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[KujaTheDarkOne2]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Kolaris8472 wrote...

Why did everyone talk him out of killing his nemesis? Even on my "Paragon" character I couldn't really justify it. Taking out the Blue Suns head merc is going to save a lot more lives than one bumbling idiot who could have just jumped down off of whatever he was talking to you from. Maybe he didn't clearly communicate what the dilemma was...

Logical, true, but try telling that to yourself in person over the screams of the men and women you can save right then and there if you choose to act.

It's a similar story with the hijacked military base that unleashes two Javelin Mk. II nuclear missiles. Save the strategic spaceport (which will allow rebuilding in the long term) or save hundreds of thousands of colonists (resulting in the destruction of the spaceport and the eventual evacuation of the colonists)? That one tore at me because I tend to take the long-term view and strategize but for me it came down to this: Government/military exists to protect it's citizens. While it is possible that saving the colonists might lead to more deaths in the future, there did not appear to be any continuous threat in that area beyond the immediate missile crisis. It would likely be of little comfort to the colonists to hear that they were sacrificed when they could have been saved by the press of a button simply to keep a strategic space port (which I might add, could also be rebuilt if the political will is present to do so). It's all to easy to have lose sight of the people you are supposed to be serving, whether it's in business or in government. They become numbers. When you have the opportunity to make a positive change for a person, it's something of a gift. Shepard echoes the same sentiment while speaking to an Asari on Illium. Not everyone gets the chance to make a difference.

I loved that decision with the Javelin Mk. II missiles. Such profound decison, with both choices having valid reasoning behind them... But of course I eventually went with saving the people. Though I found it strange that I received no Paragon/Renegade points for either action.

[The_KFD_Case]

MasterMegatron wrote...


Agreed. Collector Particle Beam FTW!

The Cain, baby, the Cain (aka. M-920 Cain)!

[thepyro13]

HylianTemplar wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Lord_Moose wrote...

Quick, you are sitting wherever you may be, and this very moment an escape pod SMASHES into your room, causeing a lot of damage, but it remains in your room, not going through any more floors. The pod opens, and a very disoriented Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy exits the pod.
What happens?!
(Where you are presently, with everyone in the room there there, nothing changed. but a wall is mostly smashed because of said pod )

Express concern over Tali's well being! Help check for suit ruptures.

I would also try to hide the pod and once she is ok help her contact the fleet while trying not to get caught by the government because they would experiment on her.

Government would get her over my dead body

[Jake71887]

Himmelstor wrote...

Not that hard. If Vido escapes, may commit atrocity similar a dozen more times. Better to kill now. Be done with.

We must preserve human lives, no matter the cost... People like Vido can be tracked again

[chenDawg]

Someone needs to hack into the game files and find the model they used for maskless Tali.

[The_KFD_Case]

KujaTheDarkOne2 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Kolaris8472 wrote...

Why did everyone talk him out of killing his nemesis? Even on my "Paragon" character I couldn't really justify it. Taking out the Blue Suns head merc is going to save a lot more lives than one bumbling idiot who could have just jumped down off of whatever he was talking to you from. Maybe he didn't clearly communicate what the dilemma was...

Logical, true, but try telling that to yourself in person over the screams of the men and women you can save right then and there if you choose to act.

It's a similar story with the hijacked military base that unleashes two Javelin Mk. II nuclear missiles. Save the strategic spaceport (which will allow rebuilding in the long term) or save hundreds of thousands of colonists (resulting in the destruction of the spaceport and the eventual evacuation of the colonists)? That one tore at me because I tend to take the long-term view and strategize but for me it came down to this: Government/military exists to protect it's citizens. While it is possible that saving the colonists might lead to more deaths in the future, there did not appear to be any continuous threat in that area beyond the immediate missile crisis. It would likely be of little comfort to the colonists to hear that they were sacrificed when they could have been saved by the press of a button simply to keep a strategic space port (which I might add, could also be rebuilt if the political will is present to do so). It's all to easy to have lose sight of the people you are supposed to be serving, whether it's in business or in government. They become numbers. When you have the opportunity to make a positive change for a person, it's something of a gift. Shepard echoes the same sentiment while speaking to an Asari on Illium. Not everyone gets the chance to make a difference.

I loved that decision with the Javelin Mk. II missiles. Such profound decison, with both choices having valid reasoning behind them... But of course I eventually went with saving the people. Though I found it strange that I received no Paragon/Renegade points for either action.

Yes! In fact, I disctinctly recall pressing the button to save the colonists' residential area and yet in my completed mission log it showed up as having chosen to save the space port! Bug perhaps?

Speaking of such, the Salarian you can agree to gather to packages of intel for on Omega, if you choose the Paragon option of talking him out of his attempt to challenge Aria you get Paragon points and some money (less than if you give him the packages which also earns you Renegade points). Yet if you choose that Paragon version the mission doesn't register as being completed. The other Paragon option is to go and speak to Alto, one of Aria's thugs, and he gives you even less money but you still earn Paragon points. Seemed a bit odd to me since he says we won't be hearing from the Salarian again....

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 12 février 2010 - 04:30 .

[KujaTheDarkOne2]

Himmelstor wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Kolaris8472 wrote...

Why did everyone talk him out of killing his nemesis? Even on my "Paragon" character I couldn't really justify it. Taking out the Blue Suns head merc is going to save a lot more lives than one bumbling idiot who could have just jumped down off of whatever he was talking to you from. Maybe he didn't clearly communicate what the dilemma was...

Logical, true, but try telling that to yourself in person over the screams of the men and women you can save right then and there if you choose to act.

It's a similar story with the hijacked military base that unleashes two Javelin Mk. II nuclear missiles. Save the strategic spaceport (which will allow rebuilding in the long term) or save hundreds of thousands of colonists (resulting in the destruction of the spaceport and the eventual evacuation of the colonists)? That one tore at me because I tend to take the long-term view and strategize but for me it came down to this: Government/military exists to protect it's citizens. While it is possible that saving the colonists might lead to more deaths in the future, there did not appear to be any continuous threat in that area beyond the immediate missile crisis. It would likely be of little comfort to the colonists to hear that they were sacrificed when they could have been saved by the press of a button simply to keep a strategic space port (which I might add, could also be rebuilt if the political will is present to do so). It's all to easy to have lose sight of the people you are supposed to be serving, whether it's in business or in government. They become numbers. When you have the opportunity to make a positive change for a person, it's something of a gift. Shepard echoes the same sentiment while speaking to an Asari on Illium. Not everyone gets the chance to make a difference.

Not that hard. If Vido escapes, may commit atrocity similar a dozen more times. Better to kill now. Be done with.

Ah, you truly are the Doctor through and through, Himmelstor. So awesome.

[nitefyre410]

Ok I am never leaving the happy place that is tali thread again... I was in the Why mordin Dies thread and my blood pressure is going up from the Stupidity of a hold the line score that no one seems to be able to produce as a number.. I am going to stay in here where is nice and peaceful with my Tali...



Should have never left.

[MasterMegatron]

HylianTemplar wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Lord_Moose wrote...

Quick, you are sitting wherever you may be, and this very moment an escape pod SMASHES into your room, causeing a lot of damage, but it remains in your room, not going through any more floors. The pod opens, and a very disoriented Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy exits the pod.
What happens?!
(Where you are presently, with everyone in the room there there, nothing changed. but a wall is mostly smashed because of said pod )

Express concern over Tali's well being! Help check for suit ruptures.

I would also try to hide the pod and once she is ok help her contact the fleet while trying not to get caught by the government because they would experiment on her.

They'd get her when they walk over my corpse to do it. And I intend to make sure they pay heavily for trying. I will not allow them to desecrate Tali with their filthy hands!

[damage incorp96]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...


Agreed. Collector Particle Beam FTW!

The Cain, baby, the Cain (aka. M-920 Cain)!

What's up with the Cain, haven't been able to fire it. It just hisses a little.

[thepyro13]

MasterMegatron wrote...

HylianTemplar wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Lord_Moose wrote...

Quick, you are sitting wherever you may be, and this very moment an escape pod SMASHES into your room, causeing a lot of damage, but it remains in your room, not going through any more floors. The pod opens, and a very disoriented Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy exits the pod.
What happens?!
(Where you are presently, with everyone in the room there there, nothing changed. but a wall is mostly smashed because of said pod )

Express concern over Tali's well being! Help check for suit ruptures.

I would also try to hide the pod and once she is ok help her contact the fleet while trying not to get caught by the government because they would experiment on her.

They'd get her when they walk over my corpse to do it. And I intend to make sure they pay heavily for trying. I will not allow them to desecrate Tali with their filthy hands!

Damn straight, agree fully

[Jake71887]

damage incorp96 wrote...
What's up with the Cain, haven't been able to fire it. It just hisses a little.

You need a 100% charge before it'll fire. 

[chenDawg]

damage incorp96 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...


Agreed. Collector Particle Beam FTW!

The Cain, baby, the Cain (aka. M-920 Cain)!

What's up with the Cain, haven't been able to fire it. It just hisses a little.

You need enough Heavy Weapon Ammo for it to be at 100%

[MasterMegatron]

damage incorp96 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...


Agreed. Collector Particle Beam FTW!

The Cain, baby, the Cain (aka. M-920 Cain)!

What's up with the Cain, haven't been able to fire it. It just hisses a little.

It needs to be at 100% at least. I've gotten it to 175%, which may be its max. I bet its 200%, with all the Heavy Weapon ammo upgrades.

[Yazman]

HylianTemplar wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Lord_Moose wrote...

Quick, you are sitting wherever you may be, and this very moment an escape pod SMASHES into your room, causeing a lot of damage, but it remains in your room, not going through any more floors. The pod opens, and a very disoriented Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy exits the pod.
What happens?!
(Where you are presently, with everyone in the room there there, nothing changed. but a wall is mostly smashed because of said pod )

Express concern over Tali's well being! Help check for suit ruptures.

I would also try to hide the pod and once she is ok help her contact the fleet while trying not to get caught by the government because they would experiment on her.

Yes, good idea  Hide the pod and the damage as much as possible and make sure she doesn't get caught by the feds. Bastards.

[Lord_Moose]

thepyro13 wrote...
Government would get her over my dead body

10 creds says that Obama's played mass effect1/2 and would get a hang on the situation.

Complete Media Blackout on this is absolutley required, with as few people knowing about this as possible, otherwise i'd have to fight all of you for her :3

[KujaTheDarkOne2]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

KujaTheDarkOne2 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Kolaris8472 wrote...

Why did everyone talk him out of killing his nemesis? Even on my "Paragon" character I couldn't really justify it. Taking out the Blue Suns head merc is going to save a lot more lives than one bumbling idiot who could have just jumped down off of whatever he was talking to you from. Maybe he didn't clearly communicate what the dilemma was...

Logical, true, but try telling that to yourself in person over the screams of the men and women you can save right then and there if you choose to act.

It's a similar story with the hijacked military base that unleashes two Javelin Mk. II nuclear missiles. Save the strategic spaceport (which will allow rebuilding in the long term) or save hundreds of thousands of colonists (resulting in the destruction of the spaceport and the eventual evacuation of the colonists)? That one tore at me because I tend to take the long-term view and strategize but for me it came down to this: Government/military exists to protect it's citizens. While it is possible that saving the colonists might lead to more deaths in the future, there did not appear to be any continuous threat in that area beyond the immediate missile crisis. It would likely be of little comfort to the colonists to hear that they were sacrificed when they could have been saved by the press of a button simply to keep a strategic space port (which I might add, could also be rebuilt if the political will is present to do so). It's all to easy to have lose sight of the people you are supposed to be serving, whether it's in business or in government. They become numbers. When you have the opportunity to make a positive change for a person, it's something of a gift. Shepard echoes the same sentiment while speaking to an Asari on Illium. Not everyone gets the chance to make a difference.

I loved that decision with the Javelin Mk. II missiles. Such profound decison, with both choices having valid reasoning behind them... But of course I eventually went with saving the people. Though I found it strange that I received no Paragon/Renegade points for either action.

Yes! In fact, I disctinctly recall pressing the button to save the colonists' residential area and yet in my completed mission log it showed up as having chosen to save the space port! Bug perhaps?

Woah, really? I wonder if it said that in my mission log too... don't think I checked. If so, I'd definitely say it's a bug.

The main reason I know you don't get points is 'cause on my Renegade playthrough I was specifically trying to accrue Renegade points so I could pick Morinth.. (I was too nice to Tali, dammit! Left me with too little Renegade! XD) I thought for sure that mission would give me some points, but then I did it, and... nothing!

[Irensesvox]

damage incorp96 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...


Agreed. Collector Particle Beam FTW!

The Cain, baby, the Cain (aka. M-920 Cain)!

What's up with the Cain, haven't been able to fire it. It just hisses a little.

Probably needs ammo.  Gotta be close to 100% to fire it once.  Destroys everything, but make sure you don't miss

[AkA-AmdusciA_]

Jake71887 wrote...

damage incorp96 wrote...
What's up with the Cain, haven't been able to fire it. It just hisses a little.

You need a 100% charge before it'll fire. 

I almost killed myself the first time I used it <_<

[The_KFD_Case]

MasterMegatron wrote...

Lord_Moose wrote...

Quick, you are sitting wherever you may be, and this very moment an escape pod SMASHES into your room, causeing a lot of damage, but it remains in your room, not going through any more floors. The pod opens, and a very disoriented Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy exits the pod.
What happens?!
(Where you are presently, with everyone in the room there there, nothing changed. but a wall is mostly smashed because of said pod )

HOLY S***! You okay in there? Jesus Christ, my room... AAAAH!

Damn it all to hell woman! Do you have ANY idea how much insurance paperwork I'm going to have to go through?!?

[cdsmith0]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Ok I am never leaving the happy place that is tali thread again... I was in the Why mordin Dies thread and my blood pressure is going up from the Stupidity of a hold the line score that no one seems to be able to produce as a number.. I am going to stay in here where is nice and peaceful with my Tali...

Should have never left.

Yeah i have noticed that as well......this is the best group.

[KujaTheDarkOne2]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Ok I am never leaving the happy place that is tali thread again... I was in the Why mordin Dies thread and my blood pressure is going up from the Stupidity of a hold the line score that no one seems to be able to produce as a number.. I am going to stay in here where is nice and peaceful with my Tali...

Should have never left.

No, you never should have. Never leave the Tali love if you can avoid it. ^____^

[Jake71887]

AkA-AmdusciA wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

damage incorp96 wrote...
What's up with the Cain, haven't been able to fire it. It just hisses a little.

You need a 100% charge before it'll fire. 

I almost killed myself the first time I used it <_<

lol I DID kill myself the first time I used it... Damn husk ran in front of me right as it fired.... <_<

[The_KFD_Case]

damage incorp96 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

damage incorp96 wrote...

strange question - what's up with the trash compactor in his room?

I'm not sure. It seems like it's just there for show, as in "Look. We really went in to detail". It's a nice little touch but doesn't seem to really affect the actual game. I liken it to that "push-the-red-button-endlessly" phenomenon that hit the interwebs some years back. The mindless monotony of pressing the buttons somehow producing a pleasant experience.

Anyone also notice the security camera on his desk that is wired up to every room on the Normandy. I thought he was just the hired gun? Shouldn't Miranda have that feed?

I noticed it too. You can sift through the various cameras on the Normandy. I suspect Miranda has her own access connection in her quarters.

[KujaTheDarkOne2]

Lord_Moose wrote...

thepyro13 wrote...
Government would get her over my dead body

10 creds says that Obama's played mass effect1/2 and would get a hang on the situation.

Complete Media Blackout on this is absolutley required, with as few people knowing about this as possible, otherwise i'd have to fight all of you for her :3

You'd never beat me. I am the fiercest of warriors when defending mah Tali.