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Legbiter

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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I think the humans have a lot less significance in the galaxy than a lot of people here are attributing to them.


This.

We're new and interesting but the Alliance would get it's ass handed to it by any of the three council races in a straight up fight. The Salarians would know all our plans in advance and act accordingly, through the STG, the asari would cripple our war effort with their elite commandoes and the turians would just get pissed off and curbstomp us with their massive fleets.

But yeah, humanity could probably beat up the elcor. Hanar too maybe. The volus would just crash humanity's banking system by shorting it or something or launch a covert operation to get most of humanity to take out a second mortage we couldn't afford.

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Zayle79

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Legbiter wrote...

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I think the humans have a lot less significance in the galaxy than a lot of people here are attributing to them.


This.

We're new and interesting but the Alliance would get it's ass handed to it by any of the three council races in a straight up fight. The Salarians would know all our plans in advance and act accordingly, through the STG, the asari would cripple our war effort with their elite commandoes and the turians would just get pissed off and curbstomp us with their massive fleets.

But yeah, humanity could probably beat up the elcor. Hanar too maybe. The volus would just crash humanity's banking system by shorting it or something or launch a covert operation to get most of humanity to take out a second mortage we couldn't afford.


Absolutely.

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While I understand the idea that one's technology can advance that much in just 30 years, I mean look what happened in real life, what I think is totally unrealistic and it bugs me every time I see it is how much humanity has expanded in physical terms. Sure, you can plant a flag on a thousand worlds, but the numbers don't add up. Humans are like a quarter of the Citadel population, over 2 mill. Colonies founded just a few years ago have millions of individuals, and our colonies number in the dozens if not actual hundreds by ME3. Bekenstein, founded 25 years before ME1, has 6 million individuals and, in between huge development, they still have a vibrant social life full of snobs and a leisure class. No matter how advanced your technology is, you're still limited by the necessity of having to move those people to their new homes, and actually building them. How many hundreds of thousands of ships making tens of sorties a year do you need to have to sustain that kind of exodus and still be a normal functioning race, with trade, tourism, military patrols, pleasure boats, temporary transportation to and from places. It just doesn't ring true to me. You can argue that a number of Chinese and African cities have grown to millions of inhabitants in just a few short years, but, in those cases, peasants from rural areas moved a couple of hundred kilometers or less to the city, and they could do it with the lowest tech imaginable. Here, there is the high barrier of multiple systems traversal, sometimes with FTL requirements, then native infrastructure development, and then integration within the larger economy. 30 odd years for that is too little.

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Sorry to revive an old thread, but I thought it was worth mentioning the interesting fact that humans actually have very low genetic diversity relative to other species on Earth, because of a genetic bottleneck that occured recently (in terms of evolution) in the history of our species that reduced us to no more than a thousand. So, contrary to what we find in ME, if we were to encounter aliens they would probably be a lot more genetically diverse than we are...

Additionally, my thoughts on the topic of the thread:
The fact that humans appear so successful in the ME universe is definitely a result of the series succumbing to the "humans are special" and "planet of hats" (aka aliens-with-no-diversity) tropes.
Still, I will try to defend the game. It appears that humans benefited greatly from uncovering a huge cache of Prothean technology, which may explain their comparable technology to other races (since other races apparently still hadn't fully reverse engineered Prothean tech, for whatever reason). Additionally, humans are often scheming and reckless so that they undertake high risk high reward research (like AI) and accept high costs as the price of getting ahead (as with Cerberus activities).
The fact that aliens don't vastly outnumber humans in ME isn't inconceivable; if alien population dynamics would be anything like ours, then population growth would greatly slow, stall, or even reverse as society advances.

Modifié par marmotman, 26 novembre 2013 - 09:31 .


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NekkidNones

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It's because the asari have our backs. We're the only other ones that have 5 fingers, a bellybutton and knees that bend the 'correct' way. This made economic trade in textiles, body armor, bicycles and winter gloves; cost efficient and highly effective for both humans and asari. Thus making us BFFs for life ;)

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marmotman - THANK YOU!! I thought I was the only one bothered by that. We small furry animals know our biology, it seems!

I had to head canon a whole bunch of genetic engineering that took place between now and ME times to prop up this one.