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Anyone even bothering to reply to the asinine assertions of the OP is an utter masochist in my opinion.


or bored while installing ME2. oooh its done now!


err wait...Kaiden yells and wlaks away from me in it? Image IPB


Yeah he does. He sends you an email later to make up for it but still. Reunion was pretty much fail even if I got a nice hug out of it and a love confession. <_<

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Gorn Kregore wrote...

An homos wonder why people mock them. I'm alright with the homos which don't take things like this seriously but the ones which do....hell even the black people who take things similar to this seriously sicken me.


Have you counted your chromosomes lately?

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

Red, have you even stopped to think of what a ridiculous thread this even is? Of course they're not going to make male Shepards gay all of the sudden.

This thread is not ridiculous, just because a major part of the forums support gay Shepard options doesn't mean the people that don't see it making sense in continuity are not entitled to their opinion.
I am not against gay characters, or bisexual characters, or anything really BUT male commander Shepard has been establised already as heterosexual, and suddenly turning him homosexual would be FORCED an out of character.
People here are hypocrites, they bash ReD because they deem him intolerant but refuse to answer decently to his very legit argument WHILE demanding him to answer theirs.

Modifié par Creid-X, 06 février 2010 - 10:31 .


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Creid-X wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Red, have you even stopped to think of what a ridiculous thread this even is? Of course they're not going to make male Shepards gay all of the sudden.

This thread is not ridiculous, just because a major part of the forums support gay Shepard options doesn't mean the people that don't see it making sense in continuity are not entitled to their opinion.
I am not against gay characters, or bisexual characters, or anything really BUT male Shepards has been establised already as heterosexual, and suddenly turning him homosexual would be FORCED an out of character.
People here are hypocrites, they bash ReD because they deem him intolerant but refuse to answer decently to his very legit argument WHILE demanding him to answer theirs.


How does anything that you wrote in reply to my post relate to my post? :blink:

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Creid-X wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Red, have you even stopped to think of what a ridiculous thread this even is? Of course they're not going to make male Shepards gay all of the sudden.

This thread is not ridiculous, just because a major part of the forums support gay Shepard options doesn't mean the people that don't see it making sense in continuity are not entitled to their opinion.
I am not against gay characters, or bisexual characters, or anything really


this

Modifié par Endurance_117, 06 février 2010 - 10:32 .


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Bryy_Miller wrote... You just called everyone who posted in this thread gay. Good job, Hoss.


Defensive much?

I was expanding on the ridiculous premis that ****** was short for homosexual.

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I don't like to post on these types of threads but here goes. 

So let's say I play ME1 and ME2 with a male Shepherd, with the approach that I'm gay.  Throughout both games, I do not engage in romances with any of the female characters.  I don't even flirt with them.  I ignore the Consort in ME1, even though she's the best lay in the galaxy (apparently).  Still, because none of the male squadmates in the first two games are gay, they don't try to flirt with me, and I don't flirt with them (since my Shep's respectful of other people's personal sexual preferences).  This means that as far as my Shep is concerned, he's a gay male, but there haven't been any other gay males aboard ship, so there hasn't been any opportunity for romance in the first two games.

Now, let's say Bioware decides to introduce a homosexual male character in the last installment of the trilogy.  How is it now out of character for my Shephard to flirt/have a relationship with this character?  The way I've played him from the start is as a chaste gay man with no viable partners, not as a heterosexual man.

I do think it would be out of character for any of the existing male squadmates to all of the sudden start acting romantically interested in a male Shep, but because Shep's character is based so much on an individual player's choices, I can't see how it would ruin his character for Bioware to introduce a possible gay male love interest in ME3.  People talk about ruining Shepherd's character, but what character?  He can be completely different from one person to the next.  He doesn't exist really outside of the person controlling him (nor does he really exist at all, but that's getting philosophical...).

BTW, I'm a heterosexual female, but I do hope that Bioware gives the gay gamers an option of a LI  in ME3.  Everyone else has got their chance for luv, with the exception of the Volus/Elcor/Hanar/AI fetishists (but fingers, crossed for the last game, eh guys?)


DUDE.  READ PREVIOUS POSTS.

I don't care how you played your Shepard, EVERYONE'S Shepard has a few things in common.  In the romance department, Shepard has the options to be a space pimp that chases skirts around galaxy, or be a mission first kinda guy that is thinking about romance with these girls, but doesn't.  Those are the dialogue options.

Those are your choices.  Those are Shepards choices.  That's what's going on in his head.  He doesn't have any tendency to flirt with Kaidan, Jacob, Jeff, Presley, or any other guy for that matter.  He's not a ******, he never will be.

Your fantastical assertions that he didn't romance the girls because he's into dudes are completely in your head.  In reality, where things really happen, he isn't a ******.  He doesn't have the options to flirt with guys for a reason.

Is this really that hard to understand?

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Creid-X wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Red, have you even stopped to think of what a ridiculous thread this even is? Of course they're not going to make male Shepards gay all of the sudden.

This thread is not ridiculous, just because a major part of the forums support gay Shepard options doesn't mean the people that don't see it making sense in continuity are not entitled to their opinion.
I am not against gay characters, or bisexual characters, or anything really BUT male Shepards has been establised already as heterosexual, and suddenly turning him homosexual would be FORCED an out of character.
People here are hypocrites, they bash ReD because they deem him intolerant but refuse to answer decently to his very legit argument WHILE demanding him to answer theirs.


But his argument hinges on the fact that everyone romanced someone of the opposite sex in ME that was not the case. Some Sheps were single or had modded gay relationships so what about them? They don't exist? <_<

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Shepard didn`t make any efforts to love Tali in the first one, now he/she does. OH MY GODDES IT`S SO TOTALLY OUT OF THE BLUE!


it actually makes sense. a quarien would not normally have a relationship with a human. only after your entire experience in me1 and a big chunk of me2 does a relationship develop between shepherd and tali. 

in me1 you can romance ashley and liara. having a relationship with a human would make sense, and asari are known for pursuing relationships with other species.


You generelize the quarians, so no real argument. As I said, in the first one nay, in the second one yay and so it`s no problem to do the same the same sex topic.

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Creid-X wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Red, have you even stopped to think of what a ridiculous thread this even is? Of course they're not going to make male Shepards gay all of the sudden.

This thread is not ridiculous, just because a major part of the forums support gay Shepard options doesn't mean the people that don't see it making sense in continuity are not entitled to their opinion.
I am not against gay characters, or bisexual characters, or anything really BUT male commander Shepard has been establised already as heterosexual, and suddenly turning him homosexual would be FORCED an out of character.
People here are hypocrites, they bash ReD because they deem him intolerant but refuse to answer decently to his very legit argument WHILE demanding him to answer theirs.


Thank you.  Can others please pull back their blinders for a second and read this thoughtfully?

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ewaldorph wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote... You just called everyone who posted in this thread gay. Good job, Hoss.


Defensive much?

I was expanding on the ridiculous premis that ****** was short for homosexual.


I was not responding to you.

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I don't see how having more options on how the story evolves and plays out. Unless of course you are offended that Bioware does provide those options and you want a light linear story with lots of shooting. Sadly, you will be disappointed in Bioware if you want and expect this of their games.

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Creid-X wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Red, have you even stopped to think of what a ridiculous thread this even is? Of course they're not going to make male Shepards gay all of the sudden.

This thread is not ridiculous, just because a major part of the forums support gay Shepard options doesn't mean the people that don't see it making sense in continuity are not entitled to their opinion.
I am not against gay characters, or bisexual characters, or anything really BUT male Shepards has been establised already as heterosexual, and suddenly turning him homosexual would be FORCED an out of character.
People here are hypocrites, they bash ReD because they deem him intolerant but refuse to answer decently to his very legit argument WHILE demanding him to answer theirs.


He is intolerant. lol . Apparently gays can't protest <_< , I am mostly indifferent to having homosexual romance options in the game. But I see no problem with it.

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Creid-X wrote...
.....BUT male commander Shepard has been establised already as heterosexual, and suddenly turning him homosexual would be FORCED an out of character.


You guys are delusional... Sheps sexual orientation has not been established in any way, shape, or form...

Where are you getting this false notion (other than from your own twisted world view)?

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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Creid-X wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Red, have you even stopped to think of what a ridiculous thread this even is? Of course they're not going to make male Shepards gay all of the sudden.

This thread is not ridiculous, just because a major part of the forums support gay Shepard options doesn't mean the people that don't see it making sense in continuity are not entitled to their opinion.
I am not against gay characters, or bisexual characters, or anything really BUT male Shepards has been establised already as heterosexual, and suddenly turning him homosexual would be FORCED an out of character.
People here are hypocrites, they bash ReD because they deem him intolerant but refuse to answer decently to his very legit argument WHILE demanding him to answer theirs.


But his argument hinges on the fact that everyone romanced someone of the opposite sex in ME that was not the case. Some Sheps were single or had modded gay relationships so what about them? They don't exist? <_<


No, my argument doesn't hinge on that, look at the posts I made.  Read carefully.  

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Endurance_117 wrote...

Creid-X wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Red, have you even stopped to think of what a ridiculous thread this even is? Of course they're not going to make male Shepards gay all of the sudden.

This thread is not ridiculous, just because a major part of the forums support gay Shepard options doesn't mean the people that don't see it making sense in continuity are not entitled to their opinion.
I am not against gay characters, or bisexual characters, or anything really


this


I was saying how this thread was pointless because it was based on one guys baseless assumption. I was not taking sides. How are people reading that?

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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

err wait...Kaiden yells and wlaks away from me in it? Image IPB


Yeah he does. He sends you an email later to make up for it but still. Reunion was pretty much fail even if I got a nice hug out of it and a love confession. <_<


:o Oh, Snap!

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Orogenic wrote...

Creid-X wrote...
.....BUT male commander Shepard has been establised already as heterosexual, and suddenly turning him homosexual would be FORCED an out of character.


You guys are delusional... Sheps sexual orientation has not been established in any way, shape, or form...

Where are you getting this false notion (other than from your own twisted world view)?


The only delusional ones are the homos posting on here.  He's straight, and if you wanna ignore the obvious narrative evidence, then that's on you.  Go wait on the bus while logical men are talking.

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Marta Rio wrote...

I don't like to post on these types of threads but here goes. 

So let's say I play ME1 and ME2 with a male Shepherd, with the approach that I'm gay.  Throughout both games, I do not engage in romances with any of the female characters.  I don't even flirt with them.  I ignore the Consort in ME1, even though she's the best lay in the galaxy (apparently).  Still, because none of the male squadmates in the first two games are gay, they don't try to flirt with me, and I don't flirt with them (since my Shep's respectful of other people's personal sexual preferences).  This means that as far as my Shep is concerned, he's a gay male, but there haven't been any other gay males aboard ship, so there hasn't been any opportunity for romance in the first two games.

Now, let's say Bioware decides to introduce a homosexual male character in the last installment of the trilogy.  How is it now out of character for my Shephard to flirt/have a relationship with this character?  The way I've played him from the start is as a chaste gay man with no viable partners, not as a heterosexual man.

I do think it would be out of character for any of the existing male squadmates to all of the sudden start acting romantically interested in a male Shep, but because Shep's character is based so much on an individual player's choices, I can't see how it would ruin his character for Bioware to introduce a possible gay male love interest in ME3.  People talk about ruining Shepherd's character, but what character?  He can be completely different from one person to the next.  He doesn't exist outside of the person controlling him (nor does he really exist at all, but that's getting philosophical...).

BTW, I'm a heterosexual female, but I do hope that Bioware gives the gay gamers an option of a LI  in ME3.  Everyone else has got their chance for luv, with the exception of the Volus/Elcor/Hanar/AI fetishists (but fingers, crossed for the last game, eh guys?)


Read this OP.

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Red, I am finding it harder and harder to believe that you are not trying to ****** people off and just asking questions.

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 06 février 2010 - 10:36 .


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ReDSH1FT wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Creid-X wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Red, have you even stopped to think of what a ridiculous thread this even is? Of course they're not going to make male Shepards gay all of the sudden.

This thread is not ridiculous, just because a major part of the forums support gay Shepard options doesn't mean the people that don't see it making sense in continuity are not entitled to their opinion.
I am not against gay characters, or bisexual characters, or anything really BUT male Shepards has been establised already as heterosexual, and suddenly turning him homosexual would be FORCED an out of character.
People here are hypocrites, they bash ReD because they deem him intolerant but refuse to answer decently to his very legit argument WHILE demanding him to answer theirs.


But his argument hinges on the fact that everyone romanced someone of the opposite sex in ME that was not the case. Some Sheps were single or had modded gay relationships so what about them? They don't exist? <_<


No, my argument doesn't hinge on that, look at the posts I made.  Read carefully.  


No your argument hinges on the fact that because the only people that want to have sex with Shep are of the opposite sex Shep is automatically straight. That doesn't make Shep anymore straight then if you were stranded on a desert with gay men and the only way you were having a relationship was with one of them would make you gay. <_<

Modifié par Ryuuichi009, 06 février 2010 - 10:38 .


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Well, as much as I'd like to continue on here with Mr. Troll(s), I actually have better things to do today. It's been fun.

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ReDSH1FT wrote...

Orogenic wrote...

Creid-X wrote...
.....BUT male commander Shepard has been establised already as heterosexual, and suddenly turning him homosexual would be FORCED an out of character.


You guys are delusional... Sheps sexual orientation has not been established in any way, shape, or form...

Where are you getting this false notion (other than from your own twisted world view)?


The only delusional ones are the homos posting on here.  He's straight, and if you wanna ignore the obvious narrative evidence, then that's on you.  Go wait on the bus while logical men are talking.


There is zero "narrative evidence" of Sheps sexual orientation.  You win the "obtuse award" for today on the forum.  I challenge you to support your claim.

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People are mistaking characters. Shepard can be gay but that doesn't mean Jacob, Garrus, and Mordin are

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Orogenic wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Orogenic wrote...

Creid-X wrote...
.....BUT male commander Shepard has been establised already as heterosexual, and suddenly turning him homosexual would be FORCED an out of character.


You guys are delusional... Sheps sexual orientation has not been established in any way, shape, or form...

Where are you getting this false notion (other than from your own twisted world view)?


The only delusional ones are the homos posting on here.  He's straight, and if you wanna ignore the obvious narrative evidence, then that's on you.  Go wait on the bus while logical men are talking.


There is zero "narrative evidence" of Sheps sexual orientation.  You win the "obtuse award" for today on the forum.  I challenge you to support your claim.


I challenge you to play this game we're arguing about.