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[ArnoldJR]

Archonsg wrote...

ArnoldJR wrote...

Yazman wrote...

They will thepringle, the lead gameplay designer has posted in here and twittered about us

Any idea roughly where in the thread? It's so huge, what have we created

I would not put too much on either posting or the tweet.
Christina roughly said ... "wow this board supports 500++pages of postings?"

And her tweet essentially said "Okies okies.. we get that you guys like Tali."

Thats more or less it.
However one of her tweets did confirm that Tali will not be in ME *if* she dies in ME2. Which figures, but also implies that she could be in if she didn't die.
The real question is will Tali be a team member and have a major role in ME3. Which what this thread is all about.

Personally I don't know how much influence we have, considering that the game's story and outline would have been more or less set and done before even ME2 was worked on, but thats not to say that we can't hope and in by posting how much we care that things could be changed.

I know for example that Tali was supposed to be a romanceable in ME1 but that option was taken out because they did not have enough time or could not figure out how to implement it properly. Bioware could have easily stuck with the decision to keep Tali a non-romanceable character and be done with it. Instead they listened (or at least I hope this was the case) and made the changes.
Considering that Tali's romance happened and *is* the best romance in
ME2, I'd say this is a hopefully a good sign that we'd see Tali in ME3 along with the "happy ending" Tali and Shepard deserves.

Well, obviously since she died (you heartless bastards who let that happen ) you wouldn't see Tali in ME3. 

Well said, Archon.

However, consider this. Look at the thread as a whole, it shows that people are committed, interested in what will happen in the third game and that we're prepared to post what we think of such. It's valuable feedback for Bioware that they can act on, or not. But the fact that Christina posted means that they're definitely interested in us. Which counts for something, if only a small something.

[lonestar614]

www.youtube.com/watch

[DTKT]

Woooohoooo!



1000 pages and more!



Good job everyone.

[intersect]

Here's an interesting scenario, what if in ME3 the Geth build a consensus and decide not to go the peaceful route with the Quarians or anyone else which leads to the decision to kill Shepard (Obvioyusly Shepard sides with Tali). Legion being an autonomous platform loyal to Shepard, would it link with the rest of the Geth and be overridden with the new directive? Or stand with Shepard against its own people?

Modifié par intersect, 17 février 2010 - 01:07 .

[turelhimvampire]

I REALLY hope that Bioware are/were working on ME2 and ME3 together, like Peter Jackson did with Lord of the Rings. That would mean that they'd need less time to get the voice actors together, etc, and could speed up production times and release ME3 earlier than we expect.



It WOULD make sense, considering how much money EA/Bioware will make from the deal.

[vigna]

Woah, this thread is the stuff of legends.

[The_KFD_Case]

Elastica wrote...

Wally2905 wrote...

Nah, I don't believe we'll have to choose between Tali and the galaxy. It would be totaly anticlimactic and a poor way to end this epic saga. If in the end it does hinge on the choice between Tali and everything else...plenty of other galaxies for Tali and me

That would be terribly cruel. It would be just like telling you "Bwahahahah! You should have learned long ago that you can't have it all. Choose your flavor of fail".

Frankly, I would have no interest in living with such a burden in a galaxy without her, so the choice would be die and save the galaxy or die and screw the galaxy. "Sorry, people. Better luck next cycle".

The gods of fate can be cruel indeed. I imagine we'll get a veritable buffett of choice endings ranging from the aforementioned "Save the galaxy or your love interest" to "Save the galaxy and live happily with your love interest". The smart money says the choices will more or less run the gamut of the human emotional spectrum.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 17 février 2010 - 01:07 .

[Yazman]

Intersect, we know the geth hae enough individuality that they can defy orders, and that they can have ideological disputes. We know this because they've experienced a massive schism - that of the heretics.



Legion wouldn't be forced to change. He would have to choose. What he would choose, though, I don't know.

[Kekonek11]

turelhimvampire wrote...

I REALLY hope that Bioware are/were working on ME2 and ME3 together, like Peter Jackson did with Lord of the Rings. That would mean that they'd need less time to get the voice actors together, etc, and could speed up production times and release ME3 earlier than we expect.

It WOULD make sense, considering how much money EA/Bioware will make from the deal.

They were/are working at Mass Effect 3 and 2 together. I can assure you that audio is already recorded. Trust me, even without source, I bet. Now tell me if action figures coming in august will be available in europe, please.

[Archonsg]

lonestar614 wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

That was pretty good. Flashbacks for the win!

[DTKT]

I wonder if we are going to hit 2000 pages before they close it. :S

[DTKT]

Yazman wrote...

Intersect, we know the geth hae enough individuality that they can defy orders, and that they can have ideological disputes. We know this because they've experienced a massive schism - that of the heretics.

Legion wouldn't be forced to change. He would have to choose. What he would choose, though, I don't know.

Yeah, but it's not on an individual level. It's more on a group level. One part refused to believe the Reapers and the others just followed. There's no "individuality" with the Geths.

[Wally2905]

Yazman wrote...

They will thepringle, the lead gameplay designer has posted in here and twittered about us

Twittered you say. Got a link for that Yazman?

[ArnoldJR]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Elastica wrote...

Wally2905 wrote...

Nah, I don't believe we'll have to choose between Tali and the galaxy. It would be totaly anticlimactic and a poor way to end this epic saga. If in the end it does hinge on the choice between Tali and everything else...plenty of other galaxies for Tali and me

That would be terribly cruel. It would be just like telling you "Bwahahahah! You should have learned long ago that you can't have it all. Choose your flavor of fail".

Frankly, I would have no interest in living with such a burden in a galaxy without her, so the choice would be die and save the galaxy or die and screw the galaxy. "Sorry, people. Better luck next cycle".

The gods of fate can be cruel indeed. I imagine we'll get a veritable buffett of choice endings ranging from the aforementioned "Save the galaxy or your love interest" to "Save the galaxy and live happily with your love interest". The smart money says the choices will more or less run the gamut of the human emotional spectrum.

Indeed. Considering that any number of your team could be dead, the gameplay experience should be different every time. Lots of threads to wrap up for the final game; obviously there's the Reapers but what of the Geth and Quarians? simmering human-alien hate exploding into violence/war? The fate of the krogan race or rachni (if you saved them?) Perhaps the rachni return and you can ask them to help against the Reapers?

So many possibilities.

[valttu]

Wally2905 wrote...

Yazman wrote...

They will thepringle, the lead gameplay designer has posted in here and twittered about us

Twittered you say. Got a link for that Yazman?

I guess he's talking about Christina. Here's the link: http://twitter.com/truffle

"620 page thread on social.bioware.com regarding putting Tali in ME3. Ok, I get it, you guys like Tali...."

lol its over 1030 now.



Oh and hello everyone! I'm back.

[Yazman]

Wally2905: http://www.twitter.com/truffle is Christina Norman's twitter page

DTKT wrote...

Yazman wrote...

Intersect, we know the geth hae enough individuality that they can defy orders, and that they can have ideological disputes. We know this because they've experienced a massive schism - that of the heretics.

Legion wouldn't be forced to change. He would have to choose. What he would choose, though, I don't know.

Yeah, but it's not on an individual level. It's more on a group level. One part refused to believe the Reapers and the others just followed. There's no "individuality" with the Geths.

Its more a bit of both I think.

Its not so much that they're a hivemind and that there's no individuality, its more that individual platforms lack the ability to process higher level functioning (and basic individuality) by themselves. Each geth begins to develop individuality when they co-ordinate low-level functions together though, because then it frees up more processing power and time for them to act on a much higher level.

Legion is the only one who can still act and think on his own on that high level without co-ordinating low level processes with others though.

[Wildhide]

DTKT wrote...

Yazman wrote...

Intersect, we know the geth hae enough individuality that they can defy orders, and that they can have ideological disputes. We know this because they've experienced a massive schism - that of the heretics.

Legion wouldn't be forced to change. He would have to choose. What he would choose, though, I don't know.

Yeah, but it's not on an individual level. It's more on a group level. One part refused to believe the Reapers and the others just followed. There's no "individuality" with the Geths.

And Legion isn't an individual, so it would be the concensus of those geth inside his platform.

[Archonsg]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

The gods of fate can be cruel indeed. I imagine we'll get a veritable buffett of choice endings ranging from the aforementioned "Save the galaxy or your love interest" to "Save the galaxy and live happily with your love interest". The smart money says the choices will more or less run the gamut of the human emotional spectrum.

This is very likely and I hope the route they will take. In fact they could do the "short and nasty" route where Shepard takes the "easiest" quickest path to save the galaxy but looses everyone who works for him and die himself (maybe) but I rather he lives to suffer the consequence if this route is there.
Then the middle road where most of the choices would lead to a save the galaxy and perhaps loose the LI, some people.
Then we'd have the hardest, you REALLY need to explore all options, do everything in your power be it the Renegade or Paragon path to save everyone including yourself.
More or less what ME2 did, only hopefully, more subtle about it.

It would be interesting for example to see if moral implications can be explored as well, can we for example somehow instil a respect for organic life in the Geth Loyalist that they decide to sacrifice themselves to save the Quarians, or make both the Krogans and Rachni understand that if they do not work together, both races will be lost in this great galactic struggle? Just imagine the scene, if you choose to go the short route, in the final battle the battle will be won but at the cost of the Quarians, Krogans, Rachni and countless more deaths. But take the hard route to unite them all and we see Quarian engineers working feverishly to disable Reaper mechs, while Krogan and Rachni, ancestral enemies, fight shoulder to shoulder to hold the line. Epic to say the least, no?

[valttu]

I really hope they don't make the ending of ME3 too tragic. There are enough sad endings in the world already. I want my Shepard to survive with Tali and some of his best friends. Joker and Garrus at least.

[RevanKun123]

...1034 pages already? Time seem to flow so quickly.
Anyway, I tried to wrote something again about Shepard and tali.
And yes It's short again...sorry about it.


There was much more to the human and the quarian than the legends hold.
A feathery touch
A gentle gesture
A dream of pureness
A simple love
There is a darker side to everything.
She know it better than anyone.
While her heart brimmed with love for the commander, She also had been filled with a lust for him so raw it pained just as it satisfied, so great it consumed her.
She thirsted for the pleasure that would braid itself into her veins, to run in dark and seamless line between platelets and oxygen.
It was a strange feeling, this subtle joy, a confidence in something more. She had possessed it before...but was it this intense? she doesn't remember. It changed her, now, little by little.
It made her tremble. It made her feel like she was bursting with energy, ready to leap into song as if this was some ancient tale told by a fireside. It made her weak, yet it made her strong.
She was vulnerable, very vulnerable, concerning that. And yet, these feelings gave her a sense of complete purpose and contentment. Restlessness became a feature of the past when she dowelled on it.
A feeling, a sense of knowledge spoken of in many tales. A feeling rebuked and rejoiced in. Described in every way, in the blooming of a flower, in the birth of new life.
It was agonizing that she couldn't have him all for herself.
She was being selfish and it wasn't supposed to be like that, it wasn't right.
She watched him.
She watched him for so long...
Still in her selfish heart.
It wasn't enough.
But even so, she would still love her god of battle.
Shepard.

[Beyonder101]

Can somebody please post that .gif againfrom shepard an Tali hugging im bed? It´s kinda hard to fing something in OVER 1000 pages.... applaus for that again

[valttu]

Uhmm... What the heck has happened to this thread..? It's so quiet nowadays...

Have you guys forgotten what we are fighting for?

We're fightin for Tali! <3

We're fightin for her presence as a squadmate and a love interest in Mass Effect 3. We're fighting so that we could hear her voice again, many times. We're fighting to see her beautiful face...

We're fighting for DEM HIPS AND DAT ASS!!!!!!!!!

Keep the thread strong, Talimancers!!! <3

[DrakeforBake]

I'm hoping for the end you can only achieve a truly happy ending by playing a hard line paragon OR renegade across all 3 games combined. Only those that stick to their guns can truly be the ultimate hero uniting the galaxy or the complete badass that hauls it to glory, both of them resulting in an "Against all odds" true victory.

Edit: and of course, Tali gets all the loving at the end. Can't believe I left out the important part.

Modifié par DrakeforBake, 17 février 2010 - 01:36 .

[valttu]

Beyonder101 wrote...

Can somebody please post that .gif againfrom shepard an Tali hugging im bed? It´s kinda hard to fing something in OVER 1000 pages.... applaus for that again

Hmm I don't have the gif but you can easily find that video on youtube. It's sweeeeeeeet.

[Archonsg]

valttu wrote...

I really hope they don't make the ending of ME3 too tragic. There are enough sad endings in the world already. I want my Shepard to survive with Tali and some of his best friends. Joker and Garrus at least.

Or only if you CHOOSE to make it tragic.
Like in ME2, if you just rush off with the attitude of "Don't care, don't need upgrades, just want to get this done!" You and everyone dies. Then the middle road where some might die, and of course what I believe any true fan will do, work to keep everyone alive.

If they give me the option of say playing another 20hours just so I can save Tali, I'd do it. As long as I get that option.