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[The Quarian Sympathizer]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

I agree with your observations about Liara's changes, however she did not work for the Shadow Broker. Liara was/is actively trying to find the Shadow Broker and shut him/her/it down permanently. Furthermore, Shepard owes Liara a huge debt of gratitude. It was Liara, not Tali, nor Ashley/Kaiden, nor any of the other former party members who tracked down Shepard's dead body and then contacted Cerberus to have them bring him back to life. Love her or hate her, Liara is the individual with the single most responsibility for seeing Shepard back alive and in the process she has lost something of herself that she may perhaps never truly reclaim. That she has also possibly lost Shepard as her love (if the player opted to romance her in ME1) is about as tragic as it comes.

Source?

Liara speaks of her crusade against the Shadow Broker when you first meet her on Illium. As for finding his body that's in the first Mass Effect comic book which ships with the Collector's Edition. I'm not sure if anyone has scanned it and placed it online, so sadly no directly linkable source at present (I bought the CE and read the comic that came with it - it's pretty short but looks nice). I don't recall whether Liara mentions any of this during your meeting with her?

No, Liara never mentions that she was the one that located and gave Shepard's corpse to Cerberus.

[mothbanquet]

RaoulG4668 wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Admiral-165 wrote...

YAY! i check there everyday... what category is it under?

Mass Effect,  Shepard/Tali,  Sci-fi/romance.   Don't think it'll be ready just yet though mate, only just submitted.  It's my next step towards superstardom...

I look forward to reading it, after all I'm bored as hell since I can't play my ME2...*pouts* 

Gasp!  Why you poor soul, come in, come in.  *Pours cup of hot cocoa*

Now why don't you tell us all about it?

[Admiral-165]

valttu wrote...

xSolclaim wrote...

Tali is my favourite character second only to legion, but he seems under-used. i wish there will be some big quarian revalation in me3 or i can somehow show tali and legions "Friendship" to help the quarians make peace.

Yeah. Would be pretty ******* epic if the "good geth", led by Legion, helped the Quarians to fight the heretic geth!!!

Yeah, i had a theory before that ME3 would be kinda like DA:O where you have to go around and unite the galaxy against the reapers... this means settling the Quarian-Geth conflict...

[The_KFD_Case]

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

Speaking of the Geth and Tali, I was never clear on how Tali really felt about going to war with them or finding somewhere else to live. Every time the subject came up I got mixed responses from her.

Could anyone who paid more attention clear this up?

Well, Tali does state that she respects the peace advocating admiral's point of view although she disagrees with him. That needn't mean she advocates war however, but perhaps instead simply does not believe it is possible to negotiate a peace with the Geth (and why would she? She has apparently only had contact with the Heretics who want to see all organic life eradicated).

[mothbanquet]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

I agree with your observations about Liara's changes, however she did not work for the Shadow Broker. Liara was/is actively trying to find the Shadow Broker and shut him/her/it down permanently. Furthermore, Shepard owes Liara a huge debt of gratitude. It was Liara, not Tali, nor Ashley/Kaiden, nor any of the other former party members who tracked down Shepard's dead body and then contacted Cerberus to have them bring him back to life. Love her or hate her, Liara is the individual with the single most responsibility for seeing Shepard back alive and in the process she has lost something of herself that she may perhaps never truly reclaim. That she has also possibly lost Shepard as her love (if the player opted to romance her in ME1) is about as tragic as it comes.

Source?

Liara speaks of her crusade against the Shadow Broker when you first meet her on Illium. As for finding his body that's in the first Mass Effect comic book which ships with the Collector's Edition. I'm not sure if anyone has scanned it and placed it online, so sadly no directly linkable source at present (I bought the CE and read the comic that came with it - it's pretty short but looks nice). I don't recall whether Liara mentions any of this during your meeting with her?

She does.  You do all her side missions and ask her to talk and she opens up to you.  i forgave her but i still didn't see why she couldn't come.  Oh well, her loss Tali's gain

[RaoulG4668]

mothbanquet wrote...

RaoulG4668 wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Admiral-165 wrote...

YAY! i check there everyday... what category is it under?

Mass Effect,  Shepard/Tali,  Sci-fi/romance.   Don't think it'll be ready just yet though mate, only just submitted.  It's my next step towards superstardom...

I look forward to reading it, after all I'm bored as hell since I can't play my ME2...*pouts* 

Gasp!  Why you poor soul, come in, come in.  *Pours cup of hot cocoa*

Now why don't you tell us all about it?

The red ring of death, it nearly ate my disc 2! I opened the disc tray just SECONDS before it hit. It was horrible, alas, I salvaged my hard drive and my Tali, along with the game. 

[Admiral-165]

mothbanquet wrote...

RaoulG4668 wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Admiral-165 wrote...

YAY! i check there everyday... what category is it under?

Mass Effect,  Shepard/Tali,  Sci-fi/romance.   Don't think it'll be ready just yet though mate, only just submitted.  It's my next step towards superstardom...

I look forward to reading it, after all I'm bored as hell since I can't play my ME2...*pouts* 

Gasp!  Why you poor soul, come in, come in.  *Pours cup of hot cocoa*

Now why don't you tell us all about it?

lol hot cocoa well i'm looking forward to reading it then... hopefully its an original story and not a retelling of the ME2 story kinda like other fin fics >.> not mentioning any names

[The Quarian Sympathizer]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

Speaking of the Geth and Tali, I was never clear on how Tali really felt about going to war with them or finding somewhere else to live. Every time the subject came up I got mixed responses from her.

Could anyone who paid more attention clear this up?

Well, Tali does state that she respects the peace advocating admiral's point of view although she disagrees with him. That needn't mean she advocates war however, but perhaps instead simply does not believe it is possible to negotiate a peace with the Geth (and why would she? She has apparently only had contact with the Heretics who want to see all organic life eradicated).

So then she's on the fence about it all? I wonder if your decisions and opinions on the subject with both Tali and Legion in ME2 will effect her decision AND the decisions of the fleet. Damn, I hate how the most subtle opinions you have could effect an entire species.

[Admiral-165]

RaoulG4668 wrote...
The red ring of death, it nearly ate my disc 2! I opened the disc tray just SECONDS before it hit. It was horrible, alas, I salvaged my hard drive and my Tali, along with the game. 

That sux that's why i always get PC games...

[The_KFD_Case]

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

I agree with your observations about Liara's changes, however she did not work for the Shadow Broker. Liara was/is actively trying to find the Shadow Broker and shut him/her/it down permanently. Furthermore, Shepard owes Liara a huge debt of gratitude. It was Liara, not Tali, nor Ashley/Kaiden, nor any of the other former party members who tracked down Shepard's dead body and then contacted Cerberus to have them bring him back to life. Love her or hate her, Liara is the individual with the single most responsibility for seeing Shepard back alive and in the process she has lost something of herself that she may perhaps never truly reclaim. That she has also possibly lost Shepard as her love (if the player opted to romance her in ME1) is about as tragic as it comes.

Source?

Liara speaks of her crusade against the Shadow Broker when you first meet her on Illium. As for finding his body that's in the first Mass Effect comic book which ships with the Collector's Edition. I'm not sure if anyone has scanned it and placed it online, so sadly no directly linkable source at present (I bought the CE and read the comic that came with it - it's pretty short but looks nice). I don't recall whether Liara mentions any of this during your meeting with her?

No, Liara never mentions that she was the one that located and gave Shepard's corpse to Cerberus.

Ok, well it's covered in the official comic book. If you didn't buy the CE version did one of your friends? It illustrates how Liara goes to Omega to meet up with Thane and is attacked by mercenaries (Blue Suns I think?) in an effort to track down a Shadow Broker contact so they can reclaim Shepard's body. Apparently the Shadow Broker wants to sell it to the Collectors whereas Cerberus has been working with Liara to get it for their Lazarus project.

[mothbanquet]

Admiral-165 wrote...

valttu wrote...

xSolclaim wrote...

Tali is my favourite character second only to legion, but he seems under-used. i wish there will be some big quarian revalation in me3 or i can somehow show tali and legions "Friendship" to help the quarians make peace.

Yeah. Would be pretty ******* epic if the "good geth", led by Legion, helped the Quarians to fight the heretic geth!!!

Yeah, i had a theory before that ME3 would be kinda like DA:O where you have to go around and unite the galaxy against the reapers... this means settling the Quarian-Geth conflict...

That makes the most sense.  Think of all the worlds you could visit this tie around

[Admiral-165]

The_KFD_Case wrote...
Ok, well it's covered in the official comic book. If you didn't buy the CE version did one of your friends? It illustrates how Liara goes to Omega to meet up with Thane and is attacked by mercenaries (Blue Suns I think?) in an effort to track down a Shadow Broker contact so they can reclaim Shepard's body. Apparently the Shadow Broker wants to sell it to the Collectors whereas Cerberus has been working with Liara to get it for their Lazarus project.

i got the CE edition and thats pretty much what happens in the comic book...

[nitefyre410]

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

Speaking of the Geth and Tali, I was never clear on how Tali really felt about going to war with them or finding somewhere else to live. Every time the subject came up I got mixed responses from her.

Could anyone who paid more attention clear this up?

 


She is torn... she wants her people to have a home but war with  Geth would  devastate the Quarians if  not  push them to the brink of  Extinction.  There fleet is aging wrecks....  Still she is sick of living in the  suit.   She is really torn on the matter an sees it as a no win for  them either way... You get a good sense of her feelings about  the war with Geth during her loyalty mission...She is just plain frustrated. 

[The_KFD_Case]

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

Speaking of the Geth and Tali, I was never clear on how Tali really felt about going to war with them or finding somewhere else to live. Every time the subject came up I got mixed responses from her.

Could anyone who paid more attention clear this up?

Well, Tali does state that she respects the peace advocating admiral's point of view although she disagrees with him. That needn't mean she advocates war however, but perhaps instead simply does not believe it is possible to negotiate a peace with the Geth (and why would she? She has apparently only had contact with the Heretics who want to see all organic life eradicated).

So then she's on the fence about it all? I wonder if your decisions and opinions on the subject with both Tali and Legion in ME2 will effect her decision AND the decisions of the fleet. Damn, I hate how the most subtle opinions you have could effect an entire species.

Good times, eh my friend?! We'll make a commanding officer out of you yet! *slaps you on the back*

[RaoulG4668]

Admiral-165 wrote...

RaoulG4668 wrote...
The red ring of death, it nearly ate my disc 2! I opened the disc tray just SECONDS before it hit. It was horrible, alas, I salvaged my hard drive and my Tali, along with the game. 

That sux that's why i always get PC games...

Indeed, I recently bought an amazing custom Alienware Aurora from a friend (only $150 for everything and it works great). Of course, there was a catch, the OS was wiped so I could build my gaming experience from the ground up, therefore I'm running Linux until I can afford Windows 7 and my Tali. 

Modifié par RaoulG4668, 13 février 2010 - 02:59 .

[FsDxRAGE]

Yazman wrote...

It is truly a beautiful person Bioware created

this. Tali has such a great personality

[Divulse456]

Good morning peeps. Up over 600 pages now huh? Tali love is strong like truck! Keep it rolling. Keelah se'lai!

[The Quarian Sympathizer]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

I agree with your observations about Liara's changes, however she did not work for the Shadow Broker. Liara was/is actively trying to find the Shadow Broker and shut him/her/it down permanently. Furthermore, Shepard owes Liara a huge debt of gratitude. It was Liara, not Tali, nor Ashley/Kaiden, nor any of the other former party members who tracked down Shepard's dead body and then contacted Cerberus to have them bring him back to life. Love her or hate her, Liara is the individual with the single most responsibility for seeing Shepard back alive and in the process she has lost something of herself that she may perhaps never truly reclaim. That she has also possibly lost Shepard as her love (if the player opted to romance her in ME1) is about as tragic as it comes.

Source?

Liara speaks of her crusade against the Shadow Broker when you first meet her on Illium. As for finding his body that's in the first Mass Effect comic book which ships with the Collector's Edition. I'm not sure if anyone has scanned it and placed it online, so sadly no directly linkable source at present (I bought the CE and read the comic that came with it - it's pretty short but looks nice). I don't recall whether Liara mentions any of this during your meeting with her?

No, Liara never mentions that she was the one that located and gave Shepard's corpse to Cerberus.

Ok, well it's covered in the official comic book. If you didn't buy the CE version did one of your friends? It illustrates how Liara goes to Omega to meet up with Thane and is attacked by mercenaries (Blue Suns I think?) in an effort to track down a Shadow Broker contact so they can reclaim Shepard's body. Apparently the Shadow Broker wants to sell it to the Collectors whereas Cerberus has been working with Liara to get it for their Lazarus project.

Liara and Thane? Sounds like a non-canon fanfic to me.

[The_KFD_Case]

Admiral-165 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
Ok, well it's covered in the official comic book. If you didn't buy the CE version did one of your friends? It illustrates how Liara goes to Omega to meet up with Thane and is attacked by mercenaries (Blue Suns I think?) in an effort to track down a Shadow Broker contact so they can reclaim Shepard's body. Apparently the Shadow Broker wants to sell it to the Collectors whereas Cerberus has been working with Liara to get it for their Lazarus project.

i got the CE edition and thats pretty much what happens in the comic book...

Cheers Admiral.

[Admiral-165]

mothbanquet wrote...
That makes the most sense.  Think of all the worlds you could visit this tie around

Hoepfully we can visit Earth this time >.> i think it would be cool to land in Edmonton and see the Bioware headquarters of the future

[The Final Frontier]

Admiral-165 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
Ok, well it's covered in the official comic book. If you didn't buy the CE version did one of your friends? It illustrates how Liara goes to Omega to meet up with Thane and is attacked by mercenaries (Blue Suns I think?) in an effort to track down a Shadow Broker contact so they can reclaim Shepard's body. Apparently the Shadow Broker wants to sell it to the Collectors whereas Cerberus has been working with Liara to get it for their Lazarus project.

i got the CE edition and thats pretty much what happens in the comic book...

Just a minor note. The drell is not Thane, the drell's name is Feron. 

[The_KFD_Case]

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

I agree with your observations about Liara's changes, however she did not work for the Shadow Broker. Liara was/is actively trying to find the Shadow Broker and shut him/her/it down permanently. Furthermore, Shepard owes Liara a huge debt of gratitude. It was Liara, not Tali, nor Ashley/Kaiden, nor any of the other former party members who tracked down Shepard's dead body and then contacted Cerberus to have them bring him back to life. Love her or hate her, Liara is the individual with the single most responsibility for seeing Shepard back alive and in the process she has lost something of herself that she may perhaps never truly reclaim. That she has also possibly lost Shepard as her love (if the player opted to romance her in ME1) is about as tragic as it comes.

Source?

Liara speaks of her crusade against the Shadow Broker when you first meet her on Illium. As for finding his body that's in the first Mass Effect comic book which ships with the Collector's Edition. I'm not sure if anyone has scanned it and placed it online, so sadly no directly linkable source at present (I bought the CE and read the comic that came with it - it's pretty short but looks nice). I don't recall whether Liara mentions any of this during your meeting with her?

No, Liara never mentions that she was the one that located and gave Shepard's corpse to Cerberus.

Ok, well it's covered in the official comic book. If you didn't buy the CE version did one of your friends? It illustrates how Liara goes to Omega to meet up with Thane and is attacked by mercenaries (Blue Suns I think?) in an effort to track down a Shadow Broker contact so they can reclaim Shepard's body. Apparently the Shadow Broker wants to sell it to the Collectors whereas Cerberus has been working with Liara to get it for their Lazarus project.

Liara and Thane? Sounds like a non-canon fanfic to me.

It's anything but fanfic though.

[Disastersaurus]

What an age we live in.

[The_KFD_Case]

Admiral-165 wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...
That makes the most sense.  Think of all the worlds you could visit this tie around

Hoepfully we can visit Earth this time >.> i think it would be cool to land in Edmonton and see the Bioware headquarters of the future

Yes! I don't really mind where on Earth, yet I would love to have a mission from Earth and be able to land there in the final Shepard game.

[valttu]

mothbanquet wrote...

Admiral-165 wrote...

valttu wrote...

xSolclaim wrote...

Tali is my favourite character second only to legion, but he seems under-used. i wish there will be some big quarian revalation in me3 or i can somehow show tali and legions "Friendship" to help the quarians make peace.

Yeah. Would be pretty ******* epic if the "good geth", led by Legion, helped the Quarians to fight the heretic geth!!!

Yeah, i had a theory before that ME3 would be kinda like DA:O where you have to go around and unite the galaxy against the reapers... this means settling the Quarian-Geth conflict...

That makes the most sense.  Think of all the worlds you could visit this tie around

Yep. This will most likely be the story of ME3. Gonna be epic... All da friggen races fightin' togetha' to kill dem reaperzz..!