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[Scy Lancer]

Scalpels wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

Impossible even under SCIENCE! circumstances. DNA chain incompatibility. To alter either would destroy individual.

Thank you Doc..... FIX IT!

Can "fix" many things. Not wizard. Unable to change chirality. Adoption only possibility for Shepard/Tali or Shepard/Garrus romance.

Wow.... I guess there is only one thing
left for me to do then isn't there.
*stands up on a chair.* I defy
your logic and supplant it with my own! Ha ha ha.

[J_squared]

planguy wrote...

About the Liara thing, I never had trouble with her. First time she talks about their being an attraction between you just flat out tell her that's not the case. You don't even have to be a jerk to her, she just gets embarrassed that she misread the situation so badly.

About Tali being a plant being, probably not, but her planet doesn't have insect life so the rest of the planets life developed a weird symbiosis with their planets plant life to fill the gap. So maybe there is some neat plant stuff going on with her?

Thats the dialogue option im talking about, I did tell her that its not the case and she gave me the embarrased line but the next conversation with her is still one that is very noticeably part of the romance line.
And as to avoiding her completely, I suppose that would do it, I'm just trying to find something that won't require a restart.
I appreciate the replies though, I guess I'll just check back later.

[TLK Spires]

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[Snowraptor]

Yazman wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

knight5923 wrote...

planguy wrote...

So, Tali and Shep, would they adopt a kid? I mean, if they want to be parents it would be the only option. I don't think either of them would want to mess with the crazy amount of genetics it would take for them to actually meld their genes.

Honestly, there is more chance of Shepard having a kid with a pine tree then with Tali, considering a pine tree would have more in common genetically with him. Sad, but true.

Who knows, the universe is a crazy place. Different species can interbreed, and on rare occasions, it can produce viable offspring. Maybe with extensive screening or something it could work. It says in on of the novels that Quarians likely evolved from primates similar to those on earth, so maybe there's on off chance??

But if not, there's bound to be some little Quarians scampering around the flotilla looking to be adopted

Impossible even under SCIENCE! circumstances. DNA chain incompatibility. To alter either would destroy individual.

Normally yes, but somebody posted an excerpt from a 'dex entry or something (can't remember, it was a few hundred pages ago but was from an official source) that said its unknown if quarians can successfully interbreed or not. So they haven't really ruled it out, even if it is unlikely.

No u would still get better results with tali, a tree doesnt have a vagina, and no one said you cant use technology to create a half quarian human child... a monster

[Jake71887]

TLK Spires wrote...

posting to show support

Thanks, every post counts! 

[planguy]

Scalpels wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

Impossible even under SCIENCE! circumstances. DNA chain incompatibility. To alter either would destroy individual.

Thank you Doc..... FIX IT!

Can "fix" many things. Not wizard. Unable to change chirality. Adoption only possibility for Shepard/Tali or Shepard/Garrus romance.

Hey, what about using crazy Asari mind sex? They could get Liara, or someone, to meld their minds together. Effectively both Shepard and Tali could be the "father" of an Asari baby that would contain some of both their traits.

I'm still a fan of adoption, but that's one way they could have a kid that shares some of their traits.

[Jake71887]

Snowraptor wrote...

No u would still get better results with tali, a tree doesnt have a vagina, and no one said you cant use technology to create a half quarian human child... a monster

Trees don't have mouths either, but that doesn't stop Mary Catherine Gallagher

[mothbanquet]

Jake71887 wrote...

TLK Spires wrote...

posting to show support

Thanks, every post counts! 

And every reply!

[Yazman]

Wait what? Somebody here thinks quarians are 'plant beings' ??



Its not that.. the genetic difference is due to the chirality of their DNA. Quarians & Turians have DNA dominated by dextro-amino acids, whereas most other life is dominated by L or levo-amino acids. Basically their DNA is a "mirror" version of ours.

[mothbanquet]

Jake71887 wrote...

Snowraptor wrote...

No u would still get better results with tali, a tree doesnt have a vagina, and no one said you cant use technology to create a half quarian human child... a monster

Trees don't have mouths either, but that doesn't stop Mary Catherine Gallagher

Haha!  what a cretin!!

[Dark_Caduceus]

I'd laugh if Tali looked like a baby Thorian and gave birth to clones of herself. Then everyone would be happy.

[sergio71785]

sergio71785 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

You know, there's nothing stopping Tali from wearing a tshirt over her suit.

I'm going to get her one that says "I'm dating a Spectre", I'm sure they sell them in Hot Topics on the citadel.

Some guy: "Hey baby, nice shirt. Who are you dating, Blasto? Mr. Quarian-Make-Believe? Hahah.."

Tali: "Actually, his name is Shepard. There he is, back from his talk with Counselor Anderson"

Shepard: "Oh there you are Tali. Let's go get those parts we need for the Normandy, Anderson needs us to go check something out on Ilos"

Some guy: *Jaw dropped*

On second thought, I think this would work better with a female instead of a guy.

Snobby Asari: "*Scoffs* That's cute, sweetie. Who are you dating, Blasto? Mr. Quarian-Make-Believe? Hahah.."

Tali: "Actually, his name is Shepard. There he is, back from his talk with Counselor Anderson"

Shepard:
"Oh there you are Tali. Let's go get those parts we need for the
Normandy, Anderson needs us to go check something out on Ilos"

Snobby Asari: *Jaw dropped*

Modifié par sergio71785, 12 février 2010 - 08:39 .

[Angelraid]

Scalpels wrote...

knight5923 wrote...

planguy wrote...

So, Tali and Shep, would they adopt a kid? I mean, if they want to be parents it would be the only option. I don't think either of them would want to mess with the crazy amount of genetics it would take for them to actually meld their genes.

Honestly, there is more chance of Shepard having a kid with a pine tree then with Tali, considering a pine tree would have more in common genetically with him. Sad, but true.

Who knows, the universe is a crazy place. Different species can interbreed, and on rare occasions, it can produce viable offspring. Maybe with extensive screening or something it could work. It says in on of the novels that Quarians likely evolved from primates similar to those on earth, so maybe there's on off chance??

But if not, there's bound to be some little Quarians scampering around the flotilla looking to be adopted

Impossible even under SCIENCE! circumstances. DNA chain incompatibility. To alter either would destroy individual.

Children between the two is an impossiblitly. The list of reason is large and each item on it is nearly a definative proof that it won't work when looked at individually, not even considering them all at once.

Also plant beings are out if you want to be true to biological principles. At least plants in the way we classify them. Theres a reason trees dont walk around, their systems just arent designed for vigorious activity. Even if they had mechanisms for mobility, plant systems just don't move nuitrients around fast enough for active movement in the way other animals do. The best it could manage would be to move very very slowly.... to change it location or position over time. And I mean VERY SLOWLY.

And beside we already know that quarians eat, and don't photosynthesize to acquire energy.

[Scalpels]

Snowraptor wrote...

Yazman wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

knight5923 wrote...

planguy wrote...

So, Tali and Shep, would they adopt a kid? I mean, if they want to be parents it would be the only option. I don't think either of them would want to mess with the crazy amount of genetics it would take for them to actually meld their genes.

Honestly, there is more chance of Shepard having a kid with a pine tree then with Tali, considering a pine tree would have more in common genetically with him. Sad, but true.

Who knows, the universe is a crazy place. Different species can interbreed, and on rare occasions, it can produce viable offspring. Maybe with extensive screening or something it could work. It says in on of the novels that Quarians likely evolved from primates similar to those on earth, so maybe there's on off chance??

But if not, there's bound to be some little Quarians scampering around the flotilla looking to be adopted

Impossible even under SCIENCE! circumstances. DNA chain incompatibility. To alter either would destroy individual.

Normally yes, but somebody posted an excerpt from a 'dex entry or something (can't remember, it was a few hundred pages ago but was from an official source) that said its unknown if quarians can successfully interbreed or not. So they haven't really ruled it out, even if it is unlikely.

No u would still get better results with tali, a tree doesnt have a vagina, and no one said you cant use technology to create a half quarian human child... a monster

Scientist states impossible. Chirality makes DNA incompatible to form hybrid. One is poison to the other. Deviation from fundamental fact changes genre to high fantasy.

[Scy Lancer]

It's a game guys. Best part about fiction is writing for the imposable.

Quick fix with a few lines of dialog. "Good thing we invented the..... whatever machine."

[mothbanquet]

Scy Lancer wrote...

It's a game guys. Best part about fiction is writing for the imposable.
Quick fix with a few lines of dialog. "Good thing we invented the..... whatever machine."

Hear hear my friend.

[Angelraid]

dextro and lipo aren't nesessarily poisonous to each other. It's just that they may cuase unkown chemical reaction when combined. It might kill you just like a human takin cyanide would die. or it might do nothing at all like eating dirt.



but still, hybrids are impossible

[Scalpels]

planguy wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

Impossible even under SCIENCE! circumstances. DNA chain incompatibility. To alter either would destroy individual.

Thank you Doc..... FIX IT!

Can "fix" many things. Not wizard. Unable to change chirality. Adoption only possibility for Shepard/Tali or Shepard/Garrus romance.

Hey, what about using crazy Asari mind sex? They could get Liara, or someone, to meld their minds together. Effectively both Shepard and Tali could be the "father" of an Asari baby that would contain some of both their traits.

I'm still a fan of adoption, but that's one way they could have a kid that shares some of their traits.

Possible... unsure how Asari meld would work in triumvirate. However. Asari meld would not include genes of either. Asari use DNA of other species to shuffle own squence. Does not include sequences of other species. Process vaguely defined. Stated plainly in codex that no DNA is taken from "father" figure. Also unknown if Asari meld would work on Quarian/Turians. No mention made in-game. Meld is complex process. Results in single nervous system between two bodies. Pleasureable. Requires more study. Will check Shepard extranet links.

[sergio71785]

While I don't really want the story to attempt something far fetched like them having kids, I can see them pulling it off with some pseudo science. Some machine that "translates" genetic code from human DNA to quarian DNA; for example, whatever the DNA is needed to get Shepard's eye color would be converted into its Quarian equivalent (assuming they have eye colors, it's just an example). You do that with all of Shepard's human DNA, effectively making the DNA for a Quarian version of him (and whenever there is no equivalent, like in the different numbers of fingers, just use generic Quarian DNA; or better yet let Tali's DNA fill that in). Then you get "his" genetic information, mix it with Tali's, and let the oven run for however long it takes a Quarian to make a kid.

Modifié par sergio71785, 12 février 2010 - 08:52 .

[Yazman]

Scalpels wrote...

Snowraptor wrote...

Yazman wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

knight5923 wrote...

planguy wrote...

So, Tali and Shep, would they adopt a kid? I mean, if they want to be parents it would be the only option. I don't think either of them would want to mess with the crazy amount of genetics it would take for them to actually meld their genes.

Honestly, there is more chance of Shepard having a kid with a pine tree then with Tali, considering a pine tree would have more in common genetically with him. Sad, but true.

Who knows, the universe is a crazy place. Different species can interbreed, and on rare occasions, it can produce viable offspring. Maybe with extensive screening or something it could work. It says in on of the novels that Quarians likely evolved from primates similar to those on earth, so maybe there's on off chance??

But if not, there's bound to be some little Quarians scampering around the flotilla looking to be adopted

Impossible even under SCIENCE! circumstances. DNA chain incompatibility. To alter either would destroy individual.

Normally yes, but somebody posted an excerpt from a 'dex entry or something (can't remember, it was a few hundred pages ago but was from an official source) that said its unknown if quarians can successfully interbreed or not. So they haven't really ruled it out, even if it is unlikely.

No u would still get better results with tali, a tree doesnt have a vagina, and no one said you cant use technology to create a half quarian human child... a monster

Scientist states impossible. Chirality makes DNA incompatible to form hybrid. One is poison to the other. Deviation from fundamental fact changes genre to high fantasy.

Bioware hasn't completely ruled it out, and besides, its over 150 years in the future

[Angelraid]

mothbanquet wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

It's a game guys. Best part about fiction is writing for the imposable.
Quick fix with a few lines of dialog. "Good thing we invented the..... whatever machine."

Hear hear my friend.

Not trying to insult you, or start an arguement or rift or anything like that. But if you understood even the basic biology behind reproduction you would know that no machine could compensate for the differences that stand in the way.

Unless of course that machine was the child.....

I think Tali and Sheppard should adopt legion.

[mothbanquet]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

It's a game guys. Best part about fiction is writing for the imposable.
Quick fix with a few lines of dialog. "Good thing we invented the..... whatever machine."

Hear hear my friend.

Not trying to insult you, or start an arguement or rift or anything like that. But if you understood even the basic biology behind reproduction you would know that no machine could compensate for the differences that stand in the way.

Unless of course that machine was the child.....

I think Tali and Sheppard should adopt legion.

That's why we use magic and pixie dust!!  

[Yazman]

sergio71785 wrote...

While I don't really want the story to attempt something far fetched like them having kids, I can see them pulling it off with some pseudo science. Some machine that "translates" genetic code from human DNA to quarian DNA; for example, whatever the DNA is needed to get Shepard's eye color would be converted into its Quarian equivalent (assuming they have eye colors, it's just an example). You do that with all of Shepard's human DNA, effectively making the DNA for a Quarian version of him (and whenever there is no equivalent, like in the different numbers of fingers, just use generic Quarian DNA; or better yet let Tali's DNA fill that in). Then you get "his" genetic information, mix it with Tali's, and let the oven run for however long it takes a Quarian to make a kid.

Yeah, I see what you mean. You're talking about a Miranda-style creation of a child, using genetic modification of Tali's DNA in order to include some of Shepard's traits.

Thats actually an interesting idea

[planguy]

That would just be a modified clone-daughter of Tali. It's a way to go to produce a child that they could raise together, but it's not actually a melding of their DNA.

[Scy Lancer]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

It's a game guys. Best part about fiction is writing for the imposable.
Quick fix with a few lines of dialog. "Good thing we invented the..... whatever machine."

Hear hear my friend.

Not trying to insult you, or start an arguement or rift or anything like that. But if you understood even the basic biology behind reproduction you would know that no machine could compensate for the differences that stand in the way.

Unless of course that machine was the child.....

I think Tali and Sheppard should adopt legion.

Oh no. I get biology. But things happen
in nature like when a horse and a donkey mate you get a mule. Or
however that goes.
I'm just saying that fiction can change that. I
mean not everything in the ME Universe makes seance.

Also why
would they adopt Legion? He's a robot. Perfectly capable of taking
care of himself.