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So...the Reapers will get here...in 50,000 years?


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Well, the Reapers may have figured out 2000+ years ago that the citadel wasn't responding to Sovereigns signal, and all or a portion of the Reaper flight may have headed towards the galaxy at FTL speeds.



Part of their strength is in surprise. They keep organic races in the dark about their tech as much as possible until it's too late, which may be way they keep themselves way out in darkspace. They might also conserve resources by doing things that way, and now that their plans have failed they have to depend on using those resources, for sure.

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sbear3737 wrote...

I'm extremely against the Haestrom-wormhole theory because it has so many holes and would completely bypass the point of mass effect drives and relays, it would be kind of a cop-out.

Singularity/wormhole tunneling is utterly outrageous science, there's no real proof of concept or even vague conceptualizations of how a thing could possibly even work. It has been said and theorized that were such a thing to exist, it'd either be uselessly tiny (as singularities are) and expanding them by whatever means will likely cause instability leading to collapse. If it were to happen, it would not take advantage of any mass effect fields/drives or whatever... it's simply a tunnel through space, so..... no. I'm extremely against the idea, it's too much fiction and unrelated to the rest of the mass effect universe.

I'm sure the Haestrom star will play some role in ME3 but probably more towards Quarian/Geth storylines than the main plot.


Don't kid yourself, the ME universe contains science just as, and more, unrealistic than harnessing the power of a star to create a giant wormhole.

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true, I'd just be really disappointed if that's the route BW chooses.

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wbaron wrote...

Man it's irritating when people try to play physics professor about a video game. How about this. Instead of posting equations and talking about time dilation, can we just agree that the ME universe does not conform to Einsteinian physics?

The ME folks can travel both faster than light and can also travel across distance instantaneously using mass effect relays. If you get bothered by that, this isn't the game for you.



calm down buddy

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jimmyjoefro

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sbear3737 wrote...

true, I'd just be really disappointed if that's the route BW chooses.


It's too obvious, IMO.  One of the major challenges to writers of series seems to be thinking of things hardly anyone has thought of/ will think of.

Reading these boards is probably the best way to figure out what people think is going to happen.  The most popular ideas seem to be:
 - The Reapers are coming through FTL travel.
 - Dark Energy turning stars into wormholes.  
 - Re-engineering a 37 million year old cannon. 

Chances are, these things will only end up being partly true. hell, They could all be completely wrong.

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I just hope they don't fall back on some kind of cheap "superweapon" to defeat the Reapers. Rely on ingenuity please!

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SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

KeledStrongarm wrote...

Going by if they were just using faster than light travel, it would depend on how much faster they were able to go. A light year is a measure of distance stating that if you were able to go the speed of light it would take you a year to get there. Now even if they were able to go twice the speed of light, the universe is a very large place. The milky way alone is 100,000 light years across which means it would take them 50,000 years to get across going twice the speed of light. So the question is how far and how fast and we can't answer that because, none of us have any idea about any of this because we don't know the circumstances. I'm not a Scientist, most of this is using Wikipedia, so this is just an opinion.



if they could theoretically travel faster than the speed of light, yes youre right it would take them a very long time.  but when you calculate how much time has passed outside of the Reapers' inertial reference frame (since they are the things traveling at that velocity), it makes almost no sense, like trying to divide something by infinity.  you have to use the Lorentz Factor to calculate the time dilation (which is 1/[Sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2)]), so something traveling AT the speed of light would age infinitely and time would literally cease to exist for everything outside of it; at v = 1c (c = speed of light), the Lorentz Factor becomes 1 divided by 0, which as you know is impossible to calculate, you can only use basic calculus by taking limits that approach 0 from the negative and positive directions.

aside from the ridiculous time dilation, theres also the problem of an object gaining mass.  the faster an object moves, the more mass is gained.  so technically, an object moving at the speed of light has infinite mass, and hence einstein's energy-mass relationship E=MC^2, implies that the object also has infinite energy, which again is a physical impossibility. 

the key would be to somehow "jump" across the speed of light; but this again seems impossible as there is no such thing as traveling from 0 to 2337248323826912 mph without any lapse of time between; there is always an increase of velocity and hence an acceleration, so it is "technically" impossible to travel faster than the speed of light because of the many barriers that stand in the way.

long story short, hopefully the reapers can manipulate the spacetime fabric by creating and utilizing wormholes and maybe even black holes; assuming they even exist (yes, black holes still need concrete evidence) they are really the only way to "travel" at faster-than-light speeds.

i apologize for the lengthy argument and how into it i got, i'm a double-major in physics and math :alien:


Also remember, moving past the speed of light involves traversing a discontinuous function at v = c, :P, that **** just doesn't work. Fun to think about though

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THOUGHTS BORN OF IGNORANCE. YOU CANNOT HOPE TO COMPREHEND THE MOTIVES OF THE REAPERS.



....nuff said.