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[The_KFD_Case]

EverettCameron wrote...

I can accept their reasoning for not showing her face...I mean obviously we'll all buy ME3 for the faint hope and glimmer that is the great reveal. Smart business-sense....even if it does treat us like strung out heroin addicts waiting for our next Tali fix.

Aye, but right now...Phew! Man, it seems like it's gonna be a looooong ride! haha

[Arrtis]

I would have thought BW got lazy with character creation and stumbled upon Tali which some people excessively liked.

[Dezhem]

ComTrav wrote...

I find it outrageously funny that Dezham and I both responded to that...lol...I feel tired...

Ehe, not sure who that was aimed at now. Too much quotation!

[MarauderW]

How long do Quarians live in general?



If this question has been already answered then I apologise, but I hadn't seen it being posted.

[The_KFD_Case]

Dezhem wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
*bows* Thank you.

Say, I don't recall having seen you post in here often. Are you a recent addition or one of the "lurkers" come out of the shadows for a bit? Either way, good to have ya!

A bit of a lurker though I'm starting to post more. Definitely a Tali supporter, no doubt about that!

I do have my reasons though, not just hopping on the bandwagon.

Her character seems so well developed. She embodies a lot of attractive qualities as you've mentioned. Mysterious yet achingly familiar at the same time. Devoted, yet very strong willed and independent (for a Quarian). Kind,
yet not a fool or a doormat. Intelligent yet not aloof. Shy but not a
recluse. You get the feeling she'd be your best friend as well as your lover; A winning combination.

Her voice actor does an amazing job, too. (I love the accent!)
The fact that she's incredibly popular when you can't even see her face, skin or other features speaks for itself, especially in modern society where vanity and self-image is paramount to existence, it seems. Although her figure is great!

I'm actually replaying ME1 to have her in my party; I never included her back then, for some reason. Probably because my Sheps tended to be on the Tech side of things.

I'm really hoping Bioware keep her as a squadmate, or at the very least don't write her out of the story like they did Liara, Kaiden and Ashley. She deserves better.

Now it's my turn to acknowledge that I couldn't have typed it better myself. Bravo!

Speaking of Tali deserving better, that's another reason why I would like to see Tali's face unvealed. She deserves it. As a character, one that is that well written and that deeply developed, it just seems nothing short of criminal not to complete her the way the other characters have been.

[ComTrav]

MarauderW wrote...

How long do Quarians live in general?

If this question has been already answered then I apologise, but I hadn't seen it being posted.

IIRC, approximately as long as humans.

[MarauderW]

ComTrav wrote...

MarauderW wrote...

How long do Quarians live in general?

If this question has been already answered then I apologise, but I hadn't seen it being posted.

IIRC, approximately as long as humans.

Good to know, thanks.

[Arrtis]

I thought quarians have a shorter life span.

[Yazman]

Quarian lifespan is pretty close to humans

[Adamski_707]

First time i look at the thread today, since i went to bed last night there has been 50 pages. I have to say good work guys. xD

[Arrtis]

Yazman wrote...

Quarian lifespan is pretty close to humans

i thought it was pretty close to human now but in ME humans live 50% longer then we do.

[The_KFD_Case]

ComTrav wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Say, I don't recall having seen you post in here often. Are you a recent addition or one of the "lurkers" come out of the shadows for a bit? Either way, good to have ya!

There were several scads of quotation boxes before that, so I'm not sure if you meant me--but I don't think of posted hardly at all on this thread. I'm active in a couple of the other character threads, but haven't frequented this one much for two reasons. First, it moves really, really fast and is hard to keep up with; second, I like lots of characters and try to support those who I don't think aren't receiving quite as much attention. Tali seems immensely popular and in only a little danger of being left out in ME3...other characters I care about don't have the benefit of *quite* such a massive and intense fanbase.

I can relate to your sentiments regarding the other characters. I enjoyed all of them - yes, even Zaeed (whom many appear to have something against). It's a testament to the skill and talent of BioWare and it does them proud, IMO. Whenever a poll comes up asking "Who's your favourite character? Who's the most appealing? Which character's loyalty mission did you like most?, etc." I find it is often not a simple "no brainer" decision, not for me at least. For example, Mordin's dialogue is superb and especially during his loyalty mission I find that some of the most poignant and stirring food-for-thought material is aired in the entire game. Tali's mission ends up trawling through the murky waters of politics in high places and incorporating what is one of the most touching moments in the entire game (i.e. the paragon interrupt that results in Shepard tenderly saying "Hey, hey...." before reaching out to her and they hug after Tali discovers her father's corpse). Samara is an exotic and hugely intriguing character seen from my eyes; a 1,000 year old Asari justicar committed to what can safely be considered one of the worst fates to befall a parent (i.e. outliving one's child) and I dearly hope BioWare brings her back in ME3 since we just barely scrapped the tip of the iceberg with her. I could go on about the other party members as well but I sense there is little need - we both realise the tremendous stew of characters BioWare have cooked up on this occasion. I'd be pleased to see all of the team mates from ME2 return in ME3, including those from ME1 that were side-lined in ME2.

[The_KFD_Case]

Arrtis wrote...

I would have thought BW got lazy with character creation and stumbled upon Tali which some people excessively liked.

Back to trolling as per usual, eh Arrtis? Suit yourself.

Which character is your favourite?

[Arrtis]

I still think Tali should be an npc that helps the quarians in their goals.

[The_KFD_Case]

Dezhem wrote...

ComTrav wrote...

I find it outrageously funny that Dezham and I both responded to that...lol...I feel tired...

Ehe, not sure who that was aimed at now. Too much quotation!

It was intended for you, however the more the merrier!

[Adamski_707]

Just a quick question for you guys.



Personaly i think both talis recruitment mission and loyalty mission are the best examples of both recruitment and loyalty missions. I think they are both somewhat unique whereas most other recruitment missions see you fighting countless mercs.



Halestrom (spelling?) feels unique not because of the geth but the look of the level and the fact your hiding from direct sunlight as well as the nature of the mission itself it felt like it had a sense of urgentcy others were lacking imo.



As for the loyalty mission i thought it was the most emotionaly charged of the lot, the only one that came close imo was thane's or garrus's.



I just want to ask what are your favouites and why?

[Arrtis]

samara recruitment you had to stay out of the poisonous gases.

[Morph.hu]

no real favourite Adamski_707, but - in my opinion - the best loyalty missions are Tali's, Garrus' and Thane's (in no particular order).

seriously Arrtis, why do you enjoy this? seriously.

Modifié par Morph.hu, 10 février 2010 - 10:47 .

[BLACKOUT228]

Morph.hu wrote...

no real favourite Adamski_707, but - in my opinion - the best loyalty missions are Tali's, Garrus' and Thane's (in no particular order).

seriously Arrtis, why do you enjoy this? seriously.

Please do not feed the troll.

[Yazman]

Tali's loyalty mission is the best, so emotionally charged too, and so meaningful with the Tali romance. Garrus' one really made me stop and think Thane's was just really fun to do. I enjoyed the banter between the C-Sec captain and Thane, especially the talks about children.

[nitefyre410]

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

My daily Goodmorning-Folks Tali-4-Life contribution:



^^

 

That Sam Fisher and third Echelion approve of Tali as well... 

I'm sorry but you Shepherd looks  so much line Sam  Fishers is makes me laugh every time i see that post. 

[nitefyre410]

Yazman wrote...

Tali's loyalty mission is the best, so emotionally charged too, and so meaningful with the Tali romance. Garrus' one really made me stop and think Thane's was just really fun to do. I enjoyed the banter between the C-Sec captain and Thane, especially the talks about children.

 

Tali was the Seconds Best, no other mission was as Emotion charged as Mordin's...sorry I love me girl but to watch him go through  rationalizations and try to come to terms with what he did man.     Tali hit me hard because  you saw the little girl inside that still loved her father very much but  the women was bitter over how he showed that love.. 


aahhh hell  they were both great ...I could spend hours just playing both their missions 

[The_KFD_Case]

Adamski_707 wrote...

Just a quick question for you guys.

Personaly i think both talis recruitment mission and loyalty mission are the best examples of both recruitment and loyalty missions. I think they are both somewhat unique whereas most other recruitment missions see you fighting countless mercs.

Halestrom (spelling?) feels unique not because of the geth but the look of the level and the fact your hiding from direct sunlight as well as the nature of the mission itself it felt like it had a sense of urgentcy others were lacking imo.

As for the loyalty mission i thought it was the most emotionaly charged of the lot, the only one that came close imo was thane's or garrus's.

I just want to ask what are your favouites and why?

Good question. I have several favourites though for different reasons. In no particular order:

Most ethically stirring loyalty mission: Mordin's. The dialogue options in that mission completely opened Mordin up in a way I had not expected and made him feel directly accessible; Mordin's and my Shepard's relationship actually felt closer after that mission the way one would hope considering it was a loyalty mission. The anguish Mordin was undergoing while analysing and re-evaluating his actions in re-applying the genophage amongst the Krogans while trying to balance them with his love and respect for the diversity of life throughout the galaxy was tangible and are, IMO, the most ethically difficult to handle.

Most sentimentally stirring loyalty mission: Tali'Zorah's. Watching her fret nervously over the fate of her father and second guessing herself as to whether she made any mistakes regarding the safety of Geth parts highlighted her strength and compassion while revealing an inner insecurity that likely ties in with her modesty and shynes. When she and Shepard hug upon discovering her father's dead body it felt like time very nearly stood still.

Most interactive from a role-playing perspective: Samara's. Having to unearth the location of Morinth and scouring the Afterlife night club to secure vital pieces of information that can assist you in convincing Morinth to take you home with her so the trap can be sprung is circle within a circle of the hunter becoming the hunted while being allowed to think she is still the hunter (which she very much is, for even as we are hunting her she is still capable of hunting us). The fierce iconic struggle between a mother and her daughter highlights some of the dichotomies in the struggle between good and evil, selfishness and selflessness. Two sides of the same coin yet always apart.

I personally found that most of the loyalty missions had moments where I felt torn emotionally and ethically, giving pause to which course of action to persue. The one clear exception that comes to my mind was Jacob's. I enjoyed his quest too yet it seemed fairly straight forward that his father had done terrible things and didn't raise so much of an ethical question in regards as to whether he should be stopped or not - it seemed more to be a matter of how his machinations should be ended.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 10 février 2010 - 11:05 .