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[Scalpels]

Yazman wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

Snowraptor wrote...

Yazman wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

knight5923 wrote...

planguy wrote...

So, Tali and Shep, would they adopt a kid? I mean, if they want to be parents it would be the only option. I don't think either of them would want to mess with the crazy amount of genetics it would take for them to actually meld their genes.

Honestly, there is more chance of Shepard having a kid with a pine tree then with Tali, considering a pine tree would have more in common genetically with him. Sad, but true.

Who knows, the universe is a crazy place. Different species can interbreed, and on rare occasions, it can produce viable offspring. Maybe with extensive screening or something it could work. It says in on of the novels that Quarians likely evolved from primates similar to those on earth, so maybe there's on off chance??

But if not, there's bound to be some little Quarians scampering around the flotilla looking to be adopted

Impossible even under SCIENCE! circumstances. DNA chain incompatibility. To alter either would destroy individual.

Normally yes, but somebody posted an excerpt from a 'dex entry or something (can't remember, it was a few hundred pages ago but was from an official source) that said its unknown if quarians can successfully interbreed or not. So they haven't really ruled it out, even if it is unlikely.

No u would still get better results with tali, a tree doesnt have a vagina, and no one said you cant use technology to create a half quarian human child... a monster

Scientist states impossible. Chirality makes DNA incompatible to form hybrid. One is poison to the other. Deviation from fundamental fact changes genre to high fantasy.

Bioware hasn't completely ruled it out, and besides, its over 150 years in the future

Re-read codex entries regarding FTL, Weapons, Mass Effect Relays. All based in hard science. Some liberties taken. Mostly sound theory. Hints at attempt to make "realistic" universe. Mixing Chiralities is fundamental violation of physics. Not in-keeping with theme. Logic obviously not going to sway opinion. Perhaps should appeal to emotions. Shepard / Tali pairing "making it work" with adoption far more poignant than magic gadget to "fix" incompatibility. Overcoming issue without Deus Ex Machina makes relationship sweeter. Stronger. Have own mate. We pvercome many obstacles. Makes relationship stronger. Makes life better. No magic required.

[Yazman]

Either way I don't really see it as an issue, considering the incredible major and dangerous things they have been through and still not flinched, even death itself, something like that couldn't stand in the way

Scalpels: I never disagreed with you. I know plenty on the topic myself and you are correct  I was saying the same thing a few hundred pages ago hehe

Modifié par Yazman, 12 février 2010 - 09:02 .

[Confrence]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

It's a game guys. Best part about fiction is writing for the imposable.
Quick fix with a few lines of dialog. "Good thing we invented the..... whatever machine."

Hear hear my friend.

Not trying to insult you, or start an arguement or rift or anything like that. But if you understood even the basic biology behind reproduction you would know that no machine could compensate for the differences that stand in the way.

Unless of course that machine was the child.....

I think Tali and Sheppard should adopt legion.

Adopting Legion is like adopting 1100 kids, not to mention the rest of the Geth would be left out.

[sergio71785]

planguy wrote...

That would just be a modified clone-daughter of Tali. It's a way to go to produce a child that they could raise together, but it's not actually a melding of their DNA.

A really heavily modified clone of Tali! I'd say probably like 60% Tali genes and 40% Quarian-version-of-Shepard genes.

His traits like facial features, height, eye color, etc. etc. will be present in the child.

Overall yeah, none of his real genetic code would be there, but it'll still share many of his traits.

[Carcharoth42]

We are Legion... and Creator Tali' Zorah is our favorite love interest in the galaxy.

[planguy]

I agree with Scalpels on this. Adoption works best, and would be especially poingant if Shepard is one of the orphan origins.

[Angelraid]

Yazman wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

While I don't really want the story to attempt something far fetched like them having kids, I can see them pulling it off with some pseudo science. Some machine that "translates" genetic code from human DNA to quarian DNA; for example, whatever the DNA is needed to get Shepard's eye color would be converted into its Quarian equivalent (assuming they have eye colors, it's just an example). You do that with all of Shepard's human DNA, effectively making the DNA for a Quarian version of him (and whenever there is no equivalent, like in the different numbers of fingers, just use generic Quarian DNA; or better yet let Tali's DNA fill that in). Then you get "his" genetic information, mix it with Tali's, and let the oven run for however long it takes a Quarian to make a kid.

Yeah, I see what you mean. You're talking about a Miranda-style creation of a child, using genetic modification of Tali's DNA in order to include some of Shepard's traits.

Thats actually an interesting idea

Thats an good idea, except that if you altered the DNA structure in order to allo for compatibility with Quarian genetic makeup then the DNA is no longer that of Sheppards and thus not actually a child between the two. And also not a hybrid. Just to clarify for you non biologists, using the example given regarding eye colour. If shepard had brown eyes and you translated it to the quarian equivalent for brown eyes the sequence used would no longer be sheppards but a sequence derived from the genetics of another quarian established to produce that trait.

So yes you could produce a child like this. But it wouldn't be a cross between a human and a quarian. It would essentially be impregnating Tali w/ a doner sperm (or w/e quarians use) with genetic trait selection from the quarian gene pool. Still 100% quarian, w/ no sheppard in the mix, but w/ some traits from some other random quarian dudes.

[Scy Lancer]

Scalpels wrote...


Re-read codex entries regarding FTL, Weapons, Mass Effect Relays. All based in hard science. Some liberties taken. Mostly sound theory. Hints at attempt to make "realistic" universe. Mixing Chiralities is fundamental violation of physics. Not in-keeping with theme. Logic obviously not going to sway opinion. Perhaps should appeal to emotions. Shepard / Tali pairing "making it work" with adoption far more poignant than magic gadget to "fix" incompatibility. Overcoming issue without Deus Ex Machina makes relationship sweeter. Stronger. Have own mate. We pvercome many obstacles. Makes relationship stronger. Makes life better. No magic required.

Well said Doc. I see adoption more realistic. human or quarian... maybe one of both. You still can't rule out the fact that some people would want them to have a kid naturaly... or semi naturaly. The development team could be working on a way to make it work.

[Scalpels]

Been stimulating. Must return to experiments. Possible thermal issue. Must monitor closely.



Keelah Se'lai.

[Scy Lancer]

planguy wrote...

I agree with Scalpels on this. Adoption works best, and would be especially poingant if Shepard is one of the orphan origins.

Agreed. It would also work with the other origins as well. I can see a lot of orphans at the end of the Reaper wars.

[Scy Lancer]

Scalpels wrote...

Been stimulating. Must return to experiments. Possible thermal issue. Must monitor closely.

Keelah Se'lai.

.....Man.... This dude stays in character.

[Dark_Caduceus]

Tali is a sexy hoe.

[planguy]

Scy Lancer wrote...

planguy wrote...

I agree with Scalpels on this. Adoption works best, and would be especially poingant if Shepard is one of the orphan origins.

Agreed. It would also work with the other origins as well. I can see a lot of orphans at the end of the Reaper wars.

Oh, man, for a spacer origin Shepard there would be a grandma Shepard. Awesome.

[Angelraid]

Confrence wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

It's a game guys. Best part about fiction is writing for the imposable.
Quick fix with a few lines of dialog. "Good thing we invented the..... whatever machine."

Hear hear my friend.

Not trying to insult you, or start an arguement or rift or anything like that. But if you understood even the basic biology behind reproduction you would know that no machine could compensate for the differences that stand in the way.

Unless of course that machine was the child.....

I think Tali and Sheppard should adopt legion.

Adopting Legion is like adopting 1100 kids, not to mention the rest of the Geth would be left out.

The geth aren't individuals, The geth is an individual. Legion suffers from a minor syntax error. Hopefully in ME3 sheppard can explain it to him, which would go along way to helping him understand organic races and himself.

Also I think it would be the perfect match. Legion is intelligent but his understanding is still adolescent and sheppard and Tali could teach him alot about the universe.

[sergio71785]

Wrex will get a female Krogan pregnant, die during the Reaper attack, and Shepard/Tali will adopt the mini-Wrex.

And while growing up, they'll constantly be asked questions like "In a fight between mommy and daddy, who'll win?"

Modifié par sergio71785, 12 février 2010 - 09:15 .

[Dark_Caduceus]

Where does all this "Is tali a bi-sexual talk?"come from?

[st0icr4ven]

I was really hoping to find out what Tali looked like. . . . . .DENIED -sad face- Maybe she'll finally be reveled in ME3.

[planguy]

sergio71785 wrote...

Wrex will get a female Krogan pregnant, die during the Reaper attack, and Shepard/Tali will adopt the mini-Wrex.

And while growing up, they'll constantly be asked questions like "In a fight between mommy and daddy, who'll win?"

I lol'd. The only downside I see is that it requires Wrex to die.

[sergio71785]

Okay, Wrex doesn't die. Instead he gets a female Krogan pregnant, she dies during birth, and he asks Shepard/Tali to take care of him as Tuchanka is too dangerous for the baby Wrex due to Wrex's numerous enemies.

[Angelraid]

but dont all the females live in one clan and raise all the children together?

[Scy Lancer]

sergio71785 wrote...

Wrex will get a female Krogan pregnant, die during the Reaper attack, and Shepard/Tali will adopt the mini-Wrex.

And while growing up, they'll constantly be asked questions like "In a fight between mommy and daddy, who'll win?"

I could see it working better with mini-Grunt. And again I don't see him or Wrex dieing any time soon.
Funny though though.

[sergio71785]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

but dont all the females live in one clan and raise all the children together?

Yeah but Wrex would be worried that his child would specifically be targetted or something by other clan leaders. Listen, it's either that or Wrex dies

[sergio71785]

Furthermore, "Have you and uncle Garrus ever fought? Who won?"

[Angelraid]

sergio71785 wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

but dont all the females live in one clan and raise all the children together?

Yeah but Wrex would be worried that his child would specifically be targetted or something by other clan leaders. Listen, it's either that or Wrex dies

That makes sense.

[Scy Lancer]

sergio71785 wrote...

Furthermore, "Have you and uncle Garrus ever fought? Who won?"

Shepard: Doesn't mater. I'm more handsome now.
Garrus: Thats cold.