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[CroGamer002]

TIM is bad guy but no villain of ME2 plot.

[Costin_Razvan]

Yes I agree completely but trying to abduct an innocent child, and probably murder two people is hardly considered justified. And a blown up ship still leaves evidence. Evidence that probably would have lead to the quarians believing all of humanity responsible, potentially causing a war neither side could afford.

And since when the Quarians would know that humanity was responsible huh? They have no proof of them, in fact the person they spoke to when they came with what ship was a Quarian exile.

No i think that would be a bad strategic decision, but a worse decision, is to risk a war with a species that has the largest fleet in the known galaxy!

The biggest pile of useless junk you mean. 10.000 ships filled to the brim with over 17 million people is hardly a combat force. The Quarians are in no position to wage war.

No i think that would be a bad strategic decision, but a worse decision, is to risk a war with a species that has the largest fleet in the known galaxy!

Glad you at least see it's a good strategic decision.

A war against what? Alliance vs the Quarians? Cerberus is branded as a terrorist organization and as such starting a war with the Alliance because of what happened there ( with no proof of Alliance involvement, even far less so with the Ship destroyed ) would mean the rest of the Council would take part as well..Humans have the possibility to create more ships, replace their losses while the Quarians don't.

It would be incredibly stupid for the Quarians to start a war over the loss of a single ship.

But back on-topic. You compare what Cerberus did there with what Hitler did to jews in the Holocaust, that analogy is a pile of ****.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 18 juillet 2010 - 09:25 .

[wulf3n]

Costin_Razvan wrote...
And since when the Quarians would know that humanity was responsible huh? They have no proof of them, in fact the person they spoke to when they came with what ship was a Quarian exile.

Unless the explosion destroyed the entire ship and everything in it down to an atomic level, there would be evidence. Whether there would be enough to implicate humanity is unknown, but its stil a risk.

Costin_Razvan wrote...
The biggest pile of useless junk you mean. 10.000 ships filled to the brim with over 17 million people is hardly a combat force. The Quarians are in no position to wage war.

Never underestimate the danger of numerous weak opponents. humanity isn't in the best position either, considering the damage to the 5th fleet from Sovereign, the new responsibilities of being a council race, and having to defend numerous human colonies.

I reckon guerrilla style attacks from the migrant fleet would be very dangerous. And nearly impossible to perform a counter attack considering the quarians have no Static location to be attacked, and could jump to FTL at the first sign of an alliance attack.

Costin_Razvan wrote...
Glad you at least see it's a good strategic decision.

A war against what? Alliance vs the Quarians? Cerberus is branded as a terrorist organization and as such starting a war with the Alliance because of what happened there ( with no proof of Alliance involvement, even far less so with the Ship destroyed ) would mean the rest of the Council would take part as well..Humans have the possibility to create more ships, replace their losses while the Quarians don't.

It would be incredibly stupid for the Quarians to start a war over the loss of a single ship.

The council is in even worse condition than the alliance considering the majority of there fleets were crushed during the battle with Sovereign. Just because the Alliance brands Cerberus as terrorists doesn't mean the other races have to consider them separate, the quarians might have just considered Cerberus a military branch, considering they were not too long ago.

Costin_Razvan wrote...
But back on-topic. You compare what Cerberus did there with what Hitler did to jews in the Holocaust, that analogy is a pile of ****.

How so? its about killing innocent people for selfish reasons! I'm not saying the Holocaust wasn't worse, but it's a result of the same mindset. What i mean by that is I doubt TIM would have any reservations about committing similar atrocities.

Modifié par wulf3n, 18 juillet 2010 - 09:55 .

[snfonseka]

He is a anti villain.

[Anezay]

TIM is straight up evil. Look at the stuff he did in ME1. Even when he tries to paint himself in the best possible light to Shepard, he is still talking about human dominance. In the context of the Mass Effect universe, that would be like him coming out and advocating white dominance. TIM is space Hitler. On a side note, Goodwin's Law is fulfilled.

[General Ashous]

I think it's all a matter of perspective. Personally, I believe that he is somewhat evil but his aims and goals are generally for the greater good. I think you can look at it as he sacrifices a few lives to save millions, which can be a good thing, unless there are alternatives.

[Xilizhra]

Thread necromancy?



And the trouble is that he makes sacrifices to save human lives, and no one else's. He may not be out to destroy all other life in the galaxy, but I don't think he'd mind if that happened.

[Bad King]

He's certainly not a good guy, but he's an ally against the reapers. At the end of Mass Effect 2 he basically confirms that Cerberus will be ready to fight the reapers.

Note: Sorry, didn't notice the above thread necromancy

Modifié par Bad King, 12 septembre 2010 - 05:41 .