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[Randy1012]

SharpEdgeSoda wrote...

Ash appeals very strongly to a very specific crowd, some would say too specific (yet that makes her only more appealing to me)

Erm, exactly what sort of crowd would that be?

[HAGA NAGA]

all of a sudden? um. sorry, it is in fact YOU that are all of a sudden. sorry bout that.

[Internet Kraken]

I don't know how she got so popular in the first place. I guess part of it is her mystery factor. Also in the first game she had very little personality. She wasn't a particularly deep character, but this meant that there wasn't anything you could really hate about her (unlike,say, Ashley). I used to like her to. I wasn't a major fan of her, but she was okay.

Hate her in Mass Effect 2. She just sounds selfish to me. Her whining about the Quarian homeworld really made me dislike her. And then she pulled a gun on Legion, making me dislike her even more. Now I haven't actually payed much attention to her yet. I intend to do that in my next playthrough to see if she is actually a likable character, But right now I despise her.

I don't want to kill her though. I'd just like the option to punch her. Just once.

Modifié par Internet Kraken, 07 février 2010 - 06:38 .

[vigna]

Frankly, unless you are playing on insanity you should be able to beat about anybody with Shep and any 2 crewmates....Shep is too tough honestly...unless you pooch the character build.

[trigger2kill1]

For the same reason that the Sports illistrated swim suit edition was so popular in the 70's

That mixed with a liberal amount of no-life thrown in to boot!

The long of the short of it is they are 12 years old or freaks.

[DarchAngelDavid]

There have always been a lot of Tali fans. The fact that she is in ME2 as a LI is becaues of the number of fans who demanded it. Bio Ware said so them selves. They never knew they had a gem like her that fans really wanted until we spoke out. Her popularity is also put out there by the fact that she is the first female toy to be released for the game this August. You dont get something like this with a small fan base.

[Lord Atlia]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

In relation to the total number of consumers of ME, there aren't. Tali fans are just REALLY vocal.

I would love to see where you get your data.  Samples from surveys usually show Tali as one of the more popular characters this could or couldn't reflect the entire population but we have no real statistical way to prove that.  Her combat drone is good for distracting tough mobs (geth prime) and can knock enimies out of cover.

[fortunesque]

There's always been a large amount of Tali fans. There's been an increase in her fans because the Liara and Ashley cameos were dissatisfying to people that were on the fence about the characters. Now the Talimob creates an average of three threads a day about her, clogging the forums with multiple threads with the two highest used words being "hips" and "face".

[Schneidend]

vigna wrote...

Frankly, unless you are playing on insanity you should be able to beat about anybody with Shep and any 2 crewmates....Shep is too tough honestly...unless you pooch the character build.

And, on Insanity, Chitika vas Paws shines like an adorable purple sun. D'aaaaww. Lookit 'er, zappin' that mean ole Harbinger. Go for the optics, Chitika!

[Dave of Canada]

Tali'zorah Fanaticism is a belief or behavior involving unthinking adoration, particularly for an extreme sexual or romantic cause or in some cases unresistable trolling, or with an obsessive enthusiasm for a insulting other romance options or posting about how amazing Tali is.

Professor Krung defines Tali'zorah fanaticism as "redoubling your effort to be like Kirk"; according to Ambassador Udina,"A Tali fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the
subject". By either description the fanatic displays very strict standards and little tolerance for contrary ideas or opinions.

For many Tali'zorah Fanatics a weekly breeding cycle applies, typically regulated by ambient temperature, precipitation, availability of lotion and antiseptics. Breeding habitats tend to be in large and cluttered threads where the fanatic may lay their eggs and hide them from the predatorial LOLRP troll.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 07 février 2010 - 06:47 .

[mcvxiii]

Lord Atlia wrote...
I would love to see where you get your data.  Samples from surveys usually show Tali as one of the more popular characters this could or couldn't reflect the entire population but we have no real statistical way to prove that.

Where is your data? Where are the numbers for these surveys? How were these surveys conducted? Oh right, you have have no real statistical way to prove anything you said. You thinking that a charcter is the best thing since hydrogen is one thing but you = 1.

[SharpEdgeSoda]

Randy1083 wrote...

SharpEdgeSoda wrote...

Ash appeals very strongly to a very specific crowd, some would say too specific (yet that makes her only more appealing to me)

Erm, exactly what sort of crowd would that be?

Me, a man who believes in God, has a large family, believes in conservative values and strives for independence, but not nessacarily isolation. If humanity needs the Council to function then that does, in fact, give them absolute power over us. We need to cooperate, not prostrate ourselves before them just for a little more politcal power.

And, and if you think she is racist, you are wrong.

[fortunesque]

mcvxiii wrote...

Lord Atlia wrote...
I would love to see where you get your data.  Samples from surveys usually show Tali as one of the more popular characters this could or couldn't reflect the entire population but we have no real statistical way to prove that.

Where is your data? Where are the numbers for these surveys? How were these surveys conducted? Oh right, you have have no real statistical way to prove anything you said. You thinking that a charcter is the best thing since hydrogen is one thing but you = 1.

Exactly. This site counts as a small percentage of the fanbase. If you look on other forums and sites, you will see a decrease in Tali fans. Honestly, I think that because the Talimance fans got what they wanted, they are storming the Bioware forums in any way they can.

[Dave of Canada]

fortunesque wrote...

mcvxiii wrote...

Lord Atlia wrote...
I would love to see where you get your data.  Samples from surveys usually show Tali as one of the more popular characters this could or couldn't reflect the entire population but we have no real statistical way to prove that.

Where is your data? Where are the numbers for these surveys? How were these surveys conducted? Oh right, you have have no real statistical way to prove anything you said. You thinking that a charcter is the best thing since hydrogen is one thing but you = 1.

Exactly. This site counts as a small percentage of the fanbase. If you look on other forums and sites, you will see a decrease in Tali fans. Honestly, I think that because the Talimance fans got what they wanted, they are storming the Bioware forums in any way they can.

Talimancers got more than what they wanted, and still they yearn for MORE.

[deusofnull]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

In relation to the total number of consumers of ME, there aren't. Tali fans are just REALLY vocal.

Honestly, thats pretty true
lol

[MagicianCamille]

"Hey I just joined the forums and am ignorant to ongoing trends."

[fortunesque]

Dave of Canada wrote...


Talimancers got more than what they wanted, and still they yearn for MORE.

Yep. I didn't whine about the romance choices in the first game and alls I got was an angry cameo <_<

[Kolaris8472]

I'm a fan because she's still a "can't have"



Playing all hard to get...we'll see how that works for you



...probably quite well ;_;

[Randy1012]

SharpEdgeSoda wrote...

Randy1083 wrote...

SharpEdgeSoda wrote...

Ash appeals very strongly to a very specific crowd, some would say too specific (yet that makes her only more appealing to me)

Erm, exactly what sort of crowd would that be?

Me, a man who believes in God, has a large family, believes in conservative values and strives for independence, but not nessacarily isolation. If humanity needs the Council to function then that does, in fact, give them absolute power over us. We need to cooperate, not prostrate ourselves before them just for a little more politcal power.

And, and if you think she is racist, you are wrong.

Ah. I'm just wondering, because I'm a liberal agnostic who believes in very progressive values and thinks that mutual cooperation between all species, with none dominating the others, is the best road towards success, but Ashley still appealed to me a very great deal. I guess I'm just weird.

[T1l]

MagicianCamille wrote...

"Hey I just joined the forums and am ignorant to ongoing trends."

OP created his or her account a week ago, and has only registered Mass Effect 2.

~1 week to play and complete the game; comes on to forums to find like-minded people; finds 10 Tali threads. Likely.

[marshalleck]

SharpEdgeSoda wrote...

Randy1083 wrote...

SharpEdgeSoda wrote...

Ash appeals very strongly to a very specific crowd, some would say too specific (yet that makes her only more appealing to me)

Erm, exactly what sort of crowd would that be?

Me, a man who believes in God, has a large family, believes in conservative values and strives for independence, but not nessacarily isolation. If humanity needs the Council to function then that does, in fact, give them absolute power over us. We need to cooperate, not prostrate ourselves before them just for a little more politcal power.

And, and if you think she is racist, you are wrong.

Her "I can't tell the aliens from the animals" comment doesn't really help her image.

I think she's the victim of a few unfortunate lines of dialogue that create a bad impression.

[Lord Atlia]

fortunesque wrote...

mcvxiii wrote...

Lord Atlia wrote...
I would love to see where you get your data.  Samples from surveys usually show Tali as one of the more popular characters this could or couldn't reflect the entire population but we have no real statistical way to prove that.

Where is your data? Where are the numbers for these surveys? How were these surveys conducted? Oh right, you have have no real statistical way to prove anything you said. You thinking that a charcter is the best thing since hydrogen is one thing but you = 1.

Exactly. This site counts as a small percentage of the fanbase. If you look on other forums and sites, you will see a decrease in Tali fans. Honestly, I think that because the Talimance fans got what they wanted, they are storming the Bioware forums in any way they can.

Oh, sorry, didn't mean to sound so arrogant.  I've seen a lot of data on this site showing Tali as one of the more popular characters.  Other sites surveys may show differently.  In which case we could combine surveys and get a more accurate view on where the population stands.  A lot of people just say Tali isn't popular to the casual gamer but don't provide a measurable reference to back up their claim.

[Schneidend]

Kolaris8472 wrote...

I'm a fan because she's still a "can't have"

Playing all hard to get...we'll see how that works for you

...probably quite well ;_;

She's not a "can't have" at all. She falls in love with DudeShep and you can sleep with her before the suicide mission, you know. If you're playing FemShep, well then, yes, can't have, indeed.

[Cutlass Jack]

I notice all the people who insist Tali isn't the most popular character don't mention who is. Tali is the most likable character in both games, so of course she's going to have popularity.



Of course the number of people who aren't Tali fans are going to outnumber the ones who are. But they aren't agreed on any single other character. As even the most casual perusal of these boards should indicate pretty plainly.

[77boy84]

Dave of Canada wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

mcvxiii wrote...

Lord Atlia wrote...
I would love to see where you get your data.  Samples from surveys usually show Tali as one of the more popular characters this could or couldn't reflect the entire population but we have no real statistical way to prove that.

Where is your data? Where are the numbers for these surveys? How were these surveys conducted? Oh right, you have have no real statistical way to prove anything you said. You thinking that a charcter is the best thing since hydrogen is one thing but you = 1.

Exactly. This site counts as a small percentage of the fanbase. If you look on other forums and sites, you will see a decrease in Tali fans. Honestly, I think that because the Talimance fans got what they wanted, they are storming the Bioware forums in any way they can.

Talimancers got more than what they wanted, and still they yearn for MORE.

That's what happens when the developers cater to the fans like that.
The fans begged for tali in ME2, bioware gave it to them, now they think they'll get whatever they want as long as they're loud enough.