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[Xena_Shepard]

mothbanquet wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Has anybody gotten a really bad feeling that Tali won't be a teammate in ME3 but have a diminished role because of the fact that she could die in ME3...I mean if all of your teammates can die in ME3, BioWare would have a really tough time and a lot of work to someone meet some pre-set teammate quota if they were gonna bring the ME2 teammates back AND make some new teammates...Y'know for those people that lost a bunch of their team in ME2.

The thought crossed my mind and it got me really worried...'Cause now that I think about it...Tali as a squadmate in ME3 seems kind of unlikely :/

I think BioWare will have all their bases covered.  Whoever dies can be replaced, perhaps with members of the original crew?

But you gotta think of it from a work point of view, say ME3 comes out in a couple years, say that they have 10 squadmates again, ok if they go the route of "We'll have all the ME2 squadmates as possible squadmates" assuming they even use that kind of system.

That means they'd have to invent 7 new characters (I say 7 because Wrex, Ashley/Kaidan, and Liara are likely to come back as teammates, though they are also plauged by the whole "they could be dead" issue, which makes it even more confusing.

OK so they have to make 7 new characters, AND record dialogue for TWENTY characters, that's an INSANE amount of VA time and money.

Also considering that EA will likely be pressuring them to get ME3 out in a couple years...I have a baaaaad feeling about it.

Though they could view ME3 as they should, since it's the final, "go big or go home"

[TheSorrow1175]

AM50 wrote...

Why did the other thread get shut down?

Too much stuff. Mod closed it down, invited us to start new one

[knight5923]

AM50 wrote...

Why did the other thread get shut down?

it's awesomeness was too much for Stan-the-man to take, so he closed er up and said to start another

[GuyWithFace]

MarauderESP wrote...

arf.... xDDDD wow version 2.0 good KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK PPL, they will have to say tali will be on me3 and will be recruitable and continued LI (and a good end to it) for us stop ^^

Your sig is buggered up. You have the / before the first img, it should be blahblahlink.

[The_KFD_Case]

mothbanquet wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Indeed.  What the f**k were we talking about?

Being a bit rough with Tali in bed and her not being a "rice krispie" apparently.

I like cereal.  Could do with some Tali on toast right about now!!

Hell, Tali can wake me up any morning...In fact, any night as well.

[Sageless Ranger]

Alex_The_Bloody wrote...

I suppose i must have slipped up and lost someones lyalty without noticing as i know the only way to save your whole crew is to have full loyalty but what about upgrading Mordins omni-tool getting grunt the shotty upgrade does that effect surviveability as well or is it only the ship upgrades that really come into play in that regard.

Your  teammmate probabaly died in the vents because you didnt push the buttons fast enough?

[Admiral-165]

AM50 wrote...

Why did the other thread get shut down?

it went up to 380 pages and got shut down...

[Litos456]

Bah

This thread will never be the same. The old one was awesome, so much good fanart and other fun stuff going around.

Anyway, guys I got bad news. The creator of the space fairy tale video didn't respond to me again (he did once), so I was unable to receive the footage I needed for the video.

Thus, the Tali video that I promised must wait till next weekend. Sorry, but I'll make sure it'll be short and nice. You'll all love it. I mean you'll technically love anything that contributes to Tali even if it's poo but you'll love this one.

[Indie Thompson]

AM50 wrote...

Why did the other thread get shut down?

Stanly closed it cause it was too long.
380 pages is the limit i guess =P



Anyway, gtg go to work in 5 hours, time to get some sleep. 

Keelah Se'lai.

Modifié par Indie Thompson, 08 février 2010 - 12:21 .

[SerSpiffy]

i repeat: what would happen if we KGB "is Tali'Zorah gonna be in Mass Effect 3?"



they have to answer to the best of their ability, it's their job.

[Collider]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Has anybody gotten a really bad feeling that Tali won't be a teammate in ME3 but have a diminished role because of the fact that she could die in ME3...I mean if all of your teammates can die in ME3, BioWare would have a really tough time and a lot of work to somehow meet some pre-set teammate quota if they were gonna bring the ME2 teammates back AND make some new teammates...Y'know for those people that lost a bunch of their team in ME2.

The thought crossed my mind and it got me really worried...'Cause now that I think about it...Tali as a squadmate in ME3 seems kind of unlikely :/

It's more work creating new characters with their own design, models, textures, voice actor, personality, and history - than just using existing characters. Bioware would be smart to have ME3 squadmates be a combination of ME1 and ME2. For those who ****ed up the suicide mission, they should have to deal with the consequences, or replay the game (or reload a save). New players to ME3 can just have a canon backstory where everyone survived.

[AkA-AmdusciA_]

Alex_The_Bloody wrote...

I suppose i must have slipped up and lost someones lyalty without noticing as i know the only way to save your whole crew is to have full loyalty but what about upgrading Mordins omni-tool getting grunt the shotty upgrade does that effect surviveability as well or is it only the ship upgrades that really come into play in that regard.

You need the ship upgrades thats all, oh and have you tried to send legion into the vents? Thats what I did and it worked out fine^^ Garrus 4 squadleader both times, Jacob as crew escort and Samara 4 biotic. Everyone was loyal and nobody died

Modifié par AkA-AmdusciA , 08 février 2010 - 12:26 .

[TheSorrow1175]

Collider wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Has anybody gotten a really bad feeling that Tali won't be a teammate in ME3 but have a diminished role because of the fact that she could die in ME3...I mean if all of your teammates can die in ME3, BioWare would have a really tough time and a lot of work to somehow meet some pre-set teammate quota if they were gonna bring the ME2 teammates back AND make some new teammates...Y'know for those people that lost a bunch of their team in ME2.

The thought crossed my mind and it got me really worried...'Cause now that I think about it...Tali as a squadmate in ME3 seems kind of unlikely :/

It's more work creating new characters with their own design, models, textures, voice actor, personality, and history - than just using existing characters. Bioware would be smart to have ME3 squadmates be a combination of ME1 and ME2. For those who ****ed up the suicide mission, they should have to deal with the consequences, or replay the game (or reload a save). New players to ME3 can just have a canon backstory where everyone survived.

Well if new players default playthrough didnt have Tali in it they wouldn't know what they were missing mow would they? But keeping the old characters alive from ME1 to ME2 added a load of extra depth to the story, so I have high hopes that Bioware will continue their success for ME3

[mothbanquet]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Kinda reminds me of woodstock.  Except I wasn't there.  And it's nothing like it.

Ok, it's like an insane cosplay brothel, there i said it.

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There is definitely a distinctive "mande hørm" in this thread. That translates in to "man funk" but when used in a social context, as it is on this occasion, refers more to the male bravado and camaraderie that often crops up in all-male gatherings rather than body odour.

On a truly serious note, all I can say is I'm glad I wasn't still in afghanistan when ME2 was released.  Or rather i'm not there now, forced from the girl I love, and my missus, while the feeling's so strong.

I love all you guys and your Taliphilia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm glad on your behalf as well, Moth. From what I read, see and hear it's a rough all over down there and not the kind of place one wants to be distracted by these sorts of emotions and thoughts.

Doesn't matter, not going back til NEXT YEAR woowoo!   So, you were saying?  About man homos?

[Xena_Shepard]

Collider wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Has anybody gotten a really bad feeling that Tali won't be a teammate in ME3 but have a diminished role because of the fact that she could die in ME3...I mean if all of your teammates can die in ME3, BioWare would have a really tough time and a lot of work to somehow meet some pre-set teammate quota if they were gonna bring the ME2 teammates back AND make some new teammates...Y'know for those people that lost a bunch of their team in ME2.

The thought crossed my mind and it got me really worried...'Cause now that I think about it...Tali as a squadmate in ME3 seems kind of unlikely :/

It's more work creating new characters with their own design, models, textures, voice actor, personality, and history - than just using existing characters. Bioware would be smart to have ME3 squadmates be a combination of ME1 and ME2. For those who ****ed up the suicide mission, they should have to deal with the consequences, or replay the game (or reload a save). New players to ME3 can just have a canon backstory where everyone survived.

Yeah but ME3 will also likely be a stand alone game like ME2...So they'd have to keep that in mind when they design the squad.

Though I guess that could be used as an arguement FOR re-using the old squadmembers, if they never played ME2, nobody had the chance to die, if they never played ME1, they wouldn't know who they are.

And I'm sure they base a lot of this kinda stuff on the "canon" shep, and I'm sure "canon" shep survived with all his squadmates.

[GuyWithFace]

Xena_Shepard wrote...


But you gotta think of it from a work point of view, say ME3 comes out in a couple years, say that they have 10 squadmates again, ok if they go the route of "We'll have all the ME2 squadmates as possible squadmates" assuming they even use that kind of system.

I really think they will have all of the ME2 squadmates available to recruit in ME3. Unlike in ME1, where Shepards fate was uncertain at the end of the game, at the end of ME2, we KNOW every can be alive, depending on our ending. That means, between the events of ME2 and ME3, there'll have to be some event that the player doesn't know about that could make them unavailable in 3.

Which would be a bad idea. If they wanted to do that, why let us continue playing after we finished ME2 story arc? Sure, it means they have ptoentially *a lot* of work and VO recording ahead of them, but Bioware has always been dedicated to creating the best gameplay experience possible.

I have - and have always had - faith in them.
 

Modifié par GuyWithFace, 08 février 2010 - 12:23 .

[Sageless Ranger]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Has anybody gotten a really bad feeling that Tali won't be a teammate in ME3 but have a diminished role because of the fact that she could die in ME3...I mean if all of your teammates can die in ME3, BioWare would have a really tough time and a lot of work to someone meet some pre-set teammate quota if they were gonna bring the ME2 teammates back AND make some new teammates...Y'know for those people that lost a bunch of their team in ME2.

The thought crossed my mind and it got me really worried...'Cause now that I think about it...Tali as a squadmate in ME3 seems kind of unlikely :/

I think BioWare will have all their bases covered.  Whoever dies can be replaced, perhaps with members of the original crew?

But you gotta think of it from a work point of view, say ME3 comes out in a couple years, say that they have 10 squadmates again, ok if they go the route of "We'll have all the ME2 squadmates as possible squadmates" assuming they even use that kind of system.

That means they'd have to invent 7 new characters (I say 7 because Wrex, Ashley/Kaidan, and Liara are likely to come back as teammates, though they are also plauged by the whole "they could be dead" issue, which makes it even more confusing.

OK so they have to make 7 new characters, AND record dialogue for TWENTY characters, that's an INSANE amount of VA time and money.

Also considering that EA will likely be pressuring them to get ME3 out in a couple years...I have a baaaaad feeling about it.

Though they could view ME3 as they should, since it's the final, "go big or go home"

Reposting my respones dont think you saw it

Thats the purpose of this thread, to not allow that to happen, but dont see why bioware would invest so much time to make all of the characters unique and interesting just to not put them in third game, plus they would have a multitude of extremely pissed of fans, the fans of all the teamamtes besides Tali would freak out on the forums, while the Tali fans would be raiding there headquarters, and WWIII would ensure. 

[Litos456]

Collider wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Has anybody gotten a really bad feeling that Tali won't be a teammate in ME3 but have a diminished role because of the fact that she could die in ME3...I mean if all of your teammates can die in ME3, BioWare would have a really tough time and a lot of work to somehow meet some pre-set teammate quota if they were gonna bring the ME2 teammates back AND make some new teammates...Y'know for those people that lost a bunch of their team in ME2.

The thought crossed my mind and it got me really worried...'Cause now that I think about it...Tali as a squadmate in ME3 seems kind of unlikely :/

It's more work creating new characters with their own design, models, textures, voice actor, personality, and history - than just using existing characters. Bioware would be smart to have ME3 squadmates be a combination of ME1 and ME2. For those who ****ed up the suicide mission, they should have to deal with the consequences, or replay the game (or reload a save). New players to ME3 can just have a canon backstory where everyone survived.

Don't you realize? It's all set up and clear for us. Those who are dead are dead. Those who are not will remain with you. It's not even as hard to do. They'll record as much data as they would normally, but for some players it simply will never show up because some characters died. Besides, most of the players will likely make at least one playthrough will all or most characters surviving. Like me, I have a playthrough, which is my main, where only Jack died. Then I had a playthrough where only 3 people survived. Now I'm on my way to finishing one where hopefully everyone will survive.
So yeah. It makes sense. Besides, we all know Bioware's got a plan. And also, if you start ME3 without importing, they'll probably have all characters survive.

[The_KFD_Case]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Has anybody gotten a really bad feeling that Tali won't be a teammate in ME3 but have a diminished role because of the fact that she could die in ME3...I mean if all of your teammates can die in ME3, BioWare would have a really tough time and a lot of work to somehow meet some pre-set teammate quota if they were gonna bring the ME2 teammates back AND make some new teammates...Y'know for those people that lost a bunch of their team in ME2.

The thought crossed my mind and it got me really worried...'Cause now that I think about it...Tali as a squadmate in ME3 seems kind of unlikely :/

I wouldn't worry too much. All the characters that show up in ME3 are likely going to be kill-able. If you kept Tali alive in ME2 she should show up in ME3. The reason why the love interests from ME1 weren't playable in ME2 was so that BioWare could guarantee they would be present in ME3, which will be the final act where everything comes together and will be resolved. That will most likely also mean that every possible romance option will be available since they can't know for sure in advance which players did what with whom during ME1 and ME2, and thus have to account for all the possible combinations.

[mothbanquet]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

But you gotta think of it from a work point of view, say ME3 comes out in a couple years, say that they have 10 squadmates again, ok if they go the route of "We'll have all the ME2 squadmates as possible squadmates" assuming they even use that kind of system.

That means they'd have to invent 7 new characters (I say 7 because Wrex, Ashley/Kaidan, and Liara are likely to come back as teammates, though they are also plauged by the whole "they could be dead" issue, which makes it even more confusing.

OK so they have to make 7 new characters, AND record dialogue for TWENTY characters, that's an INSANE amount of VA time and money.

Also considering that EA will likely be pressuring them to get ME3 out in a couple years...I have a baaaaad feeling about it.

Though they could view ME3 as they should, since it's the final, "go big or go home"

I know it's a long shot but they could have got a lot of the work done already, a lot of the main plot stuff that would be the same whatever characters survived.  In the end, as long as you can see the friend/relationship with Tali through to a reasonable end I'll be happy.

[The_KFD_Case]

Admiral-165 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Admiral-165 wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...
I'm just saying it's not a crime to love Tali's hot body, as long as that's not ALL you love.

agreed, which is why Mirand isn't really a good choise for romance since she doesn't really have a personality...

I'm going to disagree on the charge that Miranda doesn't have a personality. She clearly has very deep, caring and protective instincts for her sister. She's also constantly battling an identity crisis with herself thanks to being raised as the DNA wonder child of her father, leaving her in doubt as to whether she herself as a person has any real worth and ability. That said, I don't think she is anywhere near as charming as Tali.

When it comes to the love scene its bland they just love and that's it. Whereas with Tali its an evolution for her character...

Agreed.

[nitefyre410]

Just watched the launch trailer of ME 2 again and it still gives me goose bumps









enjoy

[Xena_Shepard]

Sageless Ranger wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Has anybody gotten a really bad feeling that Tali won't be a teammate in ME3 but have a diminished role because of the fact that she could die in ME3...I mean if all of your teammates can die in ME3, BioWare would have a really tough time and a lot of work to someone meet some pre-set teammate quota if they were gonna bring the ME2 teammates back AND make some new teammates...Y'know for those people that lost a bunch of their team in ME2.

The thought crossed my mind and it got me really worried...'Cause now that I think about it...Tali as a squadmate in ME3 seems kind of unlikely :/

I think BioWare will have all their bases covered.  Whoever dies can be replaced, perhaps with members of the original crew?

But you gotta think of it from a work point of view, say ME3 comes out in a couple years, say that they have 10 squadmates again, ok if they go the route of "We'll have all the ME2 squadmates as possible squadmates" assuming they even use that kind of system.

That means they'd have to invent 7 new characters (I say 7 because Wrex, Ashley/Kaidan, and Liara are likely to come back as teammates, though they are also plauged by the whole "they could be dead" issue, which makes it even more confusing.

OK so they have to make 7 new characters, AND record dialogue for TWENTY characters, that's an INSANE amount of VA time and money.

Also considering that EA will likely be pressuring them to get ME3 out in a couple years...I have a baaaaad feeling about it.

Though they could view ME3 as they should, since it's the final, "go big or go home"

Reposting my respones dont think you saw it

Thats the purpose of this thread, to not allow that to happen, but dont see why bioware would invest so much time to make all of the characters unique and interesting just to not put them in third game, plus they would have a multitude of extremely pissed of fans, the fans of all the teamamtes besides Tali would freak out on the forums, while the Tali fans would be raiding there headquarters, and WWIII would ensure. 

I know but still, even if BioWare would be dedicated and willing to slave away for 10 years to bring us the most epic ME3 possible, EA will put the screws on them to get it out in 2-4 years at the most.

I guess we can just hope, that's what makes this wait torture, the uncertainty.

I mean I bet people who liked Liara/Ashley/Kaiden/Wrex were saying the same things as we were when they were waiting for ME2.

[Alex_The_Bloody]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Has anybody gotten a really bad feeling that Tali won't be a teammate in ME3 but have a diminished role because of the fact that she could die in ME3...I mean if all of your teammates can die in ME3, BioWare would have a really tough time and a lot of work to somehow meet some pre-set teammate quota if they were gonna bring the ME2 teammates back AND make some new teammates...Y'know for those people that lost a bunch of their team in ME2.

The thought crossed my mind and it got me really worried...'Cause now that I think about it...Tali as a squadmate in ME3 seems kind of unlikely :/

Thats what i was saying Bioware would have to in essence develope more than one main story for all the choices made by players to really matter, in the same way that Wrex, Ashley and Kaiden barley appear at all it would be hard for Tali to play a big role plot wise in ME 3 as to some people she'd be dead. They'd need to have some pretty major branching story paths for it to work. Having Talis sister suddenly appear wouldnt work and they already did that for people who killed wrex anyways. On the other hand i doubt bioware would make an ending with so many possible endings without at least a pretty good idea of how there gonna handle it in ME3 . However the fact that ive never seen Garrus die without shep also biting the dust leads me to believe hell be a main character for sure but im sure most of your squad in this even if all survive will play a relativley minor role in the next. Keep in mind they also need the game to work for people who didnt play ME 1 or 2 so like this one did theyll have to have some sort of cannon story ie like how in this default shep let the alliance die, killed wrex and sacrificed Kaiden romanced Ash, killed rachni queen etc

[Himmelstor]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Indeed.  What the f**k were we talking about?

Being a bit rough with Tali in bed and her not being a "rice krispie" apparently.

I like cereal.  Could do with some Tali on toast right about now!!

Hell, Tali can wake me up any morning...In fact, any night as well.

Concur.

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