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[DigitalMaster37]

shinobi602 wrote...

Well, we know Ash/Kaidan and Liara will be back as squadmates. I think the more popular squadmates from ME2 have a surefire chance of returning. In my opinion I think these will return, almost guaranteed:

Mordin
Miranda
Tali
Garrus
Legion
Grunt

The others have a 50/50 chance I think.

I think this is spot on. Casey and other Dev's have gauranteed Liara/Ash/Kaiden as romances

So now it's a question if some of the ME2 ones will make it in. ALso if there will be new ones.

I'm betting on:

Liara
Ashley
Kaiden
Miranda
SuZe
Thane
Jacob
Tali
Garrus

I see this being a cut-off, they are not going to add new ones. I would put money on that. It's too many possibilities as it is.

I'd also say that the ME2 romances are in danger of possibly being cut out. But that is just my speculation.

Squad-wise I think we'll see the same characters. Any new members now would be pointless as far as character progression unless this is gonna  be one friggin HUGE game.

Modifié par Deltaboy37-1, 07 février 2010 - 04:15 .

[GenericPlayer2]

StrykerMan wrote...

Very very tough call, are there any of the ME2 characters that can't die if you succeed in the suicide mission (are Garrus, Miranda, and Jacob the only ones that can lead the 2nd team successfully and can they die another way?).

On my first playthrough Jacob and Garrus died, and I have heard from others who had Miranda die. Just reading some of the outcomes people had, it looks like no one (including shep) is spared death from all the possible permutations.

[Asante81]

What do you think was the reason for devs to say "Programming ME3 is a nightmare"?
THEY were the ones who planned a trilogy of games where every decision you made over 3 games will have an impact on the final result. To me the Kaidan/Ash decision looked like a small test run for what's going to happen afterwards.

EDIT: ME2 is about your squadmembers and choices you make. They're not going to ditch that just like that. They spent too much effort on it.

Modifié par Asante81, 07 février 2010 - 04:23 .

[stuchiu]

1) I agree with others who said that they'll try to develop previous romances from me1 and me2 and maybe throw in 1 or 2 more romances for me3.



2) As for the Main squad, I have no idea who'll be back, but I'm hoping for Tali, Garrus, Legion, Modin, Thane, and Grunt. Something I do want to see in the main party though is to have some guest party members for some of the major missions. Like fighting along with Wrex against the Reapers, committing sabotage with Captain Kirrahe, teaming up with Kal'Reeger, or killing vorcha with Aria. Be cool to get a spectre for a teammate as well.

[DigitalMaster37]

Asante81 wrote...

What do you think was the reason for devs to say "Programming ME3 is a nightmare"?
THEY were the ones who planned a trilogy of games where every decision you made over 3 games will have an impact on the final result. To me the Kaidan/Ash decision looked like a small test run for what's going to happen afterwards.

Actually they said programming ME2 was the nightmare. Casey himself said ME3 is easier because everything and every story arc comes to a close.

[GenericPlayer2]

I don't have strong feelings on who they decide to move forward with in ME3 - the only thing I know is that I will be upset if someone died in my ME2 playthrough and then came back in ME3 with some sort of explaination as to how "they really didn't die". I think they burned that plot trick with Shepard.

[MetallicaAssassin]

Mass Effect 3 will be either an incredible achievement in game design or a complete failure...but if anyone can pull it off it would be Bioware. I'm pretty sure they knew the consequences of putting so many variations into a game they planned on making a trilogy from the start. Chances are they have a solution to this.

[Hokochu]

I don't think they should have new romance options but I do believe flings could develop with characters like Shiala, Parasini and Kelly to name a few.



As for squadmates. I believe Liara and Ash/Kaiden should come back for sure. For ME2 only some will return if they are alive... those being the most plot-centric characters (imo): Garrus, Tali, Legion and Mordin, however it is quite possible that all love interests could be returning. In the event that a bunch of your party members died I'm willing the bet they will make around 6 new squaddies who will probably be more involved with the plot than anyone else (besides Liara).

[Locke72]

Since I believe it was said somewhere that "cheating" on your ME 1 LI would have concequences, Ash/Kaidan and Liara will most likely be returning as squadmates. Wrex is very doubtful- even if he survived he still has his hands full trying to unite the Krogan tribes. As for the ME 2 cast (assuming all survived) lets break it down.

Miranda/Jacob: Either you kept the Collector base and they stay aboard, or you destroyed it and they both resigned from Cerberus. In either case, they'll both more than likely stay aboard as crew. NPC's as a worst case.

Mordin: We all like him, but he's getting pretty damn old for a Solarian. If I had to guess, I'd say he'll be on the crew as an NPC.

Garrus: Seeing as he's been in the long run this far, I doubt he'll bail. He's not stupid- he knows whats at risk, and is pretty much duty-bound to help. Besides, the forum-goers would most likely throw a raging fit if he was cut down to a minor role. Bioware isn't stupid either.

Jack: This one is 50-50. I can see her leaving to do her own thing, or staying on board. Better of a chance if she was chosen as a LI, but even then I can see her deciding its just not for her. Could go either way.

Grunt: Another 50-50. He may stay with Shepard to indulge in more fighting, or he might return to Tuchanka to help out Wrex with his unification ordeal. His loyalties could go either way.

Thane: This is another unsure one. While he was an awesome character, very well-written, he IS dying. He might die before the 3rd game begins, or they may find some excuse to keep him alive. Dunno which way it will swing.

Samara: I doubt she'll stay, her oath to Shepard has been fufilled and she has more Justicar'ing to do. She might stick around, but I doubt it. Morinth will follow whatever fate Samara does.

Zaeed: He's a bounty hunter. His contract has been completed. Shepard is doing some crazy stuff, and crazy stuff usually gets you killed. Self interest + not getting paid = no more merc.

Tali: Just like Garrus, she's knee deep already and isn't going anywhere soon (not to mention the absolutely RABID fan following she has). Due to the major foreshadowing in her loyalty mission, a big subplot of the third game will 90% likely be either leading the Quarians to peace /war with the Geth. Tali will play a huge role in this.

Legion: He'll probably stay on board, maybe as an NPC. He'll be included somewhere, as I'm sure he'll play just as vital role as Tali in the upcoming Quarian/Geth confrontation.

Including these, Bioware will probably add 2-6 new characters in any event, including at least two new LI's (one male one female).
 

[Lord Atlia]

The good thing about ME3 is it is the end so they don't having to worry about choices compounding further. Take Tali and the Flotilla, if you return to the Flotilla in ME3 and Tali died you will get a different reaction than if she lived, if there were a ME4 and you returned to the Flotilla a 3rd time they would have to build scenarios based on what happened in ME2 and ME3. As you can see any given scene could lead to potential more than 2 ways it can play out. 2 potential scenarios for a scene is manageable, 20 is not. It is not like the whole galaxy changes depending on whether Grunt lives or dies, only a few scenes so it is far from costly to have characters from ME2 return in ME3. If you were a bad leader and people died you will face consequences in ME3 and a smaller party is a consequence.

[Eshaye]

Are we just talking squad mates? Whithout a doubt these guys are coming back:

Joker, Liara, Kaidan/Ashley. Did everyone catch Mordin mumbling about trying to find a cure for Joker? I perked up at that, maybe he'll be a squad mate though as far as we know he doesn't fight..Anderson might give up on the council all together and join up.

Everyone else is a strong maybe, it depends if BioWare is already writing for those possibilities or not, it's possible but not realistic to hope for it. Cameos for sure for the survivors.

More likely we will get new squad mates and one new romance for those who love to romance everything in sight or never liked anyone that way.. It's possible there's no new romances, but that wouldn't be fair for those with romances from ME2 that may not come back..

Man! What a nightmare, I guess that's why we love these guy.

[DigitalMaster37]

Hokochu wrote...

I don't think they should have new romance options but I do believe flings could develop with characters like Shiala, Parasini and Kelly to name a few.

As for squadmates. I believe Liara and Ash/Kaiden should come back for sure. For ME2 only some will return if they are alive... those being the most plot-centric characters (imo): Garrus, Tali, Legion and Mordin, however it is quite possible that all love interests could be returning. In the event that a bunch of your party members died I'm willing the bet they will make around 6 new squaddies who will probably be more involved with the plot than anyone else (besides Liara).

I agree, I would like the option to have a fling with Parasini and the others. I forgot about them. overall I agree with you.

[JumpManGSXR]

honestly, there should be a mixture of old and new squadies, granted that they survived the suicide mission, some squad mates obviously stand out more than other's, but it also keeps the game fresh.

[KingDan97]

Okay, the thing I think will happen in ME3 regarding squadmates is an either or thing. Let's say you run across a band of mercs. These mercs(if you got the squadmate out) would be led by, idk Grunt or Jack or someone. If they died then the mercs would be led by a new character. I don't feel like they'd spend the entire game putting so much importance on loyalty and things like that if none of them would be back in ME3. Also, they said that ME3 would have no real limits, that this was going to be the biggest sequel and they'd do whatever they'd wanted. I think off the bat you'll see a few possible survivors not coming back as squadmates from ME2, that imo would be Tali and Legion. They both(well, in Legion's case all of them) would end up leading their fleets into battle against the reapers. They'd essentially be the Wrex of ME3. I can see Thane being out of the fight for one of a few reasons(disease, looking for purpose, his son, etc.) along with Grunt, who may return to his people. Mordin could easily be either, since he's getting old and is trying to cure the genophage. As for the rest they could also be either, seeing as how they have neither reasons to stay or leave, except maybe your LI.



To be honest I don't think they'll bother advertising ME3 for anyone but those who played ME1/ME2 because they want this to be the end of the story, and it'll be way more then "overly refferential".

[Lord_Nikon]

ok I was gonna post but I think my thoughts deserve their own topic.

[Adamski_707]

I think everyone (still alive) should return and play some role in ME3.

But unless bioware pulls some interesting story twists there are some i doubt will return as squad mates the two im thinking of being thane and samara, possibly mordin considering he is damn near the end of a salarian lifespan (i think) If mordin returns i would say in a support role not an active team member.



I think Garrus, Tali, Miranda and Jacob will return for sure because i think these are the characters that shepard is most likely to trust and would still have a reason to stay with him on the normandy. I would hate not to have garrus and tali as they are both comrades in arms considering they have been with shepard since ME1.



As for ME1 characters i doubt wrex would be back as a squadmate i cant think of a way for it to make sense. As for liara who knows (Personaly though i wouldnt want her as a squadmate) and ashely/kaiden im pretty sure will make a return.

[HAGA NAGA]

CrimePays wrote...

I have two things for us all to ponder regarding Mass Effect 3. Both questions are open to debate, and of course, I will share my views on each of them. 

Should there be NEW romance options in ME3?
This is something I have been thinking about alot. Keep in mind BioWare have specifically stated this will be a trilogy, and low and behold... we are now awaiting the final installment. So surely at this point in Shepards story... he/she would be tying up loose ends rather than creating new distractions. It makes sense that the surviving love interest from ME1 (whether that be Kaidan, Ashley or Liara) would figure more into the third installment, and it will be interesting to see how they approach any relationships from the second game (considering any number of characters could be dead, and also the fact you can cheat on your partner from the first game).  

Who will be the main party in ME3?
Another almost impossible question to really answer, but it is definately worthy of debate. Again, to me, it wouldn't make alot of sense for Shepard to make a squad comprising of new characters. At this point you'd expect him/her to stick with people he/she can trust. But there's also a (very rare) possibility that everyone but Liara and Ashley/Kaidan are still alive at this point. I'm sure Shepard will return in the third game, but who will BioWare bring along with him/her? It just seems too far-fetched to think that BioWare would really have the time and resources to include a fully flexible squad depending on who lived and who died in previous games.  

I want to be clear too: for these questions I am not asking what your preferred squad/romance
would be, I'm asking what you think the squad/romance WILL be.

Should there be NEW romance options in ME3?

it's tough because as you eluded to, they are sort of exhausted on time to introduce new characters. problem is that ME2 left a lot of players neglected and disatisfied. the lack of gay/lesbian romances are an obvious point of disgruntlement  and others simple don't like the romances in general. myself, i'm totally pissed as a Femshep player who got thrown out the proverbial air-lock but others complaints are equally valid. i loved ME2, but in my estimation it failed on offering it's fans romance options (except maybe some maleshep players, which in all honesty could've been treated better as well, particularly in the m/m department). This is Bioware's thing! Romance! Dorky or not, THEY set the stage. they NEEEEEEED to deliver, even if it prolongs the release date.

Who will be the main party in ME3?

well, i think it could be handled in a simpler manner than you think. what if all of the characters from ME1 & ME2 were recruitable? you don't have to gain their "loyalty" with some long mission, they're already loyal from what you accomplished in the previous games. if you don't give a **** about them, don't go pick them up. if you do, there ya go. i think the real bulk of the story in ME3 will be with Shepard him/herself, although i certainly hope that doesn't translate into a seemingly quiet squad.  no matter what, ME3 has got to have a LOT of content and voice acting to be successful.

[ArcanistLibram]

I feel bad for the poor bastard who's going to have to write this.



That said, I'd prefer if new characters were kept to a minimum.

[SmokePants]

Nobody is coming back to your party from previous games. Being a former potential love interest is almost as big a disqualifier as being potentially dead. Too much complication in the relationship, which ultimately results in unsatisfyingly vague dialogue. Just imagine your interactions with former love interests in ME2 and how disappointed you were. Now, multiply that X100 if they were a significant part of the game.

It may be a part of the trilogy, but it won't be beholden to the past. Llike ME2, we'll be on a new, standalone mission, with new characters, forging new relationships. And yes, some of those relationships will be of a sexual nature. It wouldn't be a Bioware game otherwise.