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[VettoRyouzou]

trigger2kill1 wrote...

Litos456 wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...

You might not like this but the numbers don't lie.
As near as I can tell this fella is quite well educated and very good at statistical analysis. I hope that these results will be accepted in the spirit that they were developed with. Mr. xx55xx worked very hard to give us a detailed mathamatically spirited, and unbias analysis of the characters the fans (that be us) liked. Thankyou Mr. xx55xx, well done.
This character survey was designed and compiled by (xx55xx)
"Analysis Tali
Although the polls and fan responce on the Bioware forums suggest Tali is the most popular squadmate in all of Mass effect the numbers hint at a different story: Yes, she is popular, but not as popular as we have once thought. For example, her (mean) score of 8.05, while high, is somewhat lower than the (mean) scores of several other characters. Also, her (coefficient of variation) of 26.9% connotes a degree of variability (albeit not terribly great) in people's reactions twards Tali. Perhaps all the hype is causing a mild backlash in some quarters?"

The author goes on to describe that Tali ranks 5th out of the 16 characters.

This detailed survey can be found at "google docs" under "Mass Effect character survey - results and analysis.pdf"

I take it with a grain of salt, there no way to offically know any numbers outside of bioware feedback showing the most used squad mate/ LI.

Agreed.
Besides, how can Bioware ignore this.

This fella used his polls to compile these results and the polls are from this site. That is how.

That then voiding every person opinion not on the forum a shocking surprise most game owner do not visit the game they own forum, So again there no official number outside of the bioware feedback option, if you don't like that fact then your up a creek my friend as well as the person who made this supposedly "fact" post.

[Litos456]

trigger2kill1 wrote...

Litos456 wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...

You might not like this but the numbers don't lie.
As near as I can tell this fella is quite well educated and very good at statistical analysis. I hope that these results will be accepted in the spirit that they were developed with. Mr. xx55xx worked very hard to give us a detailed mathamatically spirited, and unbias analysis of the characters the fans (that be us) liked. Thankyou Mr. xx55xx, well done.
This character survey was designed and compiled by (xx55xx)
"Analysis Tali
Although the polls and fan responce on the Bioware forums suggest Tali is the most popular squadmate in all of Mass effect the numbers hint at a different story: Yes, she is popular, but not as popular as we have once thought. For example, her (mean) score of 8.05, while high, is somewhat lower than the (mean) scores of several other characters. Also, her (coefficient of variation) of 26.9% connotes a degree of variability (albeit not terribly great) in people's reactions twards Tali. Perhaps all the hype is causing a mild backlash in some quarters?"

The author goes on to describe that Tali ranks 5th out of the 16 characters.

This detailed survey can be found at "google docs" under "Mass Effect character survey - results and analysis.pdf"

I take it with a grain of salt, there no way to offically know any numbers outside of bioware feedback showing the most used squad mate/ LI.

Agreed.
Besides, how can Bioware ignore this.

This fella used his polls to compile these results and the polls are from this site. That is how.

Yeah I understand, but that still doesn't really confirm that for sure.
I  wouldnt believe in an unofficial survey, but thanks for the info.

[KujaTheDarkOne2]

trigger2kill1 wrote...

Litos456 wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...

You might not like this but the numbers don't lie.
As near as I can tell this fella is quite well educated and very good at statistical analysis. I hope that these results will be accepted in the spirit that they were developed with. Mr. xx55xx worked very hard to give us a detailed mathamatically spirited, and unbias analysis of the characters the fans (that be us) liked. Thankyou Mr. xx55xx, well done.
This character survey was designed and compiled by (xx55xx)
"Analysis Tali
Although the polls and fan responce on the Bioware forums suggest Tali is the most popular squadmate in all of Mass effect the numbers hint at a different story: Yes, she is popular, but not as popular as we have once thought. For example, her (mean) score of 8.05, while high, is somewhat lower than the (mean) scores of several other characters. Also, her (coefficient of variation) of 26.9% connotes a degree of variability (albeit not terribly great) in people's reactions twards Tali. Perhaps all the hype is causing a mild backlash in some quarters?"

The author goes on to describe that Tali ranks 5th out of the 16 characters.

This detailed survey can be found at "google docs" under "Mass Effect character survey - results and analysis.pdf"

I take it with a grain of salt, there no way to offically know any numbers outside of bioware feedback showing the most used squad mate/ LI.

Agreed.
Besides, how can Bioware ignore this.

This fella used his polls to compile these results and the polls are from this site. That is how.

Though overall I admit to the validity of the poll, one must also take into account that some people ("trolls") who hate us Tali-lovers purposely vote against Tali in those sorts of things.

[EDarkness]

Hard to believe this thread is still open. I figured Bioware would have closed it by now.

[damage incorp96]

Just_mike wrote...

seinVerstand wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

It probably easy to say the Quarian home world would be the opposite of the Krogan Homeworld, one was very clean very pure and well maintained, were as the other... well god Only know what nasty thing grow on Tuchanka but all of it there to make stronger krogan.

Speaking on names have they ever named the Quarian home world?

It's Rannoch

Thought it was Haestrom.

Haestrom was a colony

[trigger2kill1]

I never said that you had to be number one to stay in here frankly I thought that 5th was pretty darn skippy. She happens to be one of my favorite characters in the series so far. Would like to see her finish out the series myself.

[GuyWithFace]

nitefyre410 wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...

You might not like this but the numbers don't lie.
As near as I can tell this fella is quite well educated and very good at statistical analysis. I hope that these results will be accepted in the spirit that they were developed with. Mr. xx55xx worked very hard to give us a detailed mathamatically spirited, and unbias analysis of the characters the fans (that be us) liked. Thankyou Mr. xx55xx, well done.
This character survey was designed and compiled by (xx55xx)
"Analysis Tali
Although the polls and fan responce on the Bioware forums suggest Tali is the most popular squadmate in all of Mass effect the numbers hint at a different story: Yes, she is popular, but not as popular as we have once thought. For example, her (mean) score of 8.05, while high, is somewhat lower than the (mean) scores of several other characters. Also, her (coefficient of variation) of 26.9% connotes a degree of variability (albeit not terribly great) in people's reactions twards Tali. Perhaps all the hype is causing a mild backlash in some quarters?"

The author goes on to describe that Tali ranks 5th out of the 16 characters.

This detailed survey can be found at "google docs" under "Mass Effect character survey - results and analysis.pdf"

 

So her ranking 5th out all 16 characters is bad... she is in the top five...  thats is nothing to worry about.. I have never seen a top 5 character get killed off... 

We went over this earlier today.

The test population for this poll was mainly posters on these forums. That's not a very random test pool.

And anyone with half a wit knows that if the population selected for a survey isn't random, the results can be completely skewed and biased.

I'm not saying this to defend Tali. I'm not sure if she'd be the favourite character in a truly randomised survey, bu I at least know she'd be up there.

[seinVerstand]

Scalpels wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

seinVerstand wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

It probably easy to say the Quarian home world would be the opposite of the Krogan Homeworld, one was very clean very pure and well maintained, were as the other... well god Only know what nasty thing grow on Tuchanka but all of it there to make stronger krogan.

Speaking on names have they ever named the Quarian home world?

It's Rannoch

Thought it was Haestrom.

Challenge: Find name of Tali's mother.

Never stated.

[KujaTheDarkOne2]

EDarkness wrote...

Hard to believe this thread is still open. I figured Bioware would have closed it by now.

I know, right?  The moderators apparently have better things to do, or have upped their cutoff point or summat.

[Jake71887]

EDarkness wrote...

Hard to believe this thread is still open. I figured Bioware would have closed it by now.

They probably learned after the first, how futile such actions are against the legion of Talimancers. 

[cdsmith0]

KujaTheDarkOne2 wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...

Litos456 wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...

You might not like this but the numbers don't lie.
As near as I can tell this fella is quite well educated and very good at statistical analysis. I hope that these results will be accepted in the spirit that they were developed with. Mr. xx55xx worked very hard to give us a detailed mathamatically spirited, and unbias analysis of the characters the fans (that be us) liked. Thankyou Mr. xx55xx, well done.
This character survey was designed and compiled by (xx55xx)
"Analysis Tali
Although the polls and fan responce on the Bioware forums suggest Tali is the most popular squadmate in all of Mass effect the numbers hint at a different story: Yes, she is popular, but not as popular as we have once thought. For example, her (mean) score of 8.05, while high, is somewhat lower than the (mean) scores of several other characters. Also, her (coefficient of variation) of 26.9% connotes a degree of variability (albeit not terribly great) in people's reactions twards Tali. Perhaps all the hype is causing a mild backlash in some quarters?"

The author goes on to describe that Tali ranks 5th out of the 16 characters.

This detailed survey can be found at "google docs" under "Mass Effect character survey - results and analysis.pdf"

I take it with a grain of salt, there no way to offically know any numbers outside of bioware feedback showing the most used squad mate/ LI.

Agreed.
Besides, how can Bioware ignore this.

This fella used his polls to compile these results and the polls are from this site. That is how.

Though overall I admit to the validity of the poll, one must also take into account that some people ("trolls") who hate us Tali-lovers purposely vote against Tali in those sorts of things.

this better not ruin our chance to have tali back in our squad and hearts in ME 3

[GuyWithFace]

Jake71887 wrote...

EDarkness wrote...

Hard to believe this thread is still open. I figured Bioware would have closed it by now.

They probably learned after the first, how futile such actions are against the legion of Talimancers. 

This. Maybe they fear Talimancers are similar to Necromancers, and we'll summon anarmy of... undead Tali to eat their faces off? o.O

[VettoRyouzou]

And while that understandable I still take it with a grain of salt, this forum is not all of Mass effect community hell I wouldn't be shocked if we were a small portion of it, any REAL number statistics come from bioware.

[Terminus Pi]

trigger2kill1 wrote...

Litos456 wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...

You might not like this but the numbers don't lie.
As near as I can tell this fella is quite well educated and very good at statistical analysis. I hope that these results will be accepted in the spirit that they were developed with. Mr. xx55xx worked very hard to give us a detailed mathamatically spirited, and unbias analysis of the characters the fans (that be us) liked. Thankyou Mr. xx55xx, well done.
This character survey was designed and compiled by (xx55xx)
"Analysis Tali
Although the polls and fan responce on the Bioware forums suggest Tali is the most popular squadmate in all of Mass effect the numbers hint at a different story: Yes, she is popular, but not as popular as we have once thought. For example, her (mean) score of 8.05, while high, is somewhat lower than the (mean) scores of several other characters. Also, her (coefficient of variation) of 26.9% connotes a degree of variability (albeit not terribly great) in people's reactions twards Tali. Perhaps all the hype is causing a mild backlash in some quarters?"

The author goes on to describe that Tali ranks 5th out of the 16 characters.

This detailed survey can be found at "google docs" under "Mass Effect character survey - results and analysis.pdf"

I take it with a grain of salt, there no way to offically know any numbers outside of bioware feedback showing the most used squad mate/ LI.

Agreed.
Besides, how can Bioware ignore this.

This fella used his polls to compile these results and the polls are from this site. That is how.

It has to be added that on this poll, Tali-haters and people who were trying to promote other characters may have intentionally given a poor score to tali, given the inmensely larger size of Tali-posts and supporters in this forum.

[KujaTheDarkOne2]

GuyWithFace wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...

You might not like this but the numbers don't lie.
As near as I can tell this fella is quite well educated and very good at statistical analysis. I hope that these results will be accepted in the spirit that they were developed with. Mr. xx55xx worked very hard to give us a detailed mathamatically spirited, and unbias analysis of the characters the fans (that be us) liked. Thankyou Mr. xx55xx, well done.
This character survey was designed and compiled by (xx55xx)
"Analysis Tali
Although the polls and fan responce on the Bioware forums suggest Tali is the most popular squadmate in all of Mass effect the numbers hint at a different story: Yes, she is popular, but not as popular as we have once thought. For example, her (mean) score of 8.05, while high, is somewhat lower than the (mean) scores of several other characters. Also, her (coefficient of variation) of 26.9% connotes a degree of variability (albeit not terribly great) in people's reactions twards Tali. Perhaps all the hype is causing a mild backlash in some quarters?"

The author goes on to describe that Tali ranks 5th out of the 16 characters.

This detailed survey can be found at "google docs" under "Mass Effect character survey - results and analysis.pdf"

 

So her ranking 5th out all 16 characters is bad... she is in the top five...  thats is nothing to worry about.. I have never seen a top 5 character get killed off... 

We went over this earlier today.

The test population for this poll was mainly posters on these forums. That's not a very random test pool.

And anyone with half a wit knows that if the population selected for a survey isn't random, the results can be completely skewed and biased.

I'm not saying this to defend Tali. I'm not sure if she'd be the favourite character in a truly randomised survey, bu I at least know she'd be up there.

Thank you. I was hoping someone else would say it before me... but you took too long so now my half-assed explanation is also here.

[Litos456]

Jake71887 wrote...

EDarkness wrote...

Hard to believe this thread is still open. I figured Bioware would have closed it by now.

They probably learned after the first, how futile such actions are against the legion of Talimancers. 

Hahaha agreed, this thread has gone wayy too epic

[Lord_Moose]

RaoulG4668 wrote...
Bah, there is no such thing as increasing Tali. This is blasphemy, a Tali, true or personal cannot possibly be traded like damaged goods. I shall not stand by while this Tali market proceeds 

Well i've never called Tali DAMAGED GOODS, you're the only one that seems to imply that she is.
Maybe we should revoke your Tali, and give her to someone worthy, like Doc and Guywithface

[KujaTheDarkOne2]

cdsmith0 wrote...

KujaTheDarkOne2 wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...

Litos456 wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...

You might not like this but the numbers don't lie.
As near as I can tell this fella is quite well educated and very good at statistical analysis. I hope that these results will be accepted in the spirit that they were developed with. Mr. xx55xx worked very hard to give us a detailed mathamatically spirited, and unbias analysis of the characters the fans (that be us) liked. Thankyou Mr. xx55xx, well done.
This character survey was designed and compiled by (xx55xx)
"Analysis Tali
Although the polls and fan responce on the Bioware forums suggest Tali is the most popular squadmate in all of Mass effect the numbers hint at a different story: Yes, she is popular, but not as popular as we have once thought. For example, her (mean) score of 8.05, while high, is somewhat lower than the (mean) scores of several other characters. Also, her (coefficient of variation) of 26.9% connotes a degree of variability (albeit not terribly great) in people's reactions twards Tali. Perhaps all the hype is causing a mild backlash in some quarters?"

The author goes on to describe that Tali ranks 5th out of the 16 characters.

This detailed survey can be found at "google docs" under "Mass Effect character survey - results and analysis.pdf"

I take it with a grain of salt, there no way to offically know any numbers outside of bioware feedback showing the most used squad mate/ LI.

Agreed.
Besides, how can Bioware ignore this.

This fella used his polls to compile these results and the polls are from this site. That is how.

Though overall I admit to the validity of the poll, one must also take into account that some people ("trolls") who hate us Tali-lovers purposely vote against Tali in those sorts of things.

this better not ruin our chance to have tali back in our squad and hearts in ME 3

Nah, man. I'm pretty sure her place is secured thanks to us.

[RaoulG4668]

Polls are polls and can lie like a dog, spammers take advantage and will randomly select choices, it is by far very off balance at all times. Threads like these are what keeps Bioware attentiveness to Tali at a high level.

[seinVerstand]

Off topic but where can I find a good picture of a collector? goggling it result in nothing but the CE.

[KujaTheDarkOne2]

Lord_Moose wrote...

RaoulG4668 wrote...
Bah, there is no such thing as increasing Tali. This is blasphemy, a Tali, true or personal cannot possibly be traded like damaged goods. I shall not stand by while this Tali market proceeds 

Well i've never called Tali DAMAGED GOODS, you're the only one that seems to imply that she is.
Maybe we should revoke your Tali, and give her to someone worthy, like Doc and Guywithface

Hey, man. Not so fast.

......There are plenty of other worthy people here. Though of course Doc and Guy With Face are incredibly worthy. ^__^

[Jake71887]

Lord_Moose wrote...

RaoulG4668 wrote...
Bah, there is no such thing as increasing Tali. This is blasphemy, a Tali, true or personal cannot possibly be traded like damaged goods. I shall not stand by while this Tali market proceeds 

Well i've never called Tali DAMAGED GOODS, you're the only one that seems to imply that she is.
Maybe we should revoke your Tali, and give her to someone worthy, like Doc and Guywithface

I find you in violation of the "Vas Normandy Peace Accord" your rights and access to Tali'zorah are now restricted. have a pleasant day. 

[GuyWithFace]

cdsmith0 wrote...

this better not ruin our chance to have tali back in our squad and hearts in ME 3

In all seriousness, I doubt anything we do will change whether or not Bioware uses Tali in ME3. I have no doubt in my mind that they've already had the min story arc for ME3 finished before ME2 was released. If they've already planned to have Tali as a squadmate or simply as an NPC, I doubt we'll change that. It's most likely too far into production to make major changes like that.

But, we can influence them on what to DO with Tali, interaction-wise!

I hope.

[Terminus Pi]

seinVerstand wrote...

Off topic but where can I find a good picture of a collector? goggling it result in nothing but the CE.

Try googling for the harbinger

[trigger2kill1]

Wow I was offering this poll as information to actually support Tali yet I seem to get slammed for it.

As I have said in the past I really liked her character.