is.

Keep going, please.


Don't want you to go back to cutting yourself, so I'd better stop.


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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
As if I give a **** what you think man? Go get bent. Oh...my bad.
Yeah, I don't want gay men in the game, I already said that. And chances are good that there won't be. If I'm not worth replying to then ****** off you gutless wonder.

Ha! You made a gay joke. Are you intentionally trying to prove my point for me? I'm having trouble working out if your mind-numbing idiocy is actually your attempt at trolling. If it is, I'll give you a 10/10.

For your sake I hope you grow up one day.


Sorry you were bullied man. I bet it's tough. Intellectual debate is over for me and you. You're a spineless coward, and I'm not. That's all there is to it.

You're right.

Who am I to argue against a regional boxing champion with a medical science degree and whatever other bull**** you've spouted in this thread. If only they handed out belts for keyboard warriors, thats something I might actually believe.

I've had my laughs, you may go back to your close minded biggotry arguing. Just know that you're wrong, and will continue to be wrong until you get past your petty hang ups, which just  screams insecurity on your part..


Dude, its ok to be ashamed of yourself. Let it all out. You were too weak to fight back against them, I know, I know.
Not all men are created equal, theres stand up guys like me, and tools like you. Just the way it is.

Keep going, please.


Don't want you to go back to cutting yourself, so I'd better stop.

Dont stop :crying:

I like the attention.

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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Amikae wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

Some people here have to understand that its not always about what we want. ME didnt just drop off the sky. The games was created, the story was writted, there is a concept. There are AUTHORS. I would love very much for everyone to be happy with the game. But the fact is that there are things that can happen and things that cannot happen. If you play a LotR based RPG, you cant say you want Aragorn to be gay. He cant be. He cant be because he was nevere meant to be. Male Shepard has a purpose in the ME universe. And its not in our hands to decide whats possible and whats not for him. You cant make demands like this. Its for the creators of Mass Effect to decide this. And some people here need to show some respect for the people who brought up this incredible game.


And enlighten me, when has a writer SPECIFICALLY stated:

"Shepard cannot be gay. He is straight."

I've sure never heard that. I thought the whole point of creating a character was to... CREATE a character.


All i can see are people bickering and whining over something thats not in their hands. Its not about whats said, its about whats being build up in this franchise so far.

And by the way, looking at some of the posts in this thread i pretty much doubt that if the authors said that male Shep will never be gay, you still wont stop with your demands. The picture is really ugly here. Some of you people talk like you've been working on this project instead of BioWare. Making demands like someone owes you something. It really doesnt help your point. Its really sad.

Maybe its time some of you to think whats best for Mass Effect. Instead of what you would like. But anyway... BioWare know their job. And they will probably give an official answer at some point. I really hope they wont cave in on all these demands and rants. It would only be sad if they do. And not because male Shep will get his as* annihilated.


I wish they'd give an answer too. Though if they say no I will just leave. They'll be no point in staying. Some might stay but I'm sure there's those like me who will leave dissappointed. Like there's those who if they placed a gay option in the game would leave dissapppointed.

Shep can be gay however. He just won't have anyone to be in love with. :pinched: And heck Female Shep can actually have a relationship with Liara and Kelly. People seem to mix default Shep with canon Shep. There is no canon Shep. Never has been never will be. Default Shep however is what they use for the ads.



It's a fictional character in a video game. At the end of the day, what does it even matter? It's sad as hell that you would let something as trivial as romance options (in a video game no less) ruin an otherwise great game experience.

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illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

Some people here have to understand that its not always about what we want. ME didnt just drop off the sky. The games was created, the story was writted, there is a concept. There are AUTHORS. I would love very much for everyone to be happy with the game. But the fact is that there are things that can happen and things that cannot happen. If you play a LotR based RPG, you cant say you want Aragorn to be gay. He cant be. He cant be because he was nevere meant to be. Male Shepard has a purpose in the ME universe. And its not in our hands to decide whats possible and whats not for him. You cant make demands like this. Its for the creators of Mass Effect to decide this. And some people here need to show some respect for the people who brought up this incredible game.


And enlighten me, when has a writer SPECIFICALLY stated:

"Shepard cannot be gay. He is straight."

I've sure never heard that. I thought the whole point of creating a character was to... CREATE a character.


All i can see are people bickering and whining over something thats not in their hands. Its not about whats said, its about whats being build up in this franchise so far.

And by the way, looking at some of the posts in this thread i pretty much doubt that if the authors said that male Shep will never be gay, you still wont stop with your demands. The picture is really ugly here. Some of you people talk like you've been working on this project instead of BioWare. Making demands like someone owes you something. It really doesnt help your point. Its really sad.

Maybe its time some of you to think whats best for Mass Effect. Instead of what you would like. But anyway... BioWare know their job. And they will probably give an official answer at some point. I really hope they wont cave in on all these demands and rants. It would only be sad if they do. And not because male Shep will get his as* annihilated.


Yes, asking for equal representation is so awful. And your biased opinion is also "what is best for the franchise".

Your "I don't like it so it'd hurt sales" isn't really making a point, it's sad.

Either way, they WILL lose a portion of the fanatical gamers, although I do know more gay men that'd be okay with full-on straight than straight men who'd have a problem with some homosexuality.

That said, just because they would tolerate full-on straight doesn't mean they want it.

Just like me, YOUR opinion is biased, and in NO way is "what's best for the franchise," so please, quit with your all-knowing understanding of the human race and media.


I see it really doesnt matter what one says. You repeat one thing. I guess you fail to see that you are the one makind the demands here. Not me. My opinion is that this does not fit the lore and story thats been build up so far for male Shep. And thats to say the least. But i guess you can close your eyes here. Ask me "why does it not?". Dont bother because i will not answe. Why i wont answer? Because i see no point in this conversation. I argue when there is point. In your case, i see none.

And this is me caring about Mass Effect. Not me hating the possiblity of gay options in ME3. I said id still buy and play the game. It would just ruin the experience for me. But thats not important because i dont demand from them to not do it. I dont have that right. But i see you feel you have the right to make such demands. We have nothing more to discuss. Flame on.

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PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
As if I give a **** what you think man? Go get bent. Oh...my bad.
Yeah, I don't want gay men in the game, I already said that. And chances are good that there won't be. If I'm not worth replying to then ****** off you gutless wonder.

Ha! You made a gay joke. Are you intentionally trying to prove my point for me? I'm having trouble working out if your mind-numbing idiocy is actually your attempt at trolling. If it is, I'll give you a 10/10.

For your sake I hope you grow up one day.


Sorry you were bullied man. I bet it's tough. Intellectual debate is over for me and you. You're a spineless coward, and I'm not. That's all there is to it.

You're right.

Who am I to argue against a regional boxing champion with a medical science degree and whatever other bull**** you've spouted in this thread. If only they handed out belts for keyboard warriors, thats something I might actually believe.

I've had my laughs, you may go back to your close minded biggotry arguing. Just know that you're wrong, and will continue to be wrong until you get past your petty hang ups, which just  screams insecurity on your part..


Dude, its ok to be ashamed of yourself. Let it all out. You were too weak to fight back against them, I know, I know.
Not all men are created equal, theres stand up guys like me, and tools like you. Just the way it is.

Keep going, please.


Don't want you to go back to cutting yourself, so I'd better stop.

Dont stop :crying:

I like the attention.


It's only fun when you dance to my tune, like you have been for the last hour. Well done :D

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MassFrost wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Amikae wrote...

illerianna wrote...

Amikae wrote...

Some people here have to understand that its not always about what we want. ME didnt just drop off the sky. The games was created, the story was writted, there is a concept. There are AUTHORS. I would love very much for everyone to be happy with the game. But the fact is that there are things that can happen and things that cannot happen. If you play a LotR based RPG, you cant say you want Aragorn to be gay. He cant be. He cant be because he was nevere meant to be. Male Shepard has a purpose in the ME universe. And its not in our hands to decide whats possible and whats not for him. You cant make demands like this. Its for the creators of Mass Effect to decide this. And some people here need to show some respect for the people who brought up this incredible game.


And enlighten me, when has a writer SPECIFICALLY stated:

"Shepard cannot be gay. He is straight."

I've sure never heard that. I thought the whole point of creating a character was to... CREATE a character.


All i can see are people bickering and whining over something thats not in their hands. Its not about whats said, its about whats being build up in this franchise so far.

And by the way, looking at some of the posts in this thread i pretty much doubt that if the authors said that male Shep will never be gay, you still wont stop with your demands. The picture is really ugly here. Some of you people talk like you've been working on this project instead of BioWare. Making demands like someone owes you something. It really doesnt help your point. Its really sad.

Maybe its time some of you to think whats best for Mass Effect. Instead of what you would like. But anyway... BioWare know their job. And they will probably give an official answer at some point. I really hope they wont cave in on all these demands and rants. It would only be sad if they do. And not because male Shep will get his as* annihilated.


I wish they'd give an answer too. Though if they say no I will just leave. They'll be no point in staying. Some might stay but I'm sure there's those like me who will leave dissappointed. Like there's those who if they placed a gay option in the game would leave dissapppointed.

Shep can be gay however. He just won't have anyone to be in love with. :pinched: And heck Female Shep can actually have a relationship with Liara and Kelly. People seem to mix default Shep with canon Shep. There is no canon Shep. Never has been never will be. Default Shep however is what they use for the ads.



It's a fictional character in a video game. At the end of the day, what does it even matter? It's sad as hell that you would let something as trivial as romance options (in a video game no less) ruin an otherwise great game experience.


QFT.

I will play ME2 (When it gets here...) regardless of whether or not a gay relationship is in-game.

I'm still a member of PFLAG, but it's a game. Jeez.

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Oh and have you guys even seen the ME2 commercials? Shepard is way too boss to be into dudes.

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
As if I give a **** what you think man? Go get bent. Oh...my bad.
Yeah, I don't want gay men in the game, I already said that. And chances are good that there won't be. If I'm not worth replying to then ****** off you gutless wonder.

Ha! You made a gay joke. Are you intentionally trying to prove my point for me? I'm having trouble working out if your mind-numbing idiocy is actually your attempt at trolling. If it is, I'll give you a 10/10.

For your sake I hope you grow up one day.


Sorry you were bullied man. I bet it's tough. Intellectual debate is over for me and you. You're a spineless coward, and I'm not. That's all there is to it.

You're right.

Who am I to argue against a regional boxing champion with a medical science degree and whatever other bull**** you've spouted in this thread. If only they handed out belts for keyboard warriors, thats something I might actually believe.

I've had my laughs, you may go back to your close minded biggotry arguing. Just know that you're wrong, and will continue to be wrong until you get past your petty hang ups, which just  screams insecurity on your part..


Dude, its ok to be ashamed of yourself. Let it all out. You were too weak to fight back against them, I know, I know.
Not all men are created equal, theres stand up guys like me, and tools like you. Just the way it is.

Keep going, please.


Don't want you to go back to cutting yourself, so I'd better stop.

Dont stop :crying:

I like the attention.


It's only fun when you dance to my tune, like you have been for the last hour. Well done :D

Oh dont worry, you've been singing your own tune to yourself. We've just been sitting back and enjoying the show.

Now insult me some more! The cutting doesn't feel as good without hatred.

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ReDSH1FT wrote...

Oh and have you guys even seen the ME2 commercials? Shepard is way too boss to be into dudes.


QFT.