28731 réponses à ce sujet

[Sensei Wuzi]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

ussbones wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

ussbones wrote...

Yeeeea... I created Shep, it's only fitting that I KEEL him, and steal Tali for myself. Muhahahaha

What? We know everything Shep knows... Not like he's needed anyway, he's only a puppet acting out our commands!

Knowing Shepard's story and actually being able to perform at the same peak levels as him are different things. Besides, how much of all that tech gear in ME would we actually be familiar with? None of it. Sure, in time we could probably learn how to use most of it but we'd be like students in a classroom.

ok ok.... so aswell as the machine and the magic tree we also create a device so we can learn all of Shepards knowledge, skill and experiences in seconds. Or somehow make the magic Pandora tree do it.

120% PROOF!

[Arrtis]

She should either prove her self to the quarians again or help prepare for ware finishing her fathers work or improve geth relations.

Not be a squadmate in ME3

[reteka]

She MUST be a squadmate in ME3, if not I won't buy it....

[The_KFD_Case]

MasterMegatron wrote...

Indie Thompson wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Indie Thompson wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Very true, though bear in mind that if we did enter the ME universe according to how we each played our Shepard, Tali would be interested in him and not us. Perhaps that could change with time. Perhaps not.

Agreed. We can certainly try, and luck between us will vary.

I like to think I could.

I like to think so too. Hope is eternal after all, right? Nothing worthwhile comes easy, and the one thing that is certain is that if you do not try, your chances of achieveing your goal are effectively nil.

Heh, i am sure i would have more luck then you would.

Confidence and actual ability are two very different things.

Umm, havent you heard of that wishful thinking ? You know, make yourself believe something and you can achieve it ? That is me. If you think you cant do it, you cant, but i believe that i can do it and because i believe i can.


Also yeah, i agree, i would not mind if Shep and Tali would stay together.

OOOORRRR.... Could it be that the alternate universe that one would go would have him as Shepard ?
You didnt think about that ? In that case we all would have Tali already with the Shepard who is you ?

Isnt that actually an even better though ?

Yeah, but half of the fun is the "thrill of the hunt. " If we already have her, we've lost the fun of getting her. Not nearly as rewarding.

There is that. I'd like to add that I would want Tali (and any other woman for that matter) to want to be with me because of me, the person I am, and not because they think I'm another person (in this case Shepard).

[Driving Ghost]

reteka wrote...

She MUST be a squadmate in ME3, if not I won't buy it....

Squadmate is not a super must... but if she is reduced to a role like Liara, Wrex or Kaidan/Ashley then I would write an angry formal letter...

[Indie Thompson]

MasterMegatron wrote...
Yeah, but half of the fun is the "thrill of the hunt. " If we already have her, we've lost the fun of getting her. Not nearly as rewarding.

*snip*

Well, havent we really already done the hunt anyway ?
But yeah, i know what you mean. It would be sweet to meet Tali for the first time
again and then start courting and everything..... That would be nice indeed.

Well, the other option would be that we would have to go to ME universe at the same 
time when ME1 starts. And take the place of Shepard just before we meet Tali.

[The_KFD_Case]

Sensei Wuzi wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

ussbones wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

ussbones wrote...

Yeeeea... I created Shep, it's only fitting that I KEEL him, and steal Tali for myself. Muhahahaha

What? We know everything Shep knows... Not like he's needed anyway, he's only a puppet acting out our commands!

Knowing Shepard's story and actually being able to perform at the same peak levels as him are different things. Besides, how much of all that tech gear in ME would we actually be familiar with? None of it. Sure, in time we could probably learn how to use most of it but we'd be like students in a classroom.

ok ok.... so aswell as the machine and the magic tree we also create a device so we can learn all of Shepards knowledge, skill and experiences in seconds. Or somehow make the magic Pandora tree do it.

120% PROOF!

[The_KFD_Case]

Indie Thompson wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...
Yeah, but half of the fun is the "thrill of the hunt. " If we already have her, we've lost the fun of getting her. Not nearly as rewarding.

*snip*

Well, havent we really already done the hunt anyway ?
But yeah, i know what you mean. It would be sweet to meet Tali for the first time
again and then start courting and everything..... That would be nice indeed.

Well, the other option would be that we would have to go to ME universe at the same 
time when ME1 starts. And take the place of Shepard just before we meet Tali.

Would there be an ME2 then? Or would the galaxy be half destroyed by then?

[The_KFD_Case]

reteka wrote...

She MUST be a squadmate in ME3, if not I won't buy it....

I'd still buy ME3 and likely enjoy it tremendously, yet I too very much want Tali to be a fully recruitable, romanceable character in the next game.

[Arrtis]

Tali had her role in ME and ME2 now she should mix in with the story and not be a squadmate.

[BComp272]

Tali is so great; it would be a crime to just drop her from ME3 

The question is, squadmate or not. There were some choices made in her trial that will obviously carry weight in ME3: encourage quarians to prepare for geth war, encourage them to pursue colonization, or stay out of their politics. I personally stayed out of it, but I have a feeling that the quarians will decide on their own to regain their homeworld. If that happens, you can bet Shepard (and thus Tali'Zorah VAS NORMANDY) will help out. Tali can get her house on the homeworld in the end.

Honestly though, I can't really nail down a reason for Tali to not be a squadmate again b/c of her name change and possible romantic attachment to Shepard. No matter what the quarians decide to do, Shepard would be willing to help them (at least a paragon would, idk about renegade), so I think Tali would have no reason to leave you. Here's hoping I'm right =d

Modifié par BComp272, 08 février 2010 - 05:08 .

[cdsmith0]

reteka wrote...

She MUST be a squadmate in ME3, if not I won't buy it....

I agree with you sir

[DarchAngelDavid]

Indie Thompson wrote...

cdsmith0 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Sensei Wuzi wrote...

For those who actually want to be making the love with Tali and see her face for real. If you believe in the Fictional Multiverse Dimension theory then all you have to do is create a machine that can transport you to the correct dimension and TADA! Your fighting everthing reapers can fling at you and making sweet love to Tali!

 

was just discussion factors in a human Quarin/Human relationship... have to take differences in to account.  Very  interesting  discussion how a dfferent  Races would view Genders roles in a relationship, very nice talk  in hypertheticals...  Not mentioning sex out of silly fanboy fantasy. Sex and Sexuality very import  in human interactions and psychological. Social creatures and very  sensory  oriented. we need the physical contact..   

Hell  even if you look at all the Ethnic Groups on Earth you will find differences in how we go about  male/female interactions. So when you dealing with a Race the evolved on  whole another world Social and Biologically... it makes for interest discussion. 

but  though the thought would be nice...  death would still be perment no reloading of game to  correct  mistake.. and  Tearing whole Space/time like that would probrally destory  this universe.

Agreed. To both the originally quoted post and the post following it.

If given the choice to jump through a portal right here, right now that was open for a short, limited period of time only in to the ME universe, or stay here in our reality.....A very tough decision I find. My family, friends, indeed everything I have known is here and yet my heart and mind are captivated by the ME universe. I do think one should keep in mind that what we see of the ME universe are the exciting, daring, scary, heroic parts. We don't get to see the "Private Johnson! Scrub those latrines once more! They're still filthy!", etc. moments. Nor do we get to spend hours by Shepard's side as he fumbles his way through confusing tax forms and other bureaucratic red tape (just like we do here in our reality). A lot of the same day-to-day activities would be similar and I would caution against underestimating this observation: Throughout our human history, while the physical form of themes have changed (ex. we've gone from riding horses to riding in cars as one of the main means of transportation), the fundamental principle behind it (i.e. transportation in this instance) remains unchanged. Think of it as a painter's canvas where the painter uses the same canvas over and over again as he/she paints new pictures on it.

That said....I think I'd regret it for the rest of my natural life if I had such an opportunity as to jump from our dimension/university in to ME's dimension/university (and not just in a metaphorical sense as is the case when we play the games). Conversely calling my parents and sister one last time to tell them I love them before leaving this universe and going to an alternate one would weigh heavily on my heart. There are marvels to behold in both universes and equally ferocious dangers to face as well. I suppose in the end it really does boil down to what we each make of our lives.

I am with you man....i would give up everything if i could get transported to the ME universe.

I am with both of you there. Come on, how awesome would it be to meet Tali ?
That alone would be worth it. 

Judging by the state I am in now I would have to say going wouldn't take a second thought. Sure you have to deal with the same stuff that goes down here everyday but you also get to live out things that would never happen here. You get to fly around in space and meet new races and possibly have some serious adventure. While I do love Tali very much who is to say she would fall in love with you, but chances are that maybe another very cool Quarian would keep you warm at night. It would be even cooler though if you entered their universe at a time where you have precognitive knowledge of what events will transpire. Then you would become of value to Shepards crew and can take part in the adventure of a life time. Yep I would dive right into that portal and live out my days doing what others can only dream of.

[Indie Thompson]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Indie Thompson wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...
Yeah, but half of the fun is the "thrill of the hunt. " If we already have her, we've lost the fun of getting her. Not nearly as rewarding.

*snip*

Well, havent we really already done the hunt anyway ?
But yeah, i know what you mean. It would be sweet to meet Tali for the first time
again and then start courting and everything..... That would be nice indeed.

Well, the other option would be that we would have to go to ME universe at the same 
time when ME1 starts. And take the place of Shepard just before we meet Tali.

Would there be an ME2 then? Or would the galaxy be half destroyed by then?

Yeah, that i can NOT know. But really, because we would be Shepard, we would be kinda like
Jason Bourne. You know, amnesia bit. We would know instinctively what to do and how to use
the equipment because we have those skills from the original Shepard. It would just take time 
until we realize exactly how to do the things we need to/have to do. But we could still do it.

Plus, we would know what would come because we have seen it before. And thus giving us 
and upper hand against every enemy we would encounter.

[Sleepicub09]

reteka wrote...

She MUST be a squadmate in ME3, if not I won't buy it....

I'll still buy it but I'll be highly upset

[crimsoncobra57]

The_KFD_Case wrote...
I'd still buy ME3 and likely enjoy it tremendously, yet I too very much want Tali to be a fully recruitable, romanceable character in the next game.

I'll still buy it as well. But even if it turns out to be a mind-blowing experience, and awe-inspiring storytelling; I will always consider it a flawed game if there is no, or very little Tali. She is a major part of the experience for me at this point, and It's not Mass Effect without her.

[Garlador]

Arrtis wrote...

Tali had her role in ME and ME2 now she should mix in with the story and not be a squadmate.

"Had her role"? Whose to say her role is over!

I see ME3 being a recruitment mission like ME2... just on a galactic scale, trying to convince every race to band together to fight the Reaper threat. And to do so, he'll need the best representative of each race by his side... which would include Tali for the Quarian people.

Besides that, Tali herself is a crewmember of the Normandy. Her name is "Vas Normandy". After pining for Shepard for 2 years, I don't see her easily sitting out on the action or taking up a role in politics. There is NO reason she can't be mixed into the story and play a pivotal role for her people, yet be next to Shepard every step of the way.

After all, she's gone to hell and back with him twice now, when even some of his previous love interests doubted him, so I see absolutely no reason for her to ditch him, not when the Normandy itself is her home now.

[The_KFD_Case]

ussbones wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

ussbones wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

ussbones wrote...

Yeeeea... I created Shep, it's only fitting that I KEEL him, and steal Tali for myself. Muhahahaha

What? We know everything Shep knows... Not like he's needed anyway, he's only a puppet acting out our commands!

Knowing Shepard's story and actually being able to perform at the same peak levels as him are different things. Besides, how much of all that tech gear in ME would we actually be familiar with? None of it. Sure, in time we could probably learn how to use most of it but we'd be like students in a classroom.

Speak for yourself, I'm a quick learner haha, besides their tech isn't THAT far ahead of us in some areas. We already have displays on falling water, wouldn't be TOO difficult to learn how to use a display made out of light. Plus, I know someone with one of those Light Keyboards, it's pretty fun to play with.

Not that far ahead? Their technology is centuries ahead; the Prothean discovery took care of that. Like I already stated, I think we could learn to use the technology because we are human afterall and hail from a time where certain pivotal discoveries and mental/physiological developments have already taken place. I doubt it would just be a matter of "Oh yeah! Three days and I've got ME tech, history and cultural nuances down pat!" Those sorts of things take time. Just try to integrate in to a modern day society today and experience the effort and time that requires. Now multiply that by the passage of time and developments in the ME universe.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 08 février 2010 - 05:09 .

[Arrtis]

I forsee a 3 disc game for ME3 if you really want them to include everything and have them be in a important and interactive role.

[cdsmith0]

Arrtis wrote...

Tali had her role in ME and ME2 now she should mix in with the story and not be a squadmate.

Just a heads up you are going to be argueing with tali lovers here......It isnt going to go anywhere.

[thepyro13]

Shades_Shady wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Sensei Wuzi wrote...

For those who actually want to be making the love with Tali and see her face for real. If you believe in the Fictional Multiverse Dimension theory then all you have to do is create a machine that can transport you to the correct dimension and TADA! Your fighting everthing reapers can fling at you and making sweet love to Tali!

 

was just discussion factors in a human Quarin/Human relationship... have to take differences in to account.  Very  interesting  discussion how a dfferent  Races would view Genders roles in a relationship, very nice talk  in hypertheticals...  Not mentioning sex out of silly fanboy fantasy. Sex and Sexuality very import  in human interactions and psychological. Social creatures and very  sensory  oriented. we need the physical contact..   

Hell  even if you look at all the Ethnic Groups on Earth you will find differences in how we go about  male/female interactions. So when you dealing with a Race the evolved on  whole another world Social and Biologically... it makes for interest discussion. 

but  though the thought would be nice...  death would still be perment no reloading of game to  correct  mistake.. and  Tearing whole Space/time like that would probrally destory  this universe.

Agreed. To both the originally quoted post and the post following it.

If given the choice to jump through a portal right here, right now that was open for a short, limited period of time only in to the ME universe, or stay here in our reality.....A very tough decision I find. My family, friends, indeed everything I have known is here and yet my heart and mind are captivated by the ME universe. I do think one should keep in mind that what we see of the ME universe are the exciting, daring, scary, heroic parts. We don't get to see the "Private Johnson! Scrub those latrines once more! They're still filthy!", etc. moments. Nor do we get to spend hours by Shepard's side as he fumbles his way through confusing tax forms and other bureaucratic red tape (just like we do here in our reality). A lot of the same day-to-day activities would be similar and I would caution against underestimating this observation: Throughout our human history, while the physical form of themes have changed (ex. we've gone from riding horses to riding in cars as one of the main means of transportation), the fundamental principle behind it (i.e. transportation in this instance) remains unchanged. Think of it as a painter's canvas where the painter uses the same canvas over and over again as he/she paints new pictures on it.

That said....I think I'd regret it for the rest of my natural life if I had such an opportunity as to jump from our dimension/university in to ME's dimension/university (and not just in a metaphorical sense as is the case when we play the games) and didn't seize the moment. Conversely calling my parents and sister one last time to tell them I love them before leaving this universe and going to an alternate one would weigh heavily on my heart. There are marvels to behold in both universes and equally ferocious dangers to face as well. I suppose in the end it really does boil down to what we each make of our lives.

I'd leave a note and leave. I'd never return.

I'd be on the first one-way portal to the Flotilla and chill with the QUarians

[The_KFD_Case]

Arrtis wrote...

Tali had her role in ME and ME2 now she should mix in with the story and not be a squadmate.

I respectfully disagree.

[DarchAngelDavid]

Indie Thompson wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...
Yeah, but half of the fun is the "thrill of the hunt. " If we already have her, we've lost the fun of getting her. Not nearly as rewarding.

*snip*

Well, havent we really already done the hunt anyway ?
But yeah, i know what you mean. It would be sweet to meet Tali for the first time
again and then start courting and everything..... That would be nice indeed.

Well, the other option would be that we would have to go to ME universe at the same 
time when ME1 starts. And take the place of Shepard just before we meet Tali.

Yeah that would be the real way to go.  The best part would be that we knew what was coming and could save the day easier.  Wait that wouldnt be the best part.  The best part would be that we could get with Tali from the start and not waste 2 + years without her.

[The_KFD_Case]

Arrtis wrote...

I forsee a 3 disc game for ME3 if you really want them to include everything and have them be in a important and interactive role.

I play ME games on my gaming PC. Disc count is irrelevant given the size of my hard drive and that I will only need the first installation disc in my disc drive while playing the game.

Besides, ever try playing "Final Fantasy 7" or "Baldur's Gate II" back in the day? They came with multiple discs and had to be switched (even on the PCs at the time), and while a bit of a bother it certainly wasn't enough to ruin the game experience. Laziness begone!

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 08 février 2010 - 05:20 .

[cdsmith0]

Well duh....of course it will be like 3 discs.....BIOWARE has said the game will be huge to include everything.