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All Tali fans, read this! IT'S UP TO US TO KEEP TALI ALIVE! 2.0!!


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sergio71785 wrote...

It seems pretty obvious that BioWare originally intended all recruitment missions (or at least Tali and Legion's, going by these posts), to be open from the get-go.

I can imagine they chose to limit how many recruitment missions there'll be at a time, due to probable negative feedback from testers. I imagine some of them may have felt it was too overwhelming to have that many options, and that they wanted some direction.

I respect their choice to break up the recruitment into two sections, but I think it would've been really cool if they just unlocked all of them if you import an ME2 save, since if you've already beaten the game, you probably wouldn't feel too overwhelmed if you had all recruitment missions available at the start.


Same
The only dissapointing thing really from ME2 for me is having to suffer 4 dossiers without Tali <_<

But then it becomes epic once you get Tali again ^_^



I do too Mike, I do too...

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SteelEagleShane wrote...

AddoExAtrum wrote...

tykfa1990 wrote...

AddoExAtrum wrote...

Well off to bed guys. Keep Tali alive!

Sleep well, btw it is 09:00 AM in Poland :P

Actually I stumbled into the Legion fan forums and I camea cross something Awesome.... How to have Tali from the first time you have the Normandy! Yes thats right folks... new conversation options? Who knows! Legion actually has some neat stuff to say if you have him when you go get Jack.... When I told Jack it wasnt smart to be my enemy Legion says "High statistical probability of death by gunshot. A fist to the face is also a possibility"

Who knows what Tali will have to say the first time you see Garrus? Or Jack?

"Thanks to the internet and it's many intelligent users (/sarcasm) a way to have Legion from the beginning of ME2 is possible.

Step
1) Download and install this tool allowing you to edit the Coalesced
(File that contains weapon, squad, mission, and other game data):
http://social.biowar...m/project/1854/
Step 2) Open it up, and search for the folder you have ME2 installed to.
Step 3) Use the search bar and search for "SFXGame.BioSFHandler_PartySelection"
Step 4) Find "AvailableLabel=IsSelectableGeth" and change "Geth" to "Leading"
Step 5) Click on the Rebuild Coalesced tab
Step 6) Enjoy Legion ingame, his loyalty mission and everything else should work just fine

Notes:
You can edit a lot of things with the Coalesced editor, such as giving
weapons more ammo, making shotguns useful, adding the ability to use
five weapons as any non-Soldier class, and more.
Legion apparently has audio (voice, opinions, etc) for nearly every mission in ME2.
"

Special thanks to Soldier989 for this post!

For making Tali available in Step 4 do this

Step 4) Find "AvailableLabel=IsSelectableTali" and change "Tali" to "Leading"

Enjoy all! Looks like Tali really did join you after you saved Veetor!

Good stuff. Tell uz if she has great convo options!


Quoted in the hack for you. More tali commentary here as I am on Mordin's mission right now

The dead Turian in the plague area. Tali says : It looks like he tried to claw his way out. What a horrible way to die.

letting the sick batarian die Tali says: Diseases never let you die with dignity.

Entering vorcha area
Tali says: Looks like we have crossed into Vorcha terrority. The blue suns have lost a lot of ground, the vorcha must be winning the war.

#17453
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AddoExAtrum wrote...

tykfa1990 wrote...

AddoExAtrum wrote...

tykfa1990 wrote...

SteelEagleShane wrote...

AddoExAtrum wrote...

I love when you get poisoned in Omega with Tali in yer party... She goes right for her pistol :D She does give some good commentary in the Garrus mission too btw guys.

Oh? What does she say?

You mean Garrus loyalty mission? Or the hacked way to have Tali at Garrus Recruitment?

The hacked way to have Tali at start. Legion and Tali both have some nice commentary on the mission. She doesn't make any comments about seeing her old squad mate thou. Just little comments here and there like any character would. I think its funny that a character you cannot have at this point in the game has sound bytes thou.

Maybe bioware is going to let you use your full squad selection on imported games later on? I mean Tali and legion both should not have comments when you first jump onto the bridge unless they had planned to let you have them legitimately

Yeah, that is surely not a coincidence. The only reasonable explanation may be, that they decided of the recruitment quest line after making those levels ready. And did not remembered to delete unusefull files.

I am also nearly sure that there are plenty of unused dialogues made by Liz Soroka, that were not used in the game. ( or yet used ) :).


Here is another one for you. Taking Tali to enter the Quarantine for the first time....
Tali: "My suit filters out every known germ, bacteria, and allergin. I shouldn't have a problem unless it is breached"
Legion : "This platform is immune to organic disease"
They definately wanted or considered letting you have Tali at this point. perhaps it is possible to simply fly around doing scanned missions until the first Collector incident and then recruit tali and that is why she has lines here?


Image IPBHuh? I thought that the next group of recruits was triggered by your getting the first four.. I didn't think it was just a trigger from so many missions you've done.

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sergio71785 wrote...

The Tali fan base is pretty split on whether or not they should reveal Tali's face. Though it seems most do want to see it. I'm pretty positive that they will show it in ME3.

They can't avoid the question of what exactly a Quarian looks like forever, and they may as well reveal it with everyone's favorite Quarian.


Yeahhhhh. Taaaliii ma favorite person in da whole wooorlddd... :wub:

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SirThugsAlot wrote...

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Enjoy, really nice art by http://johnjoseco.deviantart.com/


Heh, we got that a few pages ago :D

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It might be that doing the first 4 triggers it. I haven't tried ignoring the recruitment entirely and scanning planets for missions in the available areas to test this theory. I was just stating it MIGHT be possible to go do a bunch of the side missions instead to open the other recruitment missions early.



To busy playing with my hacked Tali and hearing her give me new voice data :D

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Whoa ..699 pages, keep it up !!!


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Omg page 700 is just around the corner... The Talimancers are unstoppable.

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SirThugsAlot wrote...

Image IPB
Enjoy, really nice art by http://johnjoseco.deviantart.com/


Awww! That is a lovely Valentine's Day card, IMO.:wub:

But no Valentine's for me this year. Maybe next year.

Apropos Valentine's Day, did you know that apparently the day is named after a monk who went by the name Valentine? One story goes that the monk Valentine was imprisoned and/or executed by a Constantine emperor because he secretly wed young men who were soldiers with the women they loved. The emperor in question had apparently outlawed this practice because he felt it made his soldiers less likely to fight to the death.

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Have to say I am disappointed in Mordin thou... If you take Garrus on the Mordin mission he actually scans Garrus and administers a treatment. Garrus even coughs a bit and mentions how hot it is getting. He doesn't love tali thou no scans for her!

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Our love for Tali rages on :D We love you Tali'Zorah vas Normandy :)

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Ooo I spoke to soon. Tali pipes in and says "This is bigger than just humanity. We need to set old grudges aside and go after the Collectors!" Wow.... Tali saying to put it aside and work with cerberus....

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AddoExAtrum wrote...

Have to say I am disappointed in Mordin thou... If you take Garrus on the Mordin mission he actually scans Garrus and administers a treatment. Garrus even coughs a bit and mentions how hot it is getting. He doesn't love tali thou no scans for her!


...doesn't her suit keep her from getting sick in this mission?

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Almost.... almost....


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sergio71785 wrote...

It seems pretty obvious that BioWare originally intended all recruitment missions (or at least Tali and Legion's, going by these posts), to be open from the get-go.

I can imagine they chose to limit how many recruitment missions there'll be at a time, due to probable negative feedback from testers. I imagine some of them may have felt it was too overwhelming to have that many options, and that they wanted some direction.

I respect their choice to break up the recruitment into two sections, but I think it would've been really cool if they just unlocked all of them if you import an ME2 save, since if you've already beaten the game, you probably wouldn't feel too overwhelmed if you had all recruitment missions available at the start.


That could have worked too. Personally I'm somewhat in agreement with the criticism that we can instantly see in which system and on which planet, ship or base, etc. our recruitable party members are at. It might have been fun having to explore before finding them. Then again, perhaps it turned out to be too much of a chore (which then begs the question as to why surveying was included. lol I would prefer a much faster scanning system in ME3 with the option to land planetside with a vehicle or on foot to gather resources/go on missions).

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 14 février 2010 - 10:09 .


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700 PAGES MEN!



PUSH!



FOR TALIIIIIIII!

#17467
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For Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy!!!



*charges but falls asleep*

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Tali'Zorah vas Normandy, by my side and in my heart, in Mass Effect 3! Tali FTW! BioWare ARE YOU FEELIN DIS'!?!?!? YA FEELIN DA LUVVV!?!?!?!?!??! <33333333333333

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I like that Tali character. She's Quarian and isn't afraid to hack your enemies into submission.

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Talimancers = Win +Pi

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sergio71785 wrote...

The Tali fan base is pretty split on whether or not they should reveal Tali's face. Though it seems most do want to see it. I'm pretty positive that they will show it in ME3.

They can't avoid the question of what exactly a Quarian looks like forever, and they may as well reveal it with everyone's favorite Quarian.


They could avoid it if they wanted to, but there would be some significant dissatisfaction amongst their fans if they opted for that course. ^_^ As you say, they may as well reveal what Quarians look like especially since this will presumably be Shepard's last adventure with us. That being the case who better than our lovely Ms. Tali'Zorah vas Normandy to showcase the Quarian features? :innocent:

FACE REVEAL OF TALI POST HASTE, BIOWARE! Thanks. That is all. :D

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Tali Tali Tali Tali!

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ComTrav wrote...

AddoExAtrum wrote...

Have to say I am disappointed in Mordin thou... If you take Garrus on the Mordin mission he actually scans Garrus and administers a treatment. Garrus even coughs a bit and mentions how hot it is getting. He doesn't love tali thou no scans for her!


...doesn't her suit keep her from getting sick in this mission?


She is under fire a lot you know... It might have ruptured? A stray bullet nicks the arm and creates a small breech? Shes quarian for whatever god a salarian might pray to! Gotta be safe!

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Carcharoth42 wrote...

Talimancers = Win


IT IS DA EPIC WIN MA BREDDA! WEEE WWWWINNNN DIS BATTLE FOR TALI !!! DAT ASS! DEM HIPS!!!<3

#17475
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The_KFD_Case wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

The Tali fan base is pretty split on whether or not they should reveal Tali's face. Though it seems most do want to see it. I'm pretty positive that they will show it in ME3.

They can't avoid the question of what exactly a Quarian looks like forever, and they may as well reveal it with everyone's favorite Quarian.


They could avoid it if they wanted to, but there would be some significant dissatisfaction amongst their fans if they opted for that course. ^_^ As you say, they may as well reveal what Quarians look like especially since this will presumably be Shepard's last adventure with us. That being the case who better than our lovely Ms. Tali'Zorah vas Normandy to showcase the Quarian features? :innocent:

FACE REVEAL OF TALI POST HASTE, BIOWARE! Thanks. That is all. :D


agreed 100%