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[A Blind Bandit]

Happy news! Come August it looks like we will be seeing the first wave of Mass effect 2 figures from DC Direct! In the first wave we have:
Male Sheperd
Grunt
Thane
and....
Tali!
Here's a picture of them. i15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/CONNOR2059/masseffecttwofigures.jpg

[apotheosic]

wow. over 500 pages and still running strong. golly.

Tali would be proud! or at least mildly creeped out.

[Forest03]

@BigKahuna

That's what exactly what I meant. Side missions and endless Mako driving excluded, all the characters from ME1 have something significant to contribute to the ME game world. ME2 had us gather several team members, yet their casualty rate increases drastically if we didn't do their silly little "loyalty" quests. Cannon fodder. That's all they are. Might as well have recruited the Mercs; at least if they die, no one would care.

I have no issues with the gameplay [Addendum. Oh wait. Yes I do, but it has to do with UI bugs, collision errors, and combat mechanics]. I'm more interested in what BioWare has done, and in some cases neglected to do, with the plot elements of each character.

Modifié par Forest03, 12 février 2010 - 07:10 .

[BLACKOUT228]

Beware the Pounce!

[turelhimvampire]

mothbanquet wrote...

turelhimvampire wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Damn comments just won't go above 3. the the f*ck do I have to do, offer a sketch and a handjob????

Be patient! I'm having too much fun in here to spare the time to read all of it.

Whenever a new section is posted I go back and read the previous sections again to appreciate the complete picture. It makes proof reading my own work a real pain in the ass, but makes for a good way to catch little SNAFU's and other mistakes.

Rest assured that you ARE good.

Hand jobs.... not required.

Bleiev me mate, this isn't about my ego for once.  It's about breaking a mathematical pattern that seems to be plaguing my blog!

It is ALWAYS about ego. Remember, if there is anything more important than your ego it should be caught and shot.

[mothbanquet]

turelhimvampire wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Bleiev me mate, this isn't about my ego for once.  It's about breaking a mathematical pattern that seems to be plaguing my blog!

It is ALWAYS about ego. Remember, if there is anything more important than your ego it should be caught and shot.

i can't help what I am

[FsDxRAGE]

BLACKOUT228 wrote...

Beware the Pounce!

Tali or The Woo?

[TheSorrow1175]

BLACKOUT228 wrote...

Beware the Pounce!

The pounce is never something to be feared fool! Remember step 6 of the program!
http://social.bioware.com/group/1394/

[turelhimvampire]

mothbanquet wrote...

turelhimvampire wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Bleiev me mate, this isn't about my ego for once.  It's about breaking a mathematical pattern that seems to be plaguing my blog!

It is ALWAYS about ego. Remember, if there is anything more important than your ego it should be caught and shot.

i can't help what I am

Seeeeee? My point exactly!

I have a little saying I like to remind people of whenever anyone mentions my ego, and it goes something like this:

"I'm not egotistical, you're all just jealous."

[BigKahuna25]

yup and 5 just go with it

[reteka]

I want a figure of Tali!!!!, and maybe of all the crew.... I won't play with that figures...only for... decoration xDDDD

[sm00thie88]

Going to get a smoke - hell I've been writing for too long now.

So before I leave you all alone I want to avoid any head crushing, so time for some Tali love

Modifié par sm00thie88, 12 février 2010 - 07:12 .

[BLACKOUT228]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

BLACKOUT228 wrote...

Beware the Pounce!

Tali or The Woo?

Wild Tali's... Never fear the woo!

[FatherNestor]

Just small idea: would be nice to see Tali actually making use of that knife she's carrying with her all the time...

[FsDxRAGE]

BLACKOUT228 wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

BLACKOUT228 wrote...

Beware the Pounce!

Tali or The Woo?

Wild Tali's... Never fear the woo!

True, we have Tank Cat to deal with him

[TheSorrow1175]

To all Steam group users:

This platform is currently unable to participate in group discussions. We are unable to maintain unit cohesion. We are attempting to correct the issue, but feel free to carry on without up. Kilmor Seargent will be able to conduct discussions in our place.

And Speak Not Of The Woo:bandit:

Modifié par TheSorrow1175, 12 février 2010 - 07:13 .

[turelhimvampire]

FatherNestor wrote...

Just small idea: would be nice to see Tali actually making use of that knife she's carrying with her all the time...

As an 4 year IT veteran, I can tell you all with 100% certainty what that knife is for:

It's a case-splitter.

[FsDxRAGE]

FatherNestor wrote...

Just small idea: would be nice to see Tali actually making use of that knife she's carrying with her all the time...

i guarantee you that there will be some epic fight cinematic in ME3 where she uses it. I can see BioWare doing that

[Roninraver]

BigKahuna25 wrote...

Forest03 wrote...

DarchAngelDavid wrote...
I dont see why anyone would worry about that happening.  It is not like when they did the fans a service in ME2 it came with a poor story.  They will keep things solid in ME3 and all things Tali will be even better then they were in this game.

Sadly, ME2 is indeed poorly written. In terms of having a cohesive narrative, ME1 is far superior. There was way too much filler in ME2. Someone else has called ME2 a "grocery list", and that's pretty much what it is. Only Legion, Tali, Miranda, and Mordin (and the outcomes of their personal missions - except for Miranda's) have done anything to greatly affect the ME universe. Yeah, the game was awesome; the missions well designed; some of the background stories were interesting. But overall, aside from the four I mentioned, everyone else is just cannon fodder.

At least, they compensated with Liara's and Ashley/Kaidan's minimal interaction in ME2 with the comics, but I was still disappointed at how they glossed over so many things. The trouble is that this game world is massive - perhaps too much so - for BioWare to successfully incorporate everything into three games (unless the third ends up having 3 dvd's plus a 4th for a short film).

I mentioned elsewhere that ME2 is merely a narrative bridge. I have huge expectations of ME3.

Anyways. Enough of my rambling. Carry on with the Tali goddess worship

too much filler in ME2? when was the last time you played ME1 the only missions that weren't filler were the plot worlds, none of the side missions had ANYTHING to do with the story.

I think what is being referenced here is how the ratio of time spent moving the story forward vs. puttering around.  I think most would agree that every squadmate's aquisition and loyalty mission counts as a "story" mission, as opposed to the N7 type sidequests.  Now how many of those squadmate missions progress the story of the game, and edge you toward the final conflict?  Not a one.  They are all story missions as they progress -A- story, but none of them get you any closer to the confrontation with the collectors.  In ME:2, the main plot happens on what... ?  Freedom's Progress, Horizon, the derelict Reaper, then Collector Base.  I think that's all of it, everything else is (or could be if the game would let you) entirely optional.

This is opposed to ME:1, where every "story" planet you landed on brought you one step closer to cold-cocking Sovereign.  Every time you set foot on those story worlds, you knew that some serious main plot was about to be laid on you.  100% plot-to-story bearing world ratio.

So in  ME: 1, you have 6 (Feros, Noveria, Liara's planet thingy, Virmire, Illos, Citadel) planets with actual story on them, and 6 planets that progress the main story.

In ME:2, you have uhm... crap.  A LOT more planets with story stuff on them, but only the four with actual mission-critical junk that needs to be done to start wailing on some Collectors.  I'd ballpark this as maybe 20% of the planets with a story mission on them actually have anything to do with the game's plot.

I think it's this gross imbalance between the mission-critical story elements and the "optional-not-necessary" story elements of your squadmates that leads to it feeling like a trip to the grocery store.

[sergio71785]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

FatherNestor wrote...

Just small idea: would be nice to see Tali actually making use of that knife she's carrying with her all the time...

i guarantee you that there will be some epic fight cinematic in ME3 where she uses it. I can see BioWare doing that

Hah, yeah. They'll be at Harbinger's core or something, some large mechanical arm will have Shepard pinned, and Tali suddenly reaches for the knife, throws it at Harbinger's optics (go for the optics!), and it'll release Shepard and he precedes to blow it up.

[BigKahuna25]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

FatherNestor wrote...

Just small idea: would be nice to see Tali actually making use of that knife she's carrying with her all the time...

i guarantee you that there will be some epic fight cinematic in ME3 where she uses it. I can see BioWare doing that

in the final fight after being stabbed with it she pulls it out and throws it in harbinger's face and we all win.  no wait.... that's something else.

[FatherNestor]

sergio71785 wrote...

Hah, yeah. They'll be at Harbinger's core or something, some large mechanical arm will have Shepard pinned, and Tali suddenly reaches for the knife, throws it at Harbinger's optics (go for the optics!), and it'll release Shepard and he precedes to blow it up.

Somehow this reminds me of a MW2 ending...

[Forest03]

reteka wrote...

I want a figure of Tali!!!!, and maybe of all the crew.... I won't play with that figures...only for... decoration xDDDD

Hand-painted cast figurines would be awesome (even if they were just resin). Some of those BIY kits and pre-made poseables are just... blegh!

[reteka]

FatherNestor wrote...

Just small idea: would be nice to see Tali actually making use of that knife she's carrying with her all the time...

It will be a EPIC scene of ME3.... I don't believe that Bioware will use it....