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All Tali fans, read this! IT'S UP TO US TO KEEP TALI ALIVE! 2.0!!


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Xena_Shepard

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Alanosborn1991 wrote...

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Very acceptable indeed! She looks like Raven from Teen Titans. =o

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*hops back in*



So where were we?

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Xena_Shepard wrote...

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Xena_Shepard wrote...

They're MACHINES! They might be self-aware but they feel nothing. >.<


Exactly. Which makes the 'peaceful resolution' that much easier to attain. The Quarians simply need to understand that the Geth have no feelings of remorse, hatred, or revenge. They just need to find a conclusion that benefits both sides.


They need to reach a peaceful and mutually useful agreement.
And i am sure that the geth are willing to work something out.
They are all about the logic, while quarians are still pretty emotional about everything that happened.


Let's put it this way, if your toaster, which is a damn machine, suddenly rose up and kicked you out of your own home, how would that make you feel?

The fact that the Geth are soulless machines doesn't seem to be getting across well to you people, them being self-aware doesn't make them people or give them souls or feelings, it simply means they KNOW they exist.


Hm. So what exactly is it about us organics that proves we have a soul? We are aware that we exist and we appear to conclude that this means we have souls despite having no empirical evidence to validate it. One could argue we are nothing more than an unlikely formula of chemical signals, flashes of nerve endings sheltered by flesh and supported by bones.

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Alanosborn1991 wrote...

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OH SNAP!


Hahahahaha!!! I love Bioware...

Hey guys good job with these threads, I´ve been reading them since you first posted at the legendary +9000!!!. Tali would be really grateful for all you´re doing :).

Keep it up!!! Keelah Se'lai.

* Thanks a lot for making those .gifs, they´re awesome ^_^.

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Xena_Shepard wrote...

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

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Some Deviantart of what some people think she looks like


Very acceptable indeed! She looks like Raven from Teen Titans. =o


Haha. I would be pale. With lust. :devil:

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Guys, quote less, please. We don't want another world-consuming-quotebox.

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Rip504 wrote...

There is no proof the Geth are willing to hand over the worlds,why not have done so by now?
Nor is there any proof the Quarians would get crushed.I agree it wouldn't be easy,but no proof to what your saying.


They haven't done so by now, because as Legion stated if you take him along on Tali's loyalty mission, that everytime quarians and geth have met, the quarians responded with hostility.

Legion said peace with the quarians is possible if they would pursue it.

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Xena_Shepard wrote...

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

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Some Deviantart of what some people think she looks like


Very acceptable indeed! She looks like Raven from Teen Titans. =o


Haha. I would be pale. With lust. :devil:

urrgh, sorry guys.

Modifié par mothbanquet, 08 février 2010 - 10:54 .


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The_KFD_Case wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Indie Thompson wrote...

GuyWithFace wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

They're MACHINES! They might be self-aware but they feel nothing. >.<


Exactly. Which makes the 'peaceful resolution' that much easier to attain. The Quarians simply need to understand that the Geth have no feelings of remorse, hatred, or revenge. They just need to find a conclusion that benefits both sides.


They need to reach a peaceful and mutually useful agreement.
And i am sure that the geth are willing to work something out.
They are all about the logic, while quarians are still pretty emotional about everything that happened.


Let's put it this way, if your toaster, which is a damn machine, suddenly rose up and kicked you out of your own home, how would that make you feel?

The fact that the Geth are soulless machines doesn't seem to be getting across well to you people, them being self-aware doesn't make them people or give them souls or feelings, it simply means they KNOW they exist.


Hm. So what exactly is it about us organics that proves we have a soul? We are aware that we exist and we appear to conclude that this means we have souls despite having no empirical evidence to validate it.


Here we go...
*watches Tali sigh/facepalm, like when Shepard asked about Qwib-Qwib's name*

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Xena_Shepard wrote...

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

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Some Deviantart of what some people think she looks like


Very acceptable indeed! She looks like Raven from Teen Titans. =o

Thats it! I been trying to place the similarity for a couple of days now. Thank you for figuring it out.

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we love you tali

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dambass crappy comp

Edit:wow it actually let me spell that out

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Don't get me wrong here, Tali is one of my (if not the) favourite characters in ME. She was pretty much my only choice for an LI for my Shepard, and I really like the quarians as a species.

But I find it hard to take their side VS the Geth. The event that started the whole thing was a geth platform demonstrating self-awareness by asking its master 'Do I have a soul?'

That's it. No agression shown at this point whatsoever. If the quarian master had simply replied 'erm...No you don't, but hey you have more intelligence now, good on you. Let's chat' the whole thing could probably have been avoided and the quarian and geth could probably have co-existed peacefully.

But no, the quarians panicked and attempted to wipe out the geth. The geth merely responded in self defence.

I still took Tali's side in the argument, but I was playing a Shep who didn't want Legion within hacking distance of the ships comms either so it'd have been a bit hyprocritical for him to pass over Tali's omni-tool.

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Alanosborn1991 wrote...

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Red vs Blue guys are having trouble finding some love LOL



Haha this is how I was. I'd talk to them all after every mission, then thought "Bioware wouldn't add 20+ conversations to have with each member".

Anyone else get screwed up by Miranda saying "You need someone who commands loyalty through experience". I chose Samara cuz she's 1000 years old, how could she not command loyalty through experience? Thanks Miranda if not for you stupid line I would have thought for myself.

I also must add that before I got my ME2 on opening day, I shaved my head and buzz-cut a "scar" on my left forehead just like Shepard. I oughta send a picture of myself cuz I resemble Shepard (blue eyes, nicely shaped skull :P). Anyone else go to extreme nerdiness for this game to feel more connected to it? Cuz I swear if I still had my long hair I wouldn't have felt nearly as much like Shepard.

So I guess all I need is a N7 suit and I'm an official cosplayer?

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Xena_Shepard wrote...

Let's put it this way, if your toaster, which is a damn machine, suddenly rose up and kicked you out of your own home, how would that make you feel?

I would probably regret abusing it so much, especialy that one time... nvm, its best to not repeat it. *shudders at the thought*

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Mokthr wrote...

They haven't done so by now, because as Legion stated if you take him along on Tali's loyalty mission, that everytime quarians and geth have met, the quarians responded with hostility.

Legion said peace with the quarians is possible if they would pursue it.


This.

And it's said somewhere in the game that any manufacturing plants on the Migrant Fleet that could be used for armaments and other military-related items had been converted for agriculture and food processing. So, we know that they have little ability to wage a war.

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Sockwolf wrote...

That's it. No agression shown at this point whatsoever. If the quarian master had simply replied 'erm...No you don't, but hey you have more intelligence now, good on you. Let's chat' the whole thing could probably have been avoided and the quarian and geth could probably have co-existed peacefully.

But no, the quarians panicked and attempted to wipe out the geth. The geth merely responded in self defence.

I still took Tali's side in the argument, but I was playing a Hep who didn't want Legion within hacking distance of the ships comms either so it'd have been a bit hyprocritical for him to pass over Tali's omni-tool.


Sometimes you have to make the wrong decisions to be right.

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Sockwolf wrote...

Don't get me wrong here, Tali is one of my (if not the) favourite characters in ME. She was pretty much my only choice for an LI for my Shepard, and I really like the quarians as a species.

But I find it hard to take their side VS the Geth. The event that started the whole thing was a gath platform demonstrating self-awareness by asking it's master 'Do I have a soul?'

That's it. No agression shown at this point whatsoever. If the quarian master had simply replied 'erm...No you don't, but hey you have more intelligence now, good on you. Let's chat' the whole thing could probably have been avoided and the quarian and geth could probably have co-existed peacefully.

But no, the quarians panicked and attempted to wipe out the geth. The geth merely responded in self defence.

I still took Tali's side in the argument, but I was playing a Hep who didn't want Legion within hacking distance of the ships comms either so it'd have been a bit hyprocritical for him to pass over Tali's omni-tool.


There's a a neutral way of doing this, at least for me. You basically defend Legion by using a metaphor concerning the Quarians, and Tali basically agrees and gives Legion a "little" bit of info. Being a full Paragon definitely helps.

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Vaenier wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Let's put it this way, if your toaster, which is a damn machine, suddenly rose up and kicked you out of your own home, how would that make you feel?

I would probably regret abusing it so much, especialy that one time... nvm, its best to not repeat it. *shudders at the thought*


Hahaaaaa :D

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Xena_Shepard wrote...

Azriel86 wrote...

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Xena_Shepard wrote...

They're MACHINES! They might be self-aware but they feel nothing. >.<


Exactly. Which makes the 'peaceful resolution' that much easier to attain. The Quarians simply need to understand that the Geth have no feelings of remorse, hatred, or revenge. They just need to find a conclusion that benefits both sides.


They need to reach a peaceful and mutually useful agreement.
And i am sure that the geth are willing to work something out.
They are all about the logic, while quarians are still pretty emotional about everything that happened.


The beauty of Mass Effect is that you probably do either. If you want to help the quarians exterminate the geth then Bioware will probably let us. Or if you want to help them reach a peaceful arrangement, Bioware will probably let us do that too. They'll probably even let us help the geth to destroy the quarians.
Mass Effect. You gotta love it :D


The quarians?? HERESY! Tali would definetely hate you for that.

I don't just love Tali, I like the quarians too...I guess because seeing a quarian female makes me think of my sweet Tali. : < *needs her Tali*


Tali freely offers Legion non-classified information about the Flotilla and gives her accept of it sending it back to the Geth collective consciousness if you have a high enough Paragon factor during their stand-off. I don't doubt that our lovely Tali and her Quarian compatriots have strong feelings regarding the Geth, and yes, I do think both sides have blood on their hands, so isn't it time to settle the matter? And if the matter can be settled without any more loss of Quarian life which is harder to replace than the Geth who simply transfer in to a hub and use another mobile platform (an indicator that a war of attrition greatly favours the Geth incidentally), shouldn't that course of action be considered? There is a time and place for letting go of misplaced pride and accepting that sometimes, no matter how justified one may feel, more angry responses will not soothe old wounds but shall instead tear them deeper with all the ensuing loss that entails. That is not a formula for "victory". It is however a splendid way to overshoot a cliff edge and find yourself high and dry.

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Goat_Shepard wrote...
 I oughta send a picture of myself cuz I resemble Shepard (blue eyes, nicely shaped skull :P). Anyone else go to extreme nerdiness for this game to feel more connected to it? Cuz I swear if I still had my long hair I wouldn't have felt nearly as much like Shepard.


Do it! You've piqued my curiousity.

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Alright well I guess I should go and do my homework.

Cya later guys. If anyone still didn't see my video, well, here... click

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-Tali and Shep visit the Migrant Fleet-

Tali: Shepard.. I just want you to know... Well.. umm..
Shepard: What is it, Tali?
Tali: Well.. many of the quarian females have heard of your.. erm.. "heroics"
Shepard: Really?
Tali: Yes, so don't be suprised if a few other.. ah.. women.. approach you..
Shepard: Don't worry Tali, you're the only one I'll ever say "yes" to.

--Door slides open, revealing a mob of quarian females on the other side--

Shepard: .....
Rann: Well.. Shepard.. Hello there~
Tali: Auntie?! What is th--
Rann: Take her away! Grab Shepard ladies!
Shepard: ..wh-what?!
--Tali gets dragged away by the others--
Tali: Shepard!
Shepard: No! Tali! Gah! Let go of me!
Quarian Female: Shepard~ come to my place, I have neural stimulants~
Shepard: Gah! Get back, all of you!
Rann: Relax Shepard.. We just wan't some "intimacy" with you
Shepard: You!? But you're Tali's Aunt!
Rann: We can't help it, Shepard! 70% of the migrant fleet are female. We're physically and emotionally starved~
Shepard: Wouldn't you all get sick?!
Rann: That's a risk we're willing to take... STRIP HIM
Shepard: Noo! LEAVE ME ALONE. TALI!
-starts bashing his way through-
Shepard: Tali! where are you!?
Admiral Xen: Hey, there Shepard~
Shepard: EWW. YOU HATE ME!
-smack-
Shepard: Taliiiiiii!
--gets tackled and is swarmed by the female quarians--
Shepard: N-not the pants!


Tali: Shepard!
Shepard: ...Tali!

--The quarians hiss at Tali, claiming dibs on Shepard--

Tali: -yells- Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes! rawr~ <3

Shepard: ....Don't you mean "Go for the optics, Chitikka, Go for the o--
---Watches in horror as a Gigantic Space Hamster in a spacesuit tears through the Ship's walls--

Shepard: TALI?!

Tali: --laughs maniacally as Boo shoves the quarian women off Shepard--
Tali: Quick! Grab on Shepard!
-Shepard grabs her arm and sits behind her as Boo jumps out of the Migrant Fleet-

----

Shepard: .....Tali... where the hell did you get Boo?
Tali: These pockets are deeper than you think, Shepard...
Shepard: .....


Pure win my friend! :lol:

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Litos456 wrote...

Alright well I guess I should go and do my homework.
Cya later guys. If anyone still didn't see my video, well, here... click


Later bud.  Spread the love.