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you think cerberus would kidnap tali?I doubt it.TIM doesnt have good enough people to do it.


Yes, because Jacob and Miranda were totally incompetent and the only good Cerberus agents TIM ever had so Cerberus is now totally powerless without them.

why didnt tim send them over to you to help with the suicide mission then?seems like tali is safe.


Sarcasm. It just flew by your head. :P

but to be honest, Cerberus just can't compete with Shepard.

considering he's familiar with his crew, it'd be awful hard to kidnap Tali(or any LI) from right under his nose.

Also, WOW @ the utter success of Tali support. bioware would stupid to ignore this. :P


Shep would probably kill any Cerberus operatives before they got within 20 feet of anyone. Also lets not call Bioware potentially stupid, I sense a Stanley Woo in the shadows

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The_KFD_Case wrote...

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I had a bad thought what if tali's role was reduce to npc and depending on your choices she either stays vas normandy or becomes Admiral Tali


Anything is possible regarding the story of ME3, even if it broke with the existing storyline and didn't make sense. However, BioWare have a long history of being far too proficient and professional with their storytelling to opt for such a course.

Given Tali's role in ME1 and how it changes in ME2, I have little doubt that she will be back in ME3 as a party member and romantic interest. In other words, I do not think Tali will be permanently removed from our party in ME3 even if she were to be made a Quarian admiral (and if she were it might not even result in her leaving the party at any point).


Concur. Doubt she would leave Shepard, even as an Admiral.

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Would make sense for her to become an admiral but more likely to happen at the end of me 3.


unless the geth are ready to leave like legion said they are, in which case their wont be aa need for the admiralty board as it is now, though she may become the leader of her people in whatever government they establish on the homeworld


Doesn't Legion confirm that the Geth aren't even occupying the world, in fact they've been repairing it and tending to it as "caretakers" in order to reverse the damage of the Geth/Quarian war. In all honesty, after 300 years of geth work, the Quarians would most likely return to a pretty well kept homeworld. That is, if they can swallow thier pride and broker a peace.

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Print screen as default. Other way if you don't want to use fraps would be using xfire


print screen doesnt really work. more often than not it caps a black screen


Yes, I've discovered that much to my chagrin. :mellow:


you can get a free copy of fraps, if screenshots are your only conncern. it doesnt do anything to your computer (at least as far as ive seen), though it can slow your pc down a bit if you used the vid cap  function


Cheers. I downloaded Fraps yesterday but apparently there is a fatal error caused by my 64-bit version of Windows 7 (even though the Fraps download was stated as being compatiable with Windows 7) which prevents the download from fully installing. Any advice?


Im running Win7 Home Premium 64-bit and it works fine, whatr you running?

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videowiz186 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

I had a bad thought what if tali's role was reduce to npc and depending on your choices she either stays vas normandy or becomes Admiral Tali


Anything is possible regarding the story of ME3, even if it broke with the existing storyline and didn't make sense. However, BioWare have a long history of being far too proficient and professional with their storytelling to opt for such a course.

Given Tali's role in ME1 and how it changes in ME2, I have little doubt that she will be back in ME3 as a party member and romantic interest. In other words, I do not think Tali will be permanently removed from our party in ME3 even if she were to be made a Quarian admiral (and if she were it might not even result in her leaving the party at any point).


Concur. Doubt she would leave Shepard, even as an Admiral.


How bout Admiral Tali'Zorah vas Normandy?

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Judging by the state I am in now I would have to say going wouldn't take a second thought. Sure you have to deal with the same stuff that goes down here everyday but you also get to live out things that would never happen here. You get to fly around in space and meet new races and possibly have some serious adventure. While I do love Tali very much who is to say she would fall in love with you, but chances are that maybe another very cool Quarian would keep you warm at night. It would be even cooler though if you entered their universe at a time where you have precognitive knowledge of what events will transpire. Then you would become of value to Shepards crew and can take part in the adventure of a life time. Yep I would dive right into that portal and live out my days doing what others can only dream of.



That could be fascinating. It would also raise questions as to how much influence individual actions can affect the scenario. Say we pop in to the ME universe and inform Shepard that it's all going to be fine because A, B, and C. The good Cmdr. Shepard then decides to take it just a little bit more relaxed during an encounter and BAM! Suddenly an even that was pre-determined apparently changes due to changes in the "building blocks" involved due to our input which wasn't there before.


While something like this could happen we as gamers have become very quick thinkers and are able to deal with unknowns very well.  Just think about all the training we have received and didnt even realize it though years of gaming.  I think we can deal with the things that change on the fly and deal with the amount of actual time that goes by in their world.  Heck all I see is more time to speak with Tali and learn about their tech while building a relationship under the good commanders nose.  He can hang out down stair with Jack.


I'm not convinced. Consider this: When you deal with situations in your current real life, do you always feel and actually have the same oversight of the situation as you do when sitting behind the screen issuing commands for the team? Being in the thick of it changes the perspective even if you are quick on the fly. Besides, we aren't omniscient in our own reality and it's highly doubtful we would become so once we transferred over to the ME universe's reality.

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TheSorrow1175 wrote...

videowiz186 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

I had a bad thought what if tali's role was reduce to npc and depending on your choices she either stays vas normandy or becomes Admiral Tali


Anything is possible regarding the story of ME3, even if it broke with the existing storyline and didn't make sense. However, BioWare have a long history of being far too proficient and professional with their storytelling to opt for such a course.

Given Tali's role in ME1 and how it changes in ME2, I have little doubt that she will be back in ME3 as a party member and romantic interest. In other words, I do not think Tali will be permanently removed from our party in ME3 even if she were to be made a Quarian admiral (and if she were it might not even result in her leaving the party at any point).


Concur. Doubt she would leave Shepard, even as an Admiral.


How bout Admiral Tali'Zorah vas Normandy?


Good point. Admirals do have ships to call home.

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TheSorrow1175 wrote...

videowiz186 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

I had a bad thought what if tali's role was reduce to npc and depending on your choices she either stays vas normandy or becomes Admiral Tali


Anything is possible regarding the story of ME3, even if it broke with the existing storyline and didn't make sense. However, BioWare have a long history of being far too proficient and professional with their storytelling to opt for such a course.

Given Tali's role in ME1 and how it changes in ME2, I have little doubt that she will be back in ME3 as a party member and romantic interest. In other words, I do not think Tali will be permanently removed from our party in ME3 even if she were to be made a Quarian admiral (and if she were it might not even result in her leaving the party at any point).


Concur. Doubt she would leave Shepard, even as an Admiral.


How bout Admiral Tali'Zorah vas Normandy?


Works for me! Now all she has to do is beat Shepard at arm wrestling or a game of cards in order to win the rights to the Normandy!:D....He's got reach. She's got flexibility.

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The_KFD_Case wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

I had a bad thought what if tali's role was reduce to npc and depending on your choices she either stays vas normandy or becomes Admiral Tali


Anything is possible regarding the story of ME3, even if it broke with the existing storyline and didn't make sense. However, BioWare have a long history of being far too proficient and professional with their storytelling to opt for such a course.

Given Tali's role in ME1 and how it changes in ME2, I have little doubt that she will be back in ME3 as a party member and romantic interest. In other words, I do not think Tali will be permanently removed from our party in ME3 even if she were to be made a Quarian admiral (and if she were it might not even result in her leaving the party at any point).


I think if she was not exiled in your game she will become an admiral in ME3 but I think you will still be in a relationship with her.  If that is the case then your views on if they should fight the geth or not might become the turning point of if she stays with you or not.  Tali as of right now is still up in the air about fighting for the home world and trying to build up again so this would be an interresting story element.  Either way I will side with her and hot anyone that gives her an issue.  If the story calls for her to leave the party I will be upset but I would understand as long as they respect my decisions from ME2 and keep our love strong.  Well that and show her on screen as much as possible.

Tali for the win! Keelah se'lai

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lets minimize those pyramids please.

Tali really should be a npc instead of a squad mate.

when he breaks up legion and tali with paragon method he says he needs them at thier best for the reapers.I imagine tali being killable in ME2 will equal to her having a role with the quarian fleet preping them for war while you go off with new guys to other places as you collect an army.It would help BW making the game so they do not have to include too many things in one game.You could still keep your relationship with her like the consort but more intimate.

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I hope she won't become a Admiral and stays with you.

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Doumeki wrote...

TheSorrow1175 wrote...

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Would make sense for her to become an admiral but more likely to happen at the end of me 3.


unless the geth are ready to leave like legion said they are, in which case their wont be aa need for the admiralty board as it is now, though she may become the leader of her people in whatever government they establish on the homeworld


Doesn't Legion confirm that the Geth aren't even occupying the world, in fact they've been repairing it and tending to it as "caretakers" in order to reverse the damage of the Geth/Quarian war. In all honesty, after 300 years of geth work, the Quarians would most likely return to a pretty well kept homeworld. That is, if they can swallow thier pride and broker a peace.


Correct. This does hinge on the presumption that Legion is being truthful though. Personally I'm taking it at its word, but I have no hard, empirical data to support the claims it made on that count.

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Im running Win7 Home Premium 64-bit and it works fine, whatr you running?


The same.

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Hey hey Tali lovers. Just finding the time to send a quick shout out to my brothers and sisters while on duty. Oh, and the RSM's a ******. Definitely not a Tali lover...

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"Admiral Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy" doesn't sound good to my ears.



Now, "Queen Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy"... that's better.

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Arrtis wrote...

lets minimize those pyramids please.
Tali really should be a npc instead of a squad mate.
when he breaks up legion and tali with paragon method he says he needs them at thier best for the reapers.I imagine tali being killable in ME2 will equal to her having a role with the quarian fleet preping them for war while you go off with new guys to other places as you collect an army.It would help BW making the game so they do not have to include too many things in one game.You could still keep your relationship with her like the consort but more intimate.


Bioware already said they WANT to go nuts with variables in ME3. And there is zero reason she would leave Shepard, again, unless he died. Again.

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The_KFD_Case wrote...

Doumeki wrote...

TheSorrow1175 wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

Would make sense for her to become an admiral but more likely to happen at the end of me 3.


unless the geth are ready to leave like legion said they are, in which case their wont be aa need for the admiralty board as it is now, though she may become the leader of her people in whatever government they establish on the homeworld


Doesn't Legion confirm that the Geth aren't even occupying the world, in fact they've been repairing it and tending to it as "caretakers" in order to reverse the damage of the Geth/Quarian war. In all honesty, after 300 years of geth work, the Quarians would most likely return to a pretty well kept homeworld. That is, if they can swallow thier pride and broker a peace.


Correct. This does hinge on the presumption that Legion is being truthful though. Personally I'm taking it at its word, but I have no hard, empirical data to support the claims it made on that count.


 and go to 4:08.

Legion says what he thinks about peace between the creators and the geth.

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Tali has to be in ME3 and it has to be a happy ending with her and Shepard. Nothing else will be acceptable.

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Webkahve wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

I had a bad thought what if tali's role was reduce to npc and depending on your choices she either stays vas normandy or becomes Admiral Tali


isn't she too young to be an admiral?


She is very young to be made an admiral. Also, while Tila is no slouch and certainly has much "hands-on" ground side field experience she has not lead a ship, let alone a fleet, and commanding a small squad - while not without merit - is not the same size of task. It would be far more realistic for Tali to be viewed as admiral-material which still needs some training and experience. All in due time.

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Still think Bioware is gonna get lazy somewhere...Or we gonna have if you chose this path put in dis 8 if you chose this other path put in disc 3.

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Arrtis wrote...

lets minimize those pyramids please.
Tali really should be a npc instead of a squad mate.
when he breaks up legion and tali with paragon method he says he needs them at thier best for the reapers.I imagine tali being killable in ME2 will equal to her having a role with the quarian fleet preping them for war while you go off with new guys to other places as you collect an army.It would help BW making the game so they do not have to include too many things in one game.You could still keep your relationship with her like the consort but more intimate.


I still diasgree. It is doubtful that there is any argument you can present that will persuade me to not want Tali as an active party member and romanceable character in ME3.

As for the notion that BioWare wanting to keep too many things out of the game, well yes, there is such a thing as too much of a good thing. Yet this is the final hurrah for Shepard. BioWare has already confirmed that they do not plan on spending time on engine updates, etc. for ME3 (not that it needs it gauging by ME2's appearance) and will instead focus on the story. BioWare also consistently want each new game of theirs to be their "best game", surpassing previous games they've made. All the signs point to ME3 being a monster of a gaming story experience. Throwing in a massive quest line involving the resolution of the centuries old conflict between the Geth and the Quarians would work well, and it could also be used towards the main plot of defeating the Reapers by recruiting them. This has already been hinted at in ME2 when Legion mentions that the Geth oppose the Reapers and that it would be mutually beneficial for the Geth and Shepard to join forces. In DA:O the player was invited to build a multi-faction alliance to oppose a great, common threat. The same appears to be occuring in ME2 which I expect will come to a full-head in ME3.

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Arrtis wrote...

Still think Bioware is gonna get lazy somewhere...Or we gonna have if you chose this path put in dis 8 if you chose this other path put in disc 3.


Gross exaggeration, it doesn't take that much disc space for some voice overs.

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Judging by the state I am in now I would have to say going wouldn't take a second thought. Sure you have to deal with the same stuff that goes down here everyday but you also get to live out things that would never happen here. You get to fly around in space and meet new races and possibly have some serious adventure. While I do love Tali very much who is to say she would fall in love with you, but chances are that maybe another very cool Quarian would keep you warm at night. It would be even cooler though if you entered their universe at a time where you have precognitive knowledge of what events will transpire. Then you would become of value to Shepards crew and can take part in the adventure of a life time. Yep I would dive right into that portal and live out my days doing what others can only dream of.



That could be fascinating. It would also raise questions as to how much influence individual actions can affect the scenario. Say we pop in to the ME universe and inform Shepard that it's all going to be fine because A, B, and C. The good Cmdr. Shepard then decides to take it just a little bit more relaxed during an encounter and BAM! Suddenly an even that was pre-determined apparently changes due to changes in the "building blocks" involved due to our input which wasn't there before.


While something like this could happen we as gamers have become very quick thinkers and are able to deal with unknowns very well.  Just think about all the training we have received and didnt even realize it though years of gaming.  I think we can deal with the things that change on the fly and deal with the amount of actual time that goes by in their world.  Heck all I see is more time to speak with Tali and learn about their tech while building a relationship under the good commanders nose.  He can hang out down stair with Jack.


I'm not convinced. Consider this: When you deal with situations in your current real life, do you always feel and actually have the same oversight of the situation as you do when sitting behind the screen issuing commands for the team? Being in the thick of it changes the perspective even if you are quick on the fly. Besides, we aren't omniscient in our own reality and it's highly doubtful we would become so once we transferred over to the ME universe's reality.



No one is but that doesn't stop you form dealing with all your day to day things. That is why training is so important. Some things become second nature and we still need to take into account that if we go and end up in a time where we do have knowledge of the future we still have an upper hand that you wouldn't have in your normal day to day life. If knowledge is power then you have become one of the most powerful people there is in the MEU and how you use it can determine everything. I wouldn't lay out all my cards and cause such change to take effect. It would be better just to make sure everyone is prepared for each encounter. Now the real kicker is if you can survive the fire fights that take place around every corner and if you would still let the first Normandy take a nose dive knowing what you know. Even if a handful of events would change the bigger pictures wouldn't and I think that will still give you an upper hand. Combine that with good old fashion know how and I don't see anything that can't be dealt with. When I was in the army I learned to keep my wits about me. Now when I am in the office work place that rule still stands. Some people may not be able to deal but I don't see myself at least having a problem.

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The_KFD_Case wrote...

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Im running Win7 Home Premium 64-bit and it works fine, whatr you running?


The same.


well that is just bloody unusual, try reinstalling it from scratch

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Driving Ghost wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Doumeki wrote...

TheSorrow1175 wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

Would make sense for her to become an admiral but more likely to happen at the end of me 3.


unless the geth are ready to leave like legion said they are, in which case their wont be aa need for the admiralty board as it is now, though she may become the leader of her people in whatever government they establish on the homeworld


Doesn't Legion confirm that the Geth aren't even occupying the world, in fact they've been repairing it and tending to it as "caretakers" in order to reverse the damage of the Geth/Quarian war. In all honesty, after 300 years of geth work, the Quarians would most likely return to a pretty well kept homeworld. That is, if they can swallow thier pride and broker a peace.


Correct. This does hinge on the presumption that Legion is being truthful though. Personally I'm taking it at its word, but I have no hard, empirical data to support the claims it made on that count.


 and go to 4:08.

Legion says what he thinks about peace between the creators and the geth.


Take legion on Tali's loyalty mission and talk to Admiral Korinth (the jerk, in case I got the name wrong). He'll ask Legion about peace, and the geth seem more concerned that the Quarians will betray them, based on past experience.

"When the creators believed victory was possible, they have attacked us 100% of the time"