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[Irensesvox]

We must reach 1000 pages. Or at least 900. Glitches be damned!

[Saberwolf116]

...So is it safe to say we've got Tali in ME3...?

Modifié par Saberwolf116, 15 février 2010 - 11:25 .

[Hader102]

If Bioware went and made a Tali-centric game of any sort, I don't think there is any way they could make a story out of it that would satiate all the Tali fans really. So many of us may love Tali, and likely for many of the same reasons, but if the plethora of blogs and fanart of Tali isn't evidence enough of everyone's individual views, preconceptions, and hopes for Tali, than I don't know what is.

I'm sure we all like the idea of something more on Tali, but I think it's best to just stick with Shepard and ME3 and leave it at that (for the most part). It probably suits us Tali fans better when we have the room to explore the possibilities of Tali, her life, etc., instead of relying totally on Bioware to write every bit of her story for us. Hell if I was a bioware writer for ME, I'd purposely leave such gaps just for that: the imagination of the fan.The whole concept of this series is behind YOUR Shepard. So, in that light, it is YOUR story to write, directly and indirectly.

Modifié par Hader102, 15 février 2010 - 11:26 .

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

Saberwolf116 wrote...

...So is it safe to say we've got Tali in ME3...?

It's likely, but not safe enough for my taste.

Until we get a 100% confirmation, I won't stop worrying.

[Himmelstor]

Saberwolf116 wrote...

...So is it safe to say we've got Tali in ME3...?

Very likely.

The Doctor is In.
And still working on fanfic part eight.

[Chikin rise]

Just looked at your Galley. Blew me away. Be honest, you're tottaly an Animator in Real Life, right? Where do you work? Nick? Cartoon Network? Come on, be frank. All that aside though, there is some really outstanding stuff at your page. Your Dragon-Age work was pretty sweet as well. Oh, and you have to show your Larger ME2 piece here. It is now my Wallpaper. Hope that's not creepy...or illegal. Awesome work.

Thanks for visiting my deviant art!  I did work in an animation studio before but not among those big names you have mentioned above ( although I wish i can work in Nick and Cartoon network one day).
No no. its not creepy or illegal at all. In fact I am v proud that you did.

Modifié par Chikin rise, 15 février 2010 - 11:31 .

[Saberwolf116]

Himmelstor wrote...

Saberwolf116 wrote...

...So is it safe to say we've got Tali in ME3...?

Very likely.

The Doctor is In.
And still working on fanfic part eight.

You're gonna make Mr. Badass go all paragon on us, aren't you?

[RaoulG4668]

Saberwolf116 wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Saberwolf116 wrote...

...So is it safe to say we've got Tali in ME3...?

Very likely.

The Doctor is In.
And still working on fanfic part eight.

You're gonna make Mr. Badass go all paragon on us, aren't you?

Thats what I was thinking 

[Himmelstor]

Saberwolf116 wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Saberwolf116 wrote...

...So is it safe to say we've got Tali in ME3...?

Very likely.

The Doctor is In.
And still working on fanfic part eight.

You're gonna make Mr. Badass go all paragon on us, aren't you?

All? Impossible. Can't suddenly change 180 degrees.

[Ungtar]

Hader102 wrote...

If Bioware went and made a Tali-centric game of any sort, I don't think there is any way they could make a story out of it that would satiate all the Tali fans really. So many of us may love Tali, and likely for many of the same reasons, but if the plethora of blogs and fanart of Tali isn't evidence enough of everyone's individual views, preconceptions, and hopes for Tali, than I don't know what is.

I'm sure we all like the idea of something more on Tali, but I think it's best to just stick with Shepard and ME3 and leave it at that (for the most part). It probably suits us Tali fans better when we have the room to explore the possibilities of Tali, her life, etc., instead of relying totally on Bioware to write every bit of her story for us. Hell if I was a bioware writer for ME, I'd purposely leave such gaps just for that: the imagination of the fan.The whole concept of this series is behind YOUR Shepard. So, in that light, it is YOUR story to write, directly and indirectly.

I like your thinking here Hader.  Bioware is so skillfully letting each of us write our own Shepherd story.  If we choose to write Tali into ours - (hurray) so be it.  They create the sandbox, we build the castles. 

As well. . too much Tali-mongering would fall suspect to the Bubba-fett problem.  Did we really need to know all we now know about him?  Think of Shepherd Book on Serenity/Firefly. . . so cool because we don't know EVERYTHING there is to know about him.  . . .just a few thoughts.

[Roninraver]

Hader102 wrote...

glenboy24 wrote...



Hey Hader, just wanted to say thanks for going out of your way to post more info about this Topic. It's always something that facinated me, though I have no strong suit for Science. I always pay attention to the posts that go in depth on the subject of the differences in Amino Acids, DNA chains, so on and so forth. I enjoy it because it really helps me better understand just how much Trust and Effort Tali is putting into being with Shepard, and how much love, patience, and understanding Shepard must have to be able to wait and not feel frustrated at the long periods of time both he and Tali would have to wait before they could be intimate again. Judging from the Easter Egg conversation in the New Game+ it seems Tali only comes down with a touch of the Flu from making Love to Shepard, so no worries that it was fatal or anything of the sort. That does bring me to a question though. Tali mentions, during her initial Romantic Conversation with Shepard, that the Act of linking one's Suit to another entails trust, because the Quarian in question is risking either a mild sickness or worse to be closer to said person; however, after a time, the Quarian would build up a resistance to the other Quarian's native bactieria and it would not be a hazard for them to be together in the same clean room suit-less. My question then is this: If Tali and Shepard continue to be together sexualy, would Tali eventually become resistant to Shepard's Bacteria, there by allowing them to be together more often without her coming down with any kind of Illness? Thanks in advance if you look this up.

I'm not completely sure on that one. Conceptually, it seems quite plausible that her immune system would eventually become more and more used to Shepard in that way. However, Shepard is still human, there may or may not be some hurdles that can't really be overcome by her immune system. I'm not really sure, as the only real knowledge I have of the Quarian immune system and all is from what I have heard Tali say ingame, and I don't have that all memorized. The best I can say now is that what you think is a likely outcome, but not 100% certain in either drection. I'd have to look into it some more. I'm still delving into a lot of this myself, in between playing ME2 and other work I have.

Well yes, and no.  I would think that if "Shepard's bacteria" were some static, unchanging quantity then theoretically yes, eventually her immune system would adapt to the ever-present biologic matter.  This of course provided something silly didn't happen, like some random Quarian sneezing on Shepard's sleeve and making him an unknowing carrier of Quarian ebola or something, that would then infect Tali in a real sense, rather than an immuno reaction to foreign biologic matter.  Would make her SICK sick, not just symptoms of an immuno response sick.

Therein lies the problem though.  With Quarians and their suit linkage, the things each Quarian is being exposed to remains contant.  There isn't some new and exciting bacterium sneaking it's way in passed the seals of one suit and taxing their immune systems further.  It's presumably a steady, slow adaptation to biologic matter that is ever-present and unchanging within those self contained environments, until eventually they each are well enough adapted to the other that they may be suitless in the same scrubbed environment, such as in birthings.

Shepard's issue is that he is by default, suitless.  The biologic matter he carries is not a constant.  He could shake someone's hand one day, pick up some new and exciting germs.  Lean against a bulkhead the next thinking over a report he's read, more new and exciting germs.  And each time Tali and Shepard share a moment, her immune system will be taxed with the job of isolating and adapting to/destroying the new and exciting germs. 

So while Tali may eventually be able to adapt to Shepard's normal compliment of tiny and nasties, her immune system will be continually bombarded by the biologic matter that he is unwittingly exposed to every day.  Her immune system will never be able to adapt fully, as it would not know what would be getting thrown at it the next day.

Unless of course your Shepard, like mine, is 100% willing to sport a ziplock-suit for the rest of his days for his Tali

[turelhimvampire]

Himmelstor wrote...

All? Impossible. Can't suddenly change 180 degrees.

Depends on velocity, trajectory, wrecklessness of pilot... oh, you meant something else?

[Litos456]

Hey guys, I'm back. How's it going everyone? Lol this thread is enormous.

[x75flames]

Tali: Uhhhh, Sheaperd, are you sure about this

Sheaperd: Ofcorse! This medicen is sure to help!

Tali: If you say so. But dont you think I'm taking a bit to much?

Sheaperd: No come on Tali, trust me!

Tali: Fine, ok sorry I asked, well see you latter.

Sheaperd: See you in 48 hours!

Sheaperd looks down at the medicen bottle.

WARGINING! If taken in excess side effects can apper in 48 hours, if you get any of these see a docter: Naussea, Diarea, Running Nose, Upset stomach, and SWELLING OR TENERNESS O THE BREAST MY OCCUR!


Sheaperd:

[cdsmith0]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Saberwolf116 wrote...

...So is it safe to say we've got Tali in ME3...?

It's likely, but not safe enough for my taste.

Until we get a 100% confirmation, I won't stop worrying.

i agree that we got her in as an important character...but we still need to keep working if we want her to be an important LI and to get a GOOD AND HAPPY romantic ending for them

[racer06]

I know I am replying to something a few pages back but for those who are complaining Shep and Tali jumping to sex to fast, and lol without going on a date? I mean come on, what they have been through is going to bring two people who care about each other A LOT closer than a few dates. And also, I don't think its small talk to sex, I think its very obvious through their conversations how much they care about each other.

[Himmelstor]

Roninraver wrote...

Well yes, and no.  I would think that if "Shepard's bacteria" were some static, unchanging quantity then theoretically yes, eventually her immune system would adapt to the ever-present biologic matter.  This of course provided something silly didn't happen, like some random Quarian sneezing on Shepard's sleeve and making him an unknowing carrier of Quarian ebola or something, that would then infect Tali in a real sense, rather than an immuno reaction to foreign biologic matter.  Would make her SICK sick, not just symptoms of an immuno response sick.

Therein lies the problem though.  With Quarians and their suit linkage, the things each Quarian is being exposed to remains contant.  There isn't some new and exciting bacterium sneaking it's way in passed the seals of one suit and taxing their immune systems further.  It's presumably a steady, slow adaptation to biologic matter that is ever-present and unchanging within those self contained environments, until eventually they each are well enough adapted to the other that they may be suitless in the same scrubbed environment, such as in birthings.

Shepard's issue is that he is by default, suitless.  The biologic matter he carries is not a constant.  He could shake someone's hand one day, pick up some new and exciting germs.  Lean against a bulkhead the next thinking over a report he's read, more new and exciting germs.  And each time Tali and Shepard share a moment, her immune system will be taxed with the job of isolating and adapting to/destroying the new and exciting germs. 

So while Tali may eventually be able to adapt to Shepard's normal compliment of tiny and nasties, her immune system will be continually bombarded by the biologic matter that he is unwittingly exposed to every day.  Her immune system will never be able to adapt fully, as it would not know what would be getting thrown at it the next day.

Unless of course your Shepard, like mine, is 100% willing to sport a ziplock-suit for the rest of his days for his Tali

Would still make easier on immune system each time. Reduce number of bacteria to have reaction to. Would never be fully immune due to random bacteria, but overall chances should reduce.

[cdsmith0]

Ungtar wrote...

Hader102 wrote...

If Bioware went and made a Tali-centric game of any sort, I don't think there is any way they could make a story out of it that would satiate all the Tali fans really. So many of us may love Tali, and likely for many of the same reasons, but if the plethora of blogs and fanart of Tali isn't evidence enough of everyone's individual views, preconceptions, and hopes for Tali, than I don't know what is.

I'm sure we all like the idea of something more on Tali, but I think it's best to just stick with Shepard and ME3 and leave it at that (for the most part). It probably suits us Tali fans better when we have the room to explore the possibilities of Tali, her life, etc., instead of relying totally on Bioware to write every bit of her story for us. Hell if I was a bioware writer for ME, I'd purposely leave such gaps just for that: the imagination of the fan.The whole concept of this series is behind YOUR Shepard. So, in that light, it is YOUR story to write, directly and indirectly.

I like your thinking here Hader.  Bioware is so skillfully letting each of us write our own Shepherd story.  If we choose to write Tali into ours - (hurray) so be it.  They create the sandbox, we build the castles. 

As well. . too much Tali-mongering would fall suspect to the Bubba-fett problem.  Did we really need to know all we now know about him?  Think of Shepherd Book on Serenity/Firefly. . . so cool because we don't know EVERYTHING there is to know about him.  . . .just a few thoughts.

I disagree...we need to know more since ME 3 will wrap all the characters.

[Lord_Moose]

Guh.

I wonder if curing the scars has an effect on your Reneade score...

Really shouldve chopped his balls off for that info T.T

>>

[Himmelstor]

Lord_Moose wrote...

Guh.
I wonder if curing the scars has an effect on your Reneade score...
Really shouldve chopped his balls off for that info T.T
>>

No. Just makes less obvious.

[Hader102]

Ungtar wrote...



I like your thinking here Hader.  Bioware is so skillfully letting each of us write our own Shepherd story.  If we choose to write Tali into ours - (hurray) so be it.  They create the sandbox, we build the castles. 

Fairly true. I mean, as much as I love Tali, I think the best course of action to take with her story (and her story with Shepard if chosen as a LI) should be one that doesn't go extrememly in depth or anything. If that happens, well it might just destroy the hopes and dreams of many wouldn't it? 

I think what draws a lot of people to Tali no, in the way they show it especially, is that room for exploration that only each individual can take. Like I said, this is your Shepard's story, so as long as Bioware lets the same level of....leniancy, if you will...then that is the best way they can really satisfy all the fans. Can't leave it untouched, can't delve into it too deeply. It's a fine balance, and one they have kept well up to now. Hopefully ME3 will keep it the same.

Modifié par Hader102, 15 février 2010 - 11:42 .

[Joekababazae]

cdsmith0 wrote...

Ungtar wrote...

Hader102 wrote...

If Bioware went and made a Tali-centric game of any sort, I don't think there is any way they could make a story out of it that would satiate all the Tali fans really. So many of us may love Tali, and likely for many of the same reasons, but if the plethora of blogs and fanart of Tali isn't evidence enough of everyone's individual views, preconceptions, and hopes for Tali, than I don't know what is.

I'm sure we all like the idea of something more on Tali, but I think it's best to just stick with Shepard and ME3 and leave it at that (for the most part). It probably suits us Tali fans better when we have the room to explore the possibilities of Tali, her life, etc., instead of relying totally on Bioware to write every bit of her story for us. Hell if I was a bioware writer for ME, I'd purposely leave such gaps just for that: the imagination of the fan.The whole concept of this series is behind YOUR Shepard. So, in that light, it is YOUR story to write, directly and indirectly.

I like your thinking here Hader.  Bioware is so skillfully letting each of us write our own Shepherd story.  If we choose to write Tali into ours - (hurray) so be it.  They create the sandbox, we build the castles. 

As well. . too much Tali-mongering would fall suspect to the Bubba-fett problem.  Did we really need to know all we now know about him?  Think of Shepherd Book on Serenity/Firefly. . . so cool because we don't know EVERYTHING there is to know about him.  . . .just a few thoughts.

I disagree...we need to know more since ME 3 will wrap all the characters.

agreed

[Joekababazae]

i dont know. i would like to see the relationship between Tali and Shepard explored more.

[cdsmith0]

Hader102 wrote...

Ungtar wrote...



I like your thinking here Hader.  Bioware is so skillfully letting each of us write our own Shepherd story.  If we choose to write Tali into ours - (hurray) so be it.  They create the sandbox, we build the castles. 

Fairly true. I mean, as much as I love Tali, I think the best course of action to take with her story (and her story with Shepard if chosen as a LI) should be one that doesn't go extrememly in depth or anything. If that happens, well it might just destroy the hopes and dreams of many wouldn't it? 

I think what draws a lot of people to Tali no, in the way they show it especially, is that room for exploration that only each individual can take. Like I said, this is your Shepard's story, so as long as Bioware lets the same level of....leniancy, if you will...then that is the best way they can really satisfy all the fans. Can't leave it untouched, can't delve into it too deeply. It's a fine balance, and one they have kept well up to now. Hopefully ME3 will keep it the same.

But leaving to much open would make alot of people made who just want to know what would happen... You can have a special ending for each love interest