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Some people here have to understand that its not always about what we want. ME didnt just drop off the sky. The games was created, the story was writted, there is a concept. There are AUTHORS. I would love very much for everyone to be happy with the game. But the fact is that there are things that can happen and things that cannot happen. If you play a LotR based RPG, you cant say you want Aragorn to be gay. He cant be. He cant be because he was nevere meant to be. Male Shepard has a purpose in the ME universe. And its not in our hands to decide whats possible and whats not for him. You cant make demands like this. Its for the creators of Mass Effect to decide this. And some people here need to show some respect for the people who brought up this incredible game.


And enlighten me, when has a writer SPECIFICALLY stated:

"Shepard cannot be gay. He is straight."

I've sure never heard that. I thought the whole point of creating a character was to... CREATE a character.


All i can see are people bickering and whining over something thats not in their hands. Its not about whats said, its about whats being build up in this franchise so far.

And by the way, looking at some of the posts in this thread i pretty much doubt that if the authors said that male Shep will never be gay, you still wont stop with your demands. The picture is really ugly here. Some of you people talk like you've been working on this project instead of BioWare. Making demands like someone owes you something. It really doesnt help your point. Its really sad.

Maybe its time some of you to think whats best for Mass Effect. Instead of what you would like. But anyway... BioWare know their job. And they will probably give an official answer at some point. I really hope they wont cave in on all these demands and rants. It would only be sad if they do. And not because male Shep will get his as* annihilated.


I wish they'd give an answer too. Though if they say no I will just leave. They'll be no point in staying. Some might stay but I'm sure there's those like me who will leave dissappointed. Like there's those who if they placed a gay option in the game would leave dissapppointed.

Shep can be gay however. He just won't have anyone to be in love with. :pinched: And heck Female Shep can actually have a relationship with Liara and Kelly. People seem to mix default Shep with canon Shep. There is no canon Shep. Never has been never will be. Default Shep however is what they use for the ads.



It's a fictional character in a video game. At the end of the day, what does it even matter? It's sad as hell that you would let something as trivial as romance options (in a video game no less) ruin an otherwise great game experience.


QFT.

I will play ME2 (When it gets here...) regardless of whether or not a gay relationship is in-game.

I'm still a member of PFLAG, but it's a game. Jeez.


Bah. I meant leave the forums. I'd buy the game used. :bandit:

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W/e illeriana, nobody cares.

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True, but what of it? The fact that the developers didn't put in any potential gay male partners doesn't say anything at all about the version of Shepard that I'm playing. All it says is that he hasn't met anyone yet.

If it was impossible to play a Shepard that wasn't interested in women, you'd have a point -- which I guess is why you tried to claim that upthread. Is it? I'll have to take another look at that Samara convo.

What I am saying is that the fact that homosexual romance was scrapped is an indication of where the mind of the developers is in, they wanted to keep male Shepard only able to romance women, yet they have no problem having female Shepard being bisexual, for a moment  try stop rationalizing why you couldn't have a M/M romance in ME1 or ME2 and look at the facts from an outside perspective, it is clear Bioware wants male Shepard heterosexual, maybe for marketing, maybe for story reasons but it is pretty much undeniable at this point, they did F/F with femShep in ME1 and ME2 if male was ever meant to have a same sex relationship it was forgotten long time ago and now is not a good time to try implement it again.

That proves that they felt the need to make Kaidan straight rather than bi. Given the way certain immature fans have reacted to some Bio characters in the past, it's understandable.

Bio developers have always been quite clear in the past that they have nothing against players making their characters gay, but that they don't necessarily feel required to make any gay NPCs for them to be with. I take the devs at their word... but it is conceivable that Shepard is an exception.

I am just trying to be neutral here but, cut me some slack Shepard can or cannot be gay ok? since there is not any kind of external monologue for us to choose or know, but he has teh possibility of sleep with lots of women and there are no signs of M/M romance in 2 out of three games of the trilogy, I'm just adhering to the most LOGICAL conclusion.

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PyroFreak301 wrote...

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As if I give a **** what you think man? Go get bent. Oh...my bad.
Yeah, I don't want gay men in the game, I already said that. And chances are good that there won't be. If I'm not worth replying to then ****** off you gutless wonder.

Ha! You made a gay joke. Are you intentionally trying to prove my point for me? I'm having trouble working out if your mind-numbing idiocy is actually your attempt at trolling. If it is, I'll give you a 10/10.

For your sake I hope you grow up one day.


Sorry you were bullied man. I bet it's tough. Intellectual debate is over for me and you. You're a spineless coward, and I'm not. That's all there is to it.

You're right.

Who am I to argue against a regional boxing champion with a medical science degree and whatever other bull**** you've spouted in this thread. If only they handed out belts for keyboard warriors, thats something I might actually believe.

I've had my laughs, you may go back to your close minded biggotry arguing. Just know that you're wrong, and will continue to be wrong until you get past your petty hang ups, which just  screams insecurity on your part..


Dude, its ok to be ashamed of yourself. Let it all out. You were too weak to fight back against them, I know, I know.
Not all men are created equal, theres stand up guys like me, and tools like you. Just the way it is.

Keep going, please.


Don't want you to go back to cutting yourself, so I'd better stop.

Dont stop :crying:

I like the attention.


It's only fun when you dance to my tune, like you have been for the last hour. Well done :D

Oh dont worry, you've been singing your own tune to yourself. We've just been sitting back and enjoying the show.

Now insult me some more! The cutting doesn't feel as good without hatred.


See how I got you in line? Nice :D

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Amikae wrote...
All i can see are people bickering and whining over something thats not in their hands. Its not about whats said, its about whats being build up in this franchise so far.

And by the way, looking at some of the posts in this thread i pretty much doubt that if the authors said that male Shep will never be gay, you still wont stop with your demands. The picture is really ugly here. Some of you people talk like you've been working on this project instead of BioWare. Making demands like someone owes you something. It really doesnt help your point. Its really sad.

Maybe its time some of you to think whats best for Mass Effect. Instead of what you would like. But anyway... BioWare know their job. And they will probably give an official answer at some point. I really hope they wont cave in on all these demands and rants. It would only be sad if they do. And not because male Shep will get his as* annihilated.

Personally I think "choice" is in the interest of the game. I'd also be keen if certain elements of the story weren't restricted due to a binary choice at the beginning. Not that I'm comfortable enough with my own identity to go chatting up burly men, but I know that most of the female cast felt awfully thin compared to the non-romantic ones as their dialogue wasn't impaired by a lack of romance. I suppose I could play through again, but it's not quite the same.

I think going "all out" or "all in" romantically, so to speak, would be the best option all round.

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W/e illeriana, nobody cares.


Thank you for that enlightenment. /bow

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See how I got you in line? Nice :D

Nice job. You've defnitely come out of this looking better and generally more respectable.

Dude, I think I've even got a crush on you. :wub:

Modifié par PyroFreak301, 07 février 2010 - 03:42 .


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Methinks that now that they can't come up with real arguments, they resort to bashing and trolling.



So is this really all the ****** community has to offer? You arguments are as weak as your willpower.

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[quote]PyroFreak301 wrote...

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See how I got you in line? Nice :D

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Nice job. You've defnitely come out of this looking better and generally more respectable.

Dude, I think I've even got a crush on you. :wub:
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Note the gay man's only response to being bested......fawning like gay ass farm animal.

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ReDSH1FT wrote...

Methinks that now that they can't come up with real arguments, they resort to bashing and trolling.

So is this really all the ****** community has to offer? You arguments are as weak as your willpower.



Oooh, such tempting flamebait... But I'll pass.

Good try though, good try.

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Would it be okay if you had avoided all romantic envolvement up to that point, and "suddenly" took an interest in guys? Or had always been into guys, but the pressure of living in a morally backwards society made him overcompensate with a series of brief and meaningless female sexual relationships, but having met a man he deeply cares for is finally forced to face his sexually identity?

Because I bet neither of those ever happen.

The problem is that no one just turns homosexual suddenly, and there are absolutely no indication  whatsoever not even one sentence that suggest flirt between males, if you get a male LI which is a new character, Shepard will only stick to him? people will want to romance Jacob/Kaidan/Garrus/Thane and will start a new outrage, and the sole notion of Shepard suddenly turning flirty with those characters is a total violation of the established canon, stories just don't work like that

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rofl

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They have 223 members of their little group Red, it's like, big ****ing deal. The majority of the world are straight. Theres been petitions for games with 200K sigs, and they just got rejected. So I'm fairly sure we're safe from Bioware breaking down to these 200 or so misguided forumites.

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illerianna wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Methinks that now that they can't come up with real arguments, they resort to bashing and trolling.

So is this really all the ****** community has to offer? You arguments are as weak as your willpower.



Oooh, such tempting flamebait... But I'll pass.

Good try though, good try.


Flamebait?  Sorry, but that's straight calling you out kid.

If you got anything to counter my point, then do so.

Otherwise I'm gonna assume that we won this little debate, seeing as how you are cowering behind false confidence and jokes.

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Ah well. Since you've obliviously unmasked me as a "****** loving one-trick-pony", I'll be taking my leave now.



Have fun with the reports! You guys have been wonderful. This really brightened up my day.

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

They have 223 members of their little group Red, it's like, big ****ing deal. The majority of the world are straight. Theres been petitions for games with 200K sigs, and they just got rejected. So I'm fairly sure we're safe from Bioware breaking down to these 200 or so misguided forumites.


True, I hope that BioWare does what's best by their own standards.  EA doesn't seem like the kind of producer that would peddle gay simulators anyway.  HURRAY FOR EA!!!

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illerianna wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Methinks that now that they can't come up with real arguments, they resort to bashing and trolling.

So is this really all the ****** community has to offer? You arguments are as weak as your willpower.



Oooh, such tempting flamebait... But I'll pass.

Good try though, good try.

I wish I had your willpower not to troll them. They're just too juicy and manly to resist.

Note the gay man's only response to being bested......fawning like gay ass farm animal.

I just have to give in. You're clearly the alpha male here. :kissing:

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illerianna wrote...

Ah well. Since you've obliviously unmasked me as a "****** loving one-trick-pony", I'll be taking my leave now.

Have fun with the reports! You guys have been wonderful. This really brightened up my day.


Typical ****** act.  Report the non believers!

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ReDSH1FT wrote...

illerianna wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Methinks that now that they can't come up with real arguments, they resort to bashing and trolling.

So is this really all the ****** community has to offer? You arguments are as weak as your willpower.



Oooh, such tempting flamebait... But I'll pass.

Good try though, good try.


Flamebait?  Sorry, but that's straight calling you out kid.

If you got anything to counter my point, then do so.

Otherwise I'm gonna assume that we won this little debate, seeing as how you are cowering behind false confidence and jokes.


Alright, sure, my last post.

Just because you dislike something does not make it fact. I have yet to see an argument from you other than "I don't like dem homos so dey best not be in my game".

Have fun with it. Remember, even though you won, you're still a retard. <3

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Yeah, I hardly see EA rolling over for something this trivial. For once I can actually be glad EA exists! Double HURRAH!

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PyroFreak301 wrote...

illerianna wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Methinks that now that they can't come up with real arguments, they resort to bashing and trolling.

So is this really all the ****** community has to offer? You arguments are as weak as your willpower.



Oooh, such tempting flamebait... But I'll pass.

Good try though, good try.

I wish I had your willpower not to troll them. They're just too juicy and manly to resist.

Note the gay man's only response to being bested......fawning like gay ass farm animal.

I just have to give in. You're clearly the alpha male here. :kissing:


Thats right, and alpha males dont **** fairies. So ****** off :P

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LOL @ the guys fighting over gay stuff.... no offence. Ultimately what it boils down to is, we can only give suggestions on these forums. Its up to the developers/writers to decide if shepard will be gay or he won't. Fighting over this issue like idiots won't change this fact. So peace out, keep your fingers crossed and we'll see who gets lucky.

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

illerianna wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Methinks that now that they can't come up with real arguments, they resort to bashing and trolling.

So is this really all the ****** community has to offer? You arguments are as weak as your willpower.



Oooh, such tempting flamebait... But I'll pass.

Good try though, good try.

I wish I had your willpower not to troll them. They're just too juicy and manly to resist.

Note the gay man's only response to being bested......fawning like gay ass farm animal.

I just have to give in. You're clearly the alpha male here. :kissing:


Thats right, and alpha males dont **** fairies. So ****** off :P

You're insecurities around gay guys can only point to one thing.

When you're ready to step out the closet, I'll be there, my sweet prince.<3

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Quit turning this forum into your anti-gay soapbox. You dont want gay shepard, dont make one. Just because he might have the chance to be gay, doesnt mean you have to get 1912 on the idea and not play the game. Quit being a homophobic moron and play the game. Make whoever you want Shepard to be.

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GrimmjawJin wrote...

LOL @ the guys fighting over gay stuff.... no offence. Ultimately what it boils down to is, we can only give suggestions on these forums. Its up to the developers/writers to decide if shepard will be gay or he won't. Fighting over this issue like idiots won't change this fact. So peace out, keep your fingers crossed and we'll see who gets lucky.


Just saw this before I tabbed back in to DA...

Mean offense. Really. I love laughing at myself. I'm a complete retard, and I sure know it. I'm well aware this is pointless, but it's still mildly entertaining.

This thread is like crack. I'm addicted to the stupidity.