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[Archonsg]

Lord_Moose wrote...

tykfa1990 wrote...

Qwib Qwib captain: It's irresponsible to allow this thing on the board of quarian Ship commander Shepard!
Shepard: He's not gonna harm anyone untill I'll order him so...
Legion: We do not intend to harm the creators, but we will defen ourselves if needed.
Q: Pathetic liar! You did not want to harm us? You already did too much harm to us.
L: ( yes, what could Legion say ? do my idea of the trial's first stage including Legion look good enough? what could Tali say? )

May you tell me?

This platform has not caused harm to the creators, it was built 2 years, 2 weeks, 4 hours, and several minutes from this moment. This platform has not used its combat capibilities against the quarian-creators, yet.
Shepard: "Was the 'yet' really nessessary?!"

Hahaha! That is so in the soul of it. Well done.

[SgTKilmor]

MMA7FF wrote...

need more posts....
hey guys ! Tali's here!!!

Lying is a bad character trait.

I'm off, Keelah Se'lai.

[Exakil]

@ Addo hehe, Noveria was always good for strange conversation options, the fights there got a bit dull I think though, the conversation parts were great though

[SteelEagleShane]

Sorry I haven't been on this thread much. It has been a hellish day, and that was before the ehadache that was the forums today.



I'd think that Tali would probably find Earthborn Shepard best. For what was said above, but also because it is an environment that is just so different from hers that it becomes wonderous.

[Lareit]

AddoExAtrum wrote...

@Exakil

Do you remember Noveria in ME1? I love when you walk up to the guards with Tali in your party

Guards: You have to give up your weapons
Shepard: We'll cooperate.. for now
Tali: is that armor in good shape? Im standing behind you when we find the geth...

There is no mention of geth, she simply says she'll be right behind you.

[Hader102]

Archonsg wrote...

Now this is a very interesting question.
You do realize that almost no matter what Shepard’s background is, Tali has a hook or can empathize with him.

For example, Spacefarer seems the most obvious but I don’t that is as strong as anything other than another “space migrant”. But it is at least a common ground she understands.

It really becomes interesting when Shepard has his background other than as a Spacefarer.
For example if he is a colonist, there’s lots for Tali and Shepard to talk about and for her to find things of interest to her. Shepard’s loss of his parents and the raid that killed them for example. She can definitely relate to your lost of home and family.

Even as an Earther, I would think she would find it fascinating to talk about how crowded the slums were and how gangs worked on earth. Looked from her perspective, in this case, Shepard’s life on earth and climb out of poverty to prove himself sounds quite a bit like he went on his own personal pilgrimage.

As for the other traits, She’ll see a “ruthless” character as someone willing to make hard choices like the conclave or those serving on the admiralty board, or rather her ideal of someone on either bodies should make. Strength of self and perhaps she sees her father in you.

Sole survivor would speak to her on a more personal level as she seems to always be the one “left behind”. First, on her pilgrimage, at the end of ME1, then at Freedom’s Progress , then at Haelstrom and later on the Alarei. She knows more than any other what it means to be the one left behind by friends and the ones she loves.

Everybody loves the Hero, though I think her view of Shepard the Hero is quite something different. She mentions shepard saving her, that’s personal, she mentions Sehpard saving the colonists on Feros, Shepard’s willingness to take the high, harder road to save everyone speaks to her a way as only a Quarian who must always think of others first can undertand and she mentions Shepard trying to save the galaxy even when the galaxy turns its back to him. Her perspective of him is something quite more intimate I would think no?

No other “love interest” had quite the same development in terms of having something common and a real genuine feel that she’s the real thing as far as her emotions go. She does love Shepard, and it’s not “puppy” love, or lust, but something born from her time spent with him and knowing him in more intimate ways that the other Love interest just doesn’t have.

Indeed, all valid points to make. It's another reason that, when it boils down to it, these things are more just personal preference than anything. I just wish that it would play into the story of Tali and Shepard a bit more, maybe make it more interesting.

[AddoExAtrum]

@MMA7FF



*quickly picks pocket, steals napkin with phone number. grumbles when he sees number 555-555-5555*

[Hader102]

AddoExAtrum wrote...

@hader102

the main purpose for the background was for your bonus to alignment in ME1

spacer/warhero was double paragon
colonist/sole survivor was mix
earthborn/ruthless was double renegade

it does play into miranda's LI conversation thou but not Tali's unfortunately

Yes yes I know, once again, all I said was pure speculation. As I mentioned, there isn't any dialogue that has anything to do with your Shepard's history when youtalk with Tali. Just saying that it would be a good 'topic of discussion' between Tali and Shepard, perhaps. Another way for them to bond.

[AddoExAtrum]

@Lareit



close enough for government work....

[Wally2905]

Allright, some more speculation. What do you think will happen in ME3 with Shepards that had a love interest in ME1 and decided to drop it for Tali? How do you think that issue will resolve itself? I romanced Liara...Ash is a tad too militant for my taste (in hindsight It might be dangerous to dump that one).



Am I going to have to choose to have who do I want o keep on Normandy, or will coexistance be an option.?



Something else...do you think we will be able to have ME1 and ME2 crew, or will the number of slots be limited?

[MMA7FF]

AddoExAtrum wrote...

@MMA7FF

*quickly picks pocket, steals napkin with phone number. grumbles when he sees number 555-555-5555*

hahahaha:pinched:
that was the decoy
ive hidden the real number in an undisclosed location:ph34r:

[Lareit]

AddoExAtrum wrote...

@Lareit

close enough for government work....

Hahah indeed, I just see alot of misquotes over the time I have been lurking. I intend, since I finally registered, to correct them as I see them.

[AddoExAtrum]

MMA7FF wrote...

AddoExAtrum wrote...

@MMA7FF

*quickly picks pocket, steals napkin with phone number. grumbles when he sees number 555-555-5555*

hahahaha:pinched:
that was the decoy
ive hidden the real number in an undisclosed location:ph34r:

*loud snap echos through the forum as Addo puts on latex gloves* Time for the full body cavity search...

[Exakil]

Thats quite a job there Lareit, considering the number of posts and quotes flying around I stopped trying to even post in the day, let alone make corrections

[AddoExAtrum]

Wally2905 wrote...

Allright, some more speculation. What do you think will happen in ME3 with Shepards that had a love interest in ME1 and decided to drop it for Tali? How do you think that issue will resolve itself? I romanced Liara...Ash is a tad too militant for my taste (in hindsight It might be dangerous to dump that one).

Am I going to have to choose to have who do I want o keep on Normandy, or will coexistance be an option.?

Something else...do you think we will be able to have ME1 and ME2 crew, or will the number of slots be limited?

I figure they will add 2 new possibilities. Ash/Liara or Kaiden/Liara depending what you did in ME1. As for the love interest Liara I dont see being a problem Asari are used to single matings. Ash on the other hand tries to make up to you with a message after y ou meet her on horizon if she was your LI so that could be a problem

[RogueWriter3201]

Archonsg wrote...

Hader102 wrote...

Alright, I gotta be going now. Long day ahead, but after today...easy 4 day weekend for me!

Thought I would pose one question to everyone though, get some more discussion going: What combo of pre-service history and psychological profile for a male Shepard do you think Tali would be most compatible with/find most appealing? I know it doesn't really matter that much, especially in creating extra dialogue (none to date as far as Tali goes) but it's something I have been thinking about. I thought Spacer would be good, spending your whole life aboard ships like she has. Colonist also poses the situation where you know what it's like to have no parents either. Could get some interesting mixes I guess.

Anyways, have fun guys, 1100 pages by tonight? Keelah Se'lai!

Now this is a very interesting question.
You do realize that almost no matter what Shepard’s background is, Tali has a hook or can empathize with him.

For example, Spacefarer seems the most obvious but I don’t that is as strong as anything other than another “space migrant”. But it is at least a common ground she understands.

It really becomes interesting when Shepard has his background other than as a Spacefarer.
For example if he is a colonist, there’s lots for Tali and Shepard to talk about and for her to find things of interest to her. Shepard’s loss of his parents and the raid that killed them for example. She can definitely relate to your lost of home and family.

Even as an Earther, I would think she would find it fascinating to talk about how crowded the slums were and how gangs worked on earth. Looked from her perspective, in this case, Shepard’s life on earth and climb out of poverty to prove himself sounds quite a bit like he went on his own personal pilgrimage.

As for the other traits, She’ll see a “ruthless” character as someone willing to make hard choices like the conclave or those serving on the admiralty board, or rather her ideal of someone on either bodies should make. Strength of self and perhaps she sees her father in you.

Sole survivor would speak to her on a more personal level as she seems to always be the one “left behind”. First, on her pilgrimage, at the end of ME1, then at Freedom’s Progress , then at Haelstrom and later on the Alarei. She knows more than any other what it means to be the one left behind by friends and the ones she loves.

Everybody loves the Hero, though I think her view of Shepard the Hero is quite something different. She mentions shepard saving her, that’s personal, she mentions Sehpard saving the colonists on Feros, Shepard’s willingness to take the high, harder road to save everyone speaks to her a way as only a Quarian who must always think of others first can undertand and she mentions Shepard trying to save the galaxy even when the galaxy turns its back to him. Her perspective of him is something quite more intimate I would think no?

No other “love interest” had quite the same development in terms of having something common and a real genuine feel that she’s the real thing as far as her emotions go. She does love Shepard, and it’s not “puppy” love, or lust, but something born from her time spent with him and knowing him in more intimate ways that the other Love interest just doesn’t have.

I almost agree with everything you stated, Arc. All in all, an Outstanding sum of observations. However, I have to disagree that Spacer Shepard is not the Strongest Back-Story Tali can relate too. In point of fact, if you use the Spacer backstory and Pay attention, that Backstory would speak to Tali more than any of the others. Allow me to explain.

As we know, Tali Zorah was the Child of Two rather influencial (spelling? Ugh..) members of Quarian Society. Her Father Rael was a Prominent Scientist and natural Leader who eventually became the Leading figure of the Admirality Board. Tali's mother was also a Prominent Engineer and well respected. Both Parents loved thier child and tried to instill deep core values in thier daughter that would remind her of the importance of progress while preserving the sanctity of life. Tali Would learn these values while moving across the Galaxy, moving from one ship or another as her Father did his research or later with his duty to the Admiralty. Tali, by nature of being a Quarian, would grow up with a Natural love of Space and an understanding that the best things can be achieved when many work together as one, though not in a Geth sense.

And now, we have Spacer Shepard. This Shepard was the child of two Ranking Officers in the Alliance Fleet. Shepard's Father was a well Respected Admiral while his Mother was an Executive Officer and later Captain. Both of Shepard's parents raised him to believe that Humanity's greater destiny lay out in the Stars, and that to achieve this meant working alongside the other races of the Galaxy, not dominating them. Also, he was raised to see that life is important, and worth defending; this is shown especially if you picked the War Hero side story or did the Lt. Zabaleta side quest in ME1. Shepard would learn all of these things while moving from one Duty Station to another while his Parents were Deployed on Missions or Manuvers, and during this time Shepard would gain a great understanding and love of Space and the greater Galaxy. Now, no clear indication has been given as to the present status of Shepard's Father, though in ME1 he does mention "Both his Parents..." but there seems to be a strong indication that Shepard also Lost his Father, since his Mother Hannah seems to be a predominate part of his life.

Now, look upon both of these and can see that if 'any' of the Backstories would be most closely understood and embraced by Tali, it would have to be Spacer-War Hero Sheapard. Hope that shed some new light or food for thought.

[screwoffreg]

Gosh writing takes forever! How do you all do it. Its taking a lot out of me to finish my story and I am not sure it is any good It is less a Tali fanfic and more of an imagined ending to the series. I am not even sure it is any good, but I will let you all decide that soon...

[Lareit]

Wally2905 wrote...

Allright, some more speculation. What do you think will happen in ME3 with Shepards that had a love interest in ME1 and decided to drop it for Tali? How do you think that issue will resolve itself? I romanced Liara...Ash is a tad too militant for my taste (in hindsight It might be dangerous to dump that one).

Am I going to have to choose to have who do I want o keep on Normandy, or will coexistance be an option.?

Something else...do you think we will be able to have ME1 and ME2 crew, or will the number of slots be limited?

I'm hoping for atleast a small confrontation. I specifically went back and romanced Ash for the sole purpose of creating drama in the future. I could never romance liara, she came on too quickly and I'd feel much worse for splitting with her after all the stuff she went through to save Shepard.

As for coexistance, it's possible, though I imagine scenario's like that are how they're going to manage crew size limits in ME3. By using political, moral, and social events to force you to pick and choose who stays with you and who goes.

As a bonus, she Ash is slightly xenophobic, I imagine her finding you ditched her for Tali to be way more amusing too.

[MMA7FF]

AddoExAtrum wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

AddoExAtrum wrote...

@MMA7FF

*quickly picks pocket, steals napkin with phone number. grumbles when he sees number 555-555-5555*

hahahaha:pinched:
that was the decoy
ive hidden the real number in an undisclosed location:ph34r:

*loud snap echos through the forum as Addo puts on latex gloves* Time for the full body cavity search...

oh god no!
not that undisclosed location!

[MMA7FF]

hey TIM's back lol

[AddoExAtrum]

MMA7FF wrote...

AddoExAtrum wrote...


*loud snap echos through the forum as Addo puts on latex gloves* Time for the full body cavity search...

oh god no!
not that undisclosed location!

*Grins wickedly, almost like Grunt when he is thinking about dead turians and drags MMA off to a private sound proofed room*

[Spyndel]

AddoExAtrum wrote...


I figure they will add 2 new possibilities. Ash/Liara or Kaiden/Liara depending what you did in ME1. As for the love interest Liara I dont see being a problem Asari are used to single matings. Ash on the other hand tries to make up to you with a message after y ou meet her on horizon if she was your LI so that could be a problem

Just because she apologizes doesnt mean I dont have license to move on with no foul.  She dumped me.  When I needed her support.  I chose her for my import game deliberately because she is such a dire hosebeast, and I thought there might be some good drama to be had dumping the chick who hates aliens for the grooviest alien chick in the galaxy.

Modifié par Spyndel, 18 février 2010 - 08:13 .

[MMA7FF]

AddoExAtrum wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

AddoExAtrum wrote...


*loud snap echos through the forum as Addo puts on latex gloves* Time for the full body cavity search...

oh god no!
not that undisclosed location!

*Grins wickedly, almost like Grunt when he is thinking about dead turians and drags MMA off to a private sound proofed room*

alright ! you can have the number!
but its in a warehouse. being examined... by TOP men...
whos that?.... TOP... MEN...
hahaha *indian jones plug* lol

[Lareit]

I don't recall any information regarding tali's mother as a major figure in the migrant fleet. Nor do I recall her father ever being a scientist. Even regarding what he did on the Alarei it's a good chance he was simply overseeing it. The director more then an active tech.

Shepard lost his father in the spacer origin but I don't recall him ever being an admiral(i could be wrong though, spacer is my least favorite origin, so I only did it once)

Modifié par Lareit, 18 février 2010 - 08:14 .

[SteelEagleShane]

KFD;s epic masterpiece post, as google translate says it is in Japanese and then English again:

"Are welcome
Driving a truck load of good conversation, philosophical, screenshots, poetry,
Humor, praise and friendly camarderie / love for the persona of the talus.

Before I came to this moment you enter the flash.

We
We on the talus and she often speaks as if the enthusiasm of our fans
Religion; can not be truth. Off that description too. Otherwise
Short, simple words: We are a movement. Daily
Self "" returns a lot of familiar faces and some of us declared Talimancers
New. Enthusiasm and our dedication to this location will not be displayed
As an adjustment to go from day to day - quite contrary. And so is not,
This location. No, that is what has been unleashed by
Normandy deferens Tali'Zorah character creation. We trust that all
We are hurt, and if she is not living, breathing entity consciousness
Come to understand that. She said that her spirit had been ideal
Many of us in the back of my mind is what caused the dormant Rain - each
One of us, you are going to secretly craved recognition or
Daily routine and how it is in our fingertips We do not know the location yet
Recognize that it is missing something instinctive. We each shared
Once or another longing, which is common to share it
The bond forged between those who have been strengthened over the past
Few days later.

We have our family, regardless of the spirit of our age
Experience, our country's birth or mother tongue, so that similar
Has been awakened inside of us. But we had one of those rare opportunities
Glimpse into the life that some people find our inner
How is concluded that compared with the world around us
Regardless, can be good for our station in life. We should do.
Personally, I prefer the population group - is, as we can
Resonance already will improve the effectiveness of free
Will be created between us. This may sound melodramatic, but still
I believe that worship is clear mind and heart and earnest,
Tali'Zorah is a testament to enjoy the love of the character
There are so many people know by now, I love that red-hot burning
There is no darkness in our souls, in the back How much
You can turn off the grave. We so-called "Talimancers" called - terminology,
Half as a joke, because it may have started movements and
Clearly, for the first time in probably, please see to it that
There are good and large purely ephemeral material
Selfish pursuit. This is the value represented by deferens Tali'Zorah
To us that she only applied to Normandy, you can apply to them is not
Around us. We look at it - in truth, you can find a self-sacrificing love
Pure, brave and modest, thoughtful and powerful - and that's all.
What is worth working for. We are due to these reasons, each with
Our own individual ways Tali'Zorah we come to love, and they are
Reasons, the fine character of Normandy Tali'Zorah she has become
Slogan is a symbol."

Modifié par SteelEagleShane, 18 février 2010 - 08:14 .