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[MrRandomletters]

Driving Ghost wrote...

Hehe, for her, removing the mask was already a big step.

Seriously, i'm sorry you see me as a naysayer, but it just what i think.
Not that I would mind if they had sex, your Fan Fic had it and I didn't mind, infact, din't you say you were going to write another?

But her problems after romance just convince me that it was only kissing.

I for one am really glad that Tali didn't go into detail about the repercussions of sex with Shepard. Knowing she has a cough from kissing is one thing, I'd hate to imagine the rest. xD

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Thank you! Glad to have your active participation. The more the merrier and kudos to you on your salient and cordially phrased points. They are spot on, IMO:

Thanks a bunch! Glad to be here.

Modifié par MrRandomletters, 12 février 2010 - 01:29 .

[The_KFD_Case]

Yazman wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Yazman wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Driving Ghost wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Correctomundo my friend! Oh, and as for "putting some time in her"....That's not the only thing I'd like to put in her ifyouknowwhati'msaying.

You win.

Edit: Unless it kills her.

Would it kill her ?

It didn't the first time she was with Shepard. Perhaps that has set a precedent or perhaps it is a case of Russian roulette every time Tali and Shepard shack up. I very much hope it is the former and not the latter.

Of course its not a case of russian roulette  After enough time together anyway her immune system will adjust. 

So you say and I personally favour that approach, however it is not unrealistic that the alternative could be true. Malaria or diarrhea are survivable without treatment (though your odds are worse of for it,) but can still kill you if experienced again later on. Other examples exist but those two came to my mind first. Ok, technically it is not the diarrhea itself that can lead to death, but the dehydration and stress it places on the body. Under the right (or wrong as the case may be) conditions it can be lethal.

Yeah, KFD, you're talking about diseases.. which is just completely an inappropriate analogy. We're talking about an immune system reaction. This is no different to what Quarians go through with each other - its described in detail in-game how there is a period of time before two can be in the same atmosphere as each other without having sickness etc. Shepard isn't a disease!

I disagree. It is wholly appropriate because my examples specify that the diseases can be survived without treatment yet can still pose a health risk if encountered at a future date (i.e. the immune system can adequately protect you on that occasion but may not manage to do the same in the future). Ergo, while Tali's immune system functioned well enough for her not to die from intimate activities with Shepard the first time, it is by no means a guarantee that she couldn't die from it if a future session were to transpire. Personally I do not want that to be the case yet it is scientifically possible.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 12 février 2010 - 01:34 .

[Driving Ghost]

Yazman wrote...

Quarians and Turians aren't nearly the same at all. Its only the chirality of their DNA that is the same. It is said that biologically, and in terms of their appearance they are very much like humans.

Also lol @ Driving Ghost claiming they didn't have sex :lol:

Seriously this is what they meant when they said that they don't feel like they have to show naked bodies in order for it to be a sex scene. Going by the standard of what Driving Ghost is saying there can't really said to have been sex with a few of the others either. But they are sex scenes nonetheless.. the fact you don't see Turian **** or Quarian ****** doesn't mean they didn't have sex.

You don't need sex to have a romance.
Also, I'm not claiming they dint have sex, i'm just THINKING they've only kissed, maybe heavily.

You're kinda making it personal.

Modifié par Driving Ghost, 12 février 2010 - 01:30 .

[nitefyre410]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

And for all you naysayers that think Shep and Tali only kissed:

2 years of built up emotions for the sexiest guy in the galaxy (to her..)
And the fact that she's a young girl in her prime with RAGING HORMONES.

Yeeeahh no




(RAGING HORMONES!)

This. And the fact that she's never been intimate with anyone before, so likely also has a massive amount of curiosity coupled to the raging hormones. Come to think of it, it's quite remarkable that Shepard didn't leave his cabin a wheel chair.

 


 *Shepherd walks into the Briefing a Bit gingerly*   

*Tali walks in rather stiff but  humming a happy tune*      

Miranda looks at Samara, then Samara  looks are  Tali then back to Miranada who then looks at Shepherd and then looks are  Jack who can barely contain her laugher.   

Jack: 'So it was that good huh?"    

Tali: Yep    

[Jake71887]

Driving Ghost wrote...

You don't need sex to have a romance. I'm not claiming they dint have sex, i'm just THINKING they've only kissed, maybe heavily. 

You're kinda making it personal.

Sure you don't need it, but it makes the romance all the sweeter 

[Driving Ghost]

MrRandomletters wrote...

Driving Ghost wrote...

Hehe, for her, removing the mask was already a big step.

Seriously, i'm sorry you see me as a naysayer, but it just what i think.
Not that I would mind if they had sex, your Fan Fic had it and I didn't mind, infact, din't you say you were going to write another?

But her problems after romance just convince me that it was only kissing.

I for one am really glad that Tali didn't go into detail about the repercussions of sex with Shepard. Knowing she has a cough from kissing is one thing, I'd hate to imagine the rest. xD

Well thats what you can get from having a weak immune system.

[The_KFD_Case]

DeathsHands5 wrote...

Heh, it's not like there's specific kinds of fevers one can get by sex...

So, yeah. They had sex. And enjoyed it.

*cough cough* jungle fever *cough cough*

Sorry, bad joke.

[Yazman]

Driving Ghost wrote...

Yazman wrote...

Quarians and Turians aren't nearly the same at all. Its only the chirality of their DNA that is the same. It is said that biologically, and in terms of their appearance they are very much like humans.

Also lol @ Driving Ghost claiming they didn't have sex :lol:

Seriously this is what they meant when they said that they don't feel like they have to show naked bodies in order for it to be a sex scene. Going by the standard of what Driving Ghost is saying there can't really said to have been sex with a few of the others either. But they are sex scenes nonetheless.. the fact you don't see Turian **** or Quarian ****** doesn't mean they didn't have sex.

You don't need sex to have a romance.
Also, I'm not claiming they dint have sex, i'm just THINKING they've only kissed, maybe heavily.

You're kinda making it personal.

Personal...? How? I'm just saying even some Bioware staff commented on the stuff you're saying because more people with your view complained about the sex scenes in ME2 not having any nudity.

Just because its no nudity it doesn't mean it ain't a sex scene

[The_KFD_Case]

nitefyre410 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

And for all you naysayers that think Shep and Tali only kissed:

2 years of built up emotions for the sexiest guy in the galaxy (to her..)
And the fact that she's a young girl in her prime with RAGING HORMONES.

Yeeeahh no




(RAGING HORMONES!)

This. And the fact that she's never been intimate with anyone before, so likely also has a massive amount of curiosity coupled to the raging hormones. Come to think of it, it's quite remarkable that Shepard didn't leave his cabin a wheel chair.

 


 *Shepherd walks into the Briefing a Bit gingerly*   

*Tali walks in rather stiff but  humming a happy tune*      

Miranda looks at Samara, then Samara  looks are  Tali then back to Miranada who then looks at Shepherd and then looks are  Jack who can barely contain her laugher.   

Jack: 'So it was that good huh?"    

Tali: Yep    

Heheheheeee! I like it.

[iusty]

many pages ago apotheosic wrote...

anyway, back to tali subjects.
[...]
I dont care what she looks like, so long as she is Tali-tastic!

Very well said, IMHO 

[Driving Ghost]

Lol this conversation about if they've had sex or not is realy great for getting us to 500 pages rite?

[JK_darrou]

nitefyre410 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

And for all you naysayers that think Shep and Tali only kissed:

2 years of built up emotions for the sexiest guy in the galaxy (to her..)
And the fact that she's a young girl in her prime with RAGING HORMONES.

Yeeeahh no




(RAGING HORMONES!)

This. And the fact that she's never been intimate with anyone before, so likely also has a massive amount of curiosity coupled to the raging hormones. Come to think of it, it's quite remarkable that Shepard didn't leave his cabin a wheel chair.

 


 *Shepherd walks into the Briefing a Bit gingerly*   

*Tali walks in rather stiff but  humming a happy tune*      

Miranda looks at Samara, then Samara  looks are  Tali then back to Miranada who then looks at Shepherd and then looks are  Jack who can barely contain her laugher.   

Jack: 'So it was that good huh?"    

Tali: Yep    

emm wtf man

[Jake71887]

Let's just say dem hips got slightly more bowed, and leave it at that...  

[GHyland]

Every other romance, cept garrus and tali and thane, you knew it was sex. (And I only know through YouTube, I can't romance anyone else!!)



What's stopping it from being that for any other character... I mean, hell, mordin was gonna give you vids and lube and oils etc lol...



Love to Tali!!!

[Yazman]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Yazman wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Yazman wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Driving Ghost wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Correctomundo my friend! Oh, and as for "putting some time in her"....That's not the only thing I'd like to put in her ifyouknowwhati'msaying.

You win.

Edit: Unless it kills her.

Would it kill her ?

It didn't the first time she was with Shepard. Perhaps that has set a precedent or perhaps it is a case of Russian roulette every time Tali and Shepard shack up. I very much hope it is the former and not the latter.

Of course its not a case of russian roulette  After enough time together anyway her immune system will adjust. 

So you say and I personally favour that approach, however it is not unrealistic that the alternative could be true. Malaria or diarrhea are survivable without treatment (though your odds are worse of for it,) but can still kill you if experienced again later on. Other examples exist but those two came to my mind first. Ok, technically it is not the diarrhea itself that can lead to death, but the dehydration and stress it places on the body. Under the right (or wrong as the case may be) conditions it can be lethal.

Yeah, KFD, you're talking about diseases.. which is just completely an inappropriate analogy. We're talking about an immune system reaction. This is no different to what Quarians go through with each other - its described in detail in-game how there is a period of time before two can be in the same atmosphere as each other without having sickness etc. Shepard isn't a disease!

I disagree. It is wholly appropriate because my examples specify that the diseases can be survived without treatment yet can still pose a health risk if encountered at a future date. Ergo, while Tali's immune system functioned well enough for her not to die from intimate activities with Shepard the first time, it is by no means a guarantee that she couldn't die from it if a future session were to transpire. Personally I do not want that to be the case yet it is scientifically possible.

But diseases are something different altogether. What we're talking about is an environmental issue.. and its already been specified in-game by Raan and others that, depending on the case it can be relatively short or long, all it takes is an adjustment period for their body to get used to a new environment. Of course the first few times there are some health risks but over time things build up to the point where there are no more health risks anymore.

[nitefyre410]

[quote]Driving Ghost wrote...

[quote]MrRandomletters wrote...

[quote]Driving Ghost wrote...

Hehe, for her, removing the mask was already a big step.

Seriously, i'm sorry you see me as a naysayer, but it just what i think.
Not that I would mind if they had sex, your Fan Fic had it and I didn't mind, infact, din't you say you were going to write another?

But her problems after romance just convince me that it was only kissing. [/quote]


I for one am really glad that Tali didn't go into detail about the repercussions of sex with Shepard. Knowing she has a cough from kissing is one thing, I'd hate to imagine the rest. xD
[/quote]

Hey a mind blowing Orgasm is worth a nasty cough and a head ache.  from what she says... 

[OldMan91]

How does a gif of a stormtrooper help the discussion!?

[PMorgan18]

nitefyre410 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

And for all you naysayers that think Shep and Tali only kissed:

2 years of built up emotions for the sexiest guy in the galaxy (to her..)
And the fact that she's a young girl in her prime with RAGING HORMONES.

Yeeeahh no




(RAGING HORMONES!)

This. And the fact that she's never been intimate with anyone before, so likely also has a massive amount of curiosity coupled to the raging hormones. Come to think of it, it's quite remarkable that Shepard didn't leave his cabin a wheel chair.

 


 *Shepherd walks into the Briefing a Bit gingerly*   

*Tali walks in rather stiff but  humming a happy tune*      

Miranda looks at Samara, then Samara  looks are  Tali then back to Miranada who then looks at Shepherd and then looks are  Jack who can barely contain her laugher.   

Jack: 'So it was that good huh?"    

Tali: Yep    

Thats good but I think Tali would say something like it was amazing.

Giggity, giggity

[The_KFD_Case]

Yazman wrote...

Driving Ghost wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

And for all you naysayers that think Shep and Tali only kissed:

2 years of built up emotions for the sexiest guy in the galaxy (to her..)
And the fact that she's a young girl in her prime with RAGING HORMONES.

Yeeeahh no




(RAGING HORMONES!)

Hehe, for her, removing the mask was already a big step.

Seriously, i'm sorry you see me as a naysayer, but it just what i think.
Not that I would mind if they had sex, your Fan Fic had it and I didn't mind, infact, din't you say you were going to write another?

But her problems after romance just convince me that it was only kissing.

Thats bizarre dude. None of the sex scenes in ME2 are as explicit as in ME1 but to say they aren't sex scenes and that they aren't having sex as a result is just kinda silly to me.. 

I personally think Miranda's romance scene shows much more than ME1's scenes did. Both Jack's and Miranda's romance scenes strike me as waaayyy more raunchy. I don't mind one bit.

[Driving Ghost]

Yazman wrote...

Driving Ghost wrote...

Yazman wrote...

Quarians and Turians aren't nearly the same at all. Its only the chirality of their DNA that is the same. It is said that biologically, and in terms of their appearance they are very much like humans.

Also lol @ Driving Ghost claiming they didn't have sex :lol:

Seriously this is what they meant when they said that they don't feel like they have to show naked bodies in order for it to be a sex scene. Going by the standard of what Driving Ghost is saying there can't really said to have been sex with a few of the others either. But they are sex scenes nonetheless.. the fact you don't see Turian **** or Quarian ****** doesn't mean they didn't have sex.

You don't need sex to have a romance.
Also, I'm not claiming they dint have sex, i'm just THINKING they've only kissed, maybe heavily.

You're kinda making it personal.

Personal...? How? I'm just saying even some Bioware staff commented on the stuff you're saying because more people with your view complained about the sex scenes in ME2 not having any nudity.

Just because its no nudity it doesn't mean it ain't a sex scene

Personal because your directing it at me.

And I'm not complaining that it does not involve nudity. I find it the best romance scene there is because it involves Tali and you realy feel that Shepard is going to be the first to see her face, the thing she hasn't trusted anybody else with.

Just to take of the suit all the sudden just seem a bit too much and too dangerous for quarians.

[Jake71887]

OldMan91 wrote...

How does a gif of a stormtrooper help the discussion!?

How doesn't it?!?! 

[Yazman]

GHyland wrote...

Every other romance, cept garrus and tali and thane, you knew it was sex. (And I only know through YouTube, I can't romance anyone else!!)

What's stopping it from being that for any other character... I mean, hell, mordin was gonna give you vids and lube and oils etc lol...

Love to Tali!!!

By the logic they use its not a sex scene because you don't see it happening like in ME1.. thats all. Seems like a weird conclusion to make tbh

[nitefyre410]

JK_darrou wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

And for all you naysayers that think Shep and Tali only kissed:

2 years of built up emotions for the sexiest guy in the galaxy (to her..)
And the fact that she's a young girl in her prime with RAGING HORMONES.

Yeeeahh no




(RAGING HORMONES!)

This. And the fact that she's never been intimate with anyone before, so likely also has a massive amount of curiosity coupled to the raging hormones. Come to think of it, it's quite remarkable that Shepard didn't leave his cabin a wheel chair.

 


 *Shepherd walks into the Briefing a Bit gingerly*   

*Tali walks in rather stiff but  humming a happy tune*      

Miranda looks at Samara, then Samara  looks aat Tali then back to Miranada who then looks at Shepherd and then looks at  Jack who can barely contain her laugher.   

Jack: 'So it was that good huh?"    

Tali: Yep    

emm wtf man

 


 If i have to explain it you will never get  the joke. 

[The_KFD_Case]

Yazman wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Yazman wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Yazman wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Driving Ghost wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Correctomundo my friend! Oh, and as for "putting some time in her"....That's not the only thing I'd like to put in her ifyouknowwhati'msaying.

You win.

Edit: Unless it kills her.

Would it kill her ?

It didn't the first time she was with Shepard. Perhaps that has set a precedent or perhaps it is a case of Russian roulette every time Tali and Shepard shack up. I very much hope it is the former and not the latter.

Of course its not a case of russian roulette  After enough time together anyway her immune system will adjust. 

So you say and I personally favour that approach, however it is not unrealistic that the alternative could be true. Malaria or diarrhea are survivable without treatment (though your odds are worse of for it,) but can still kill you if experienced again later on. Other examples exist but those two came to my mind first. Ok, technically it is not the diarrhea itself that can lead to death, but the dehydration and stress it places on the body. Under the right (or wrong as the case may be) conditions it can be lethal.

Yeah, KFD, you're talking about diseases.. which is just completely an inappropriate analogy. We're talking about an immune system reaction. This is no different to what Quarians go through with each other - its described in detail in-game how there is a period of time before two can be in the same atmosphere as each other without having sickness etc. Shepard isn't a disease!

I disagree. It is wholly appropriate because my examples specify that the diseases can be survived without treatment yet can still pose a health risk if encountered at a future date. Ergo, while Tali's immune system functioned well enough for her not to die from intimate activities with Shepard the first time, it is by no means a guarantee that she couldn't die from it if a future session were to transpire. Personally I do not want that to be the case yet it is scientifically possible.

But diseases are something different altogether. What we're talking about is an environmental issue.. and its already been specified in-game by Raan and others that, depending on the case it can be relatively short or long, all it takes is an adjustment period for their body to get used to a new environment. Of course the first few times there are some health risks but over time things build up to the point where there are no more health risks anymore.

I edited my previous post, but not in time apparently. The point I was illustrating with the two aforementioned diseases is this: The immune system can overcome various illnesses, infections, viruses, diseases, etc. yet just because it does so on one occasion does not mean it will be successful the next time it encounters the same illness, infection, virus or disease. Hence the reference to Russian roulette.

[nitefyre410]

PMorgan18 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

And for all you naysayers that think Shep and Tali only kissed:

2 years of built up emotions for the sexiest guy in the galaxy (to her..)
And the fact that she's a young girl in her prime with RAGING HORMONES.

Yeeeahh no




(RAGING HORMONES!)

This. And the fact that she's never been intimate with anyone before, so likely also has a massive amount of curiosity coupled to the raging hormones. Come to think of it, it's quite remarkable that Shepard didn't leave his cabin a wheel chair.

 


 *Shepherd walks into the Briefing a Bit gingerly*   

*Tali walks in rather stiff but  humming a happy tune*      

Miranda looks at Samara, then Samara  looks are  Tali then back to Miranada who then looks at Shepherd and then looks are  Jack who can barely contain her laugher.   

Jack: 'So it was that good huh?"    

Tali: Yep    

Thats good but I think Tali would say something like it was amazing.

Giggity, giggity

 


 LOL nice to see someone that got the joke...