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[Scy Lancer]

Himmelstor wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

Aphillio wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

Aphillio wrote...

But why would anyone betray Shep when the Galaxy hangs in the balance? Last time I checked people like being alive.

They might get indoctrinated by another
Reaper?

The only one who seems to be in the position to be indoctrinated seems to be Liara. Getting far too close to the Shadow Broker <_<. As long as they don't indoctrinate Tali or Mordin..

Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if
Liara or Ash betrayed Shepard. I mean Ash was one of the only
survivors during the Collector attack.

Tali would fry the
Reaper and Mordin would talk so much that the reaper would kill it
self.
Always get job done with limited resources.

Cmon
It was funny.

[FsDxRAGE]

New chapter is up in my blog, been getting good comments so far on all chapters, Lots of Tali, thanks for the support!

http://social.biowar...8913/blog/2478/

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

Scy Lancer wrote...
I mean Ash was one of the only
survivors during the Collector attack.

I wondered about that. We even see her getting paralyzed by those insect things, but then she just walks up to you as if nothing happened. I guess the paralyzation ended when the Collector ship went out of range and they just didn't show the other colonists, but it still seemed fishy.

[XX55XX]

GuyWithFace wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

Because, if used correctly (betrayals to tend to be clinche in and of themselves), it can be a cool plot device.

It certainly is cliche, but it can also be a good driving point for the story, giving the protagonist an unexpected obstacle to overcome.

And I can relate to you wanting the trilogy to end with the 'bad guys' winning, but sadly, that's a terrible idea economically. The audience wants to be the victor: Especially when we're the ones in control. Imagine it like this: You've played all three games, doing one impossible thing after the next as Commander Shepard... only to be blindsided at the very end, with no way to counter it. So, in essence, your entire story was moot. You saved the galaxy *two* times, only to have it destroyed in the end. And there was nothing you could do about it.

Doesn't sound like a game a lot of people would want to play.


Closing thought: I wouldn't put it past Bioware to have a negative ending in ME3. There's  negative ending in ME2. If you play well enough in ME3, you emerge victorious. Play poorly, making bad decisions, and it costs you. That way, at least the player feels responsible, rather than having their demise thrown upon them.

Well they could have two endings then:

1. Shepard wins, but most of the galaxy is anihilated. Rebuilding the galaxy into what it once was would be impossible within even an Asari lifetime.

2. Shepard loses, gets turned into a Reaper, and takes part in the next cycle of extinction.

Modifié par XX55XX, 16 février 2010 - 02:25 .

[FenixPendragon]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

What's wrong with Kaidan?

He whines too much...never used him in ME1 useless.

[Himmelstor]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

What's wrong with Kaidan?

Unknown. Have no issue with any character.
Prefer to keep thread friendly. About Tali.

[cypherx82]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

New chapter is up in my blog, been getting good comments so far on all chapters, Lots of Tali, thanks for the support!
http://social.biowar...8913/blog/2478/

*Gasp* 

How did I miss this? Must catch up...

[GuyWithFace]

XX55XX wrote...
Well they could have two endings then:

1. Shepard wins, but most of the galaxy is anihilated. Rebuilding the galaxy into what it once was would be impossible within even an Asari lifetime.

2. Shepard loses, gets turned into a Reaper, and takes part in the next cycle of extinction.

Another thing, though. I'm assuming you mean Shepards body because one in the millions required to create a new Reaper, or he becomes indoctrinated and has his mind transferred into a Human Reaper?

[Brahlis]

This thread ... is so epic ...

[SirEmilCrane]

FenixPendragon wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

What's wrong with Kaidan?

He whines too much...never used him in ME1 useless.

fair enough, I didn't mind him that much

anyway, gonna re-ask my question

Is there any way to get two Li's to fight over Shepard like in ME1?

[Yionel]

FenixPendragon wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

What's wrong with Kaidan?

He whines too much...never used him in ME1 useless.

I wanted to kick both Kaidan and Ashley in the head on horizon pig headed idiots

[Mr Chief]

If I had a penny for every post in this thread, I would melt them down into a massive statue of Tali which I would display in my front yard.

[XX55XX]

GuyWithFace wrote...

XX55XX wrote...
Well they could have two endings then:

1. Shepard wins, but most of the galaxy is anihilated. Rebuilding the galaxy into what it once was would be impossible within even an Asari lifetime.

2. Shepard loses, gets turned into a Reaper, and takes part in the next cycle of extinction.

Another thing, though. I'm assuming you mean Shepards body because one in the millions required to create a new Reaper, or he becomes indoctrinated and has his mind transferred into a Human Reaper?

I prefer the latter, actually. He retains a part of his conscious, and of course, we can toss a bone to those Tali fans out there and say that she gets turned into a Reaper herself. They spend the rest of eternity destroying one galatic civilization after the other.

[Aphillio]

Mr Chief wrote...

If I had a penny for every post in this thread, I would melt them down into a massive statue of Tali which I would display in my front yard.

Way ahead of you.

[Scy Lancer]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...
I mean Ash was one of the only
survivors during the Collector attack.

I wondered about that. We even see her getting paralyzed by those insect things, but then she just walks up to you as if nothing happened. I guess the paralyzation ended when the Collector ship went out of range and they just didn't show the other colonists, but it still seemed fishy.

Exactly! Ash and Liara just seem to be so much colder to Shepard in the second one.

[Goat_Shepard]

FenixPendragon wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

What's wrong with Kaidan?

He whines too much...never used him in ME1 useless.

If you're comparing Kaiden to Ashley, "whines too much" isn't  good argument for Ashley. That's why I killed her. Kaiden didn't give me all that baggage that Ashley had, it was a distraction.
Ashley also said "What do we do with her, the Quarian?" causing Tali to say "My name is Tali". I know Kaiden will also say this if he's in your squad, but it fits Ashley's xenophobic ways "same with "let's not get in the middle of it" concerning Wrex.

[FenixPendragon]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

FenixPendragon wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

What's wrong with Kaidan?

He whines too much...never used him in ME1 useless.

fair enough, I didn't mind him that much

anyway, gonna re-ask my question

Is there any way to get two Li's to fight over Shepard like in ME1?

Hummm Jack and Mairand do have a little tiff that forces you to choose and no matter how high my paragon went I could not bring Miranda back. But I still had sweet Tali.

[Hader102]

SirEmilCrane wrote...


fair enough, I didn't mind him that much

anyway, gonna re-ask my question

Is there any way to get two Li's to fight over Shepard like in ME1?

I don't know for sure, though one of my characters is testing that and will find out soon...

And a note on that, it is with Miranda and Jack this character is testing it with. I would never put Tali through something like that in a serious playthrough!

[RossdudeTali]

Tali is the perfect woman. I was playing ME2 the other day (wrapping the game up) and my brother said, "You've been playing this game all weekend! You have a thing for alien women or something?" I responded, "Brother, this is how life should be! This is how women should be!" I love everything about Tali, how she plays with her hands, her geeky, excited speech. Her awesome hacking skills. Oh and the fact that she carries around a shotgun. Tali's had my back since the first ME1 and I'll be damned if I don't have her back for ME3. Don't let the game slip by her!

P.S. 
Liara went freakin' nuts. She sounded just like her mother, which was a nice touch though. When i heard her talking about the Asari Commando squad it sent a chill down my spine as I recalled the bitter battle with Benenzia (sp?). Tali though will always be my number one! She was in my party all the time in ME1. Her and Wrex. Then they killed my Krogan. Those bastards!

[SirEmilCrane]

FenixPendragon wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

FenixPendragon wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

What's wrong with Kaidan?

He whines too much...never used him in ME1 useless.

fair enough, I didn't mind him that much

anyway, gonna re-ask my question

Is there any way to get two Li's to fight over Shepard like in ME1?

Hummm Jack and Mairand do have a little tiff that forces you to choose and no matter how high my paragon went I could not bring Miranda back. But I still had sweet Tali.

Good choice, I just want to see Miranda and Tali fighiting over me, and see the look on Miranda's face when I reject her.

[Yionel]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

FenixPendragon wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

What's wrong with Kaidan?

He whines too much...never used him in ME1 useless.

If you're comparing Kaiden to Ashley, "whines too much" isn't  good argument for Ashley. That's why I killed her. Kaiden didn't give me all that baggage that Ashley had, it was a distraction.
Ashley also said "What do we do with her, the Quarian?" causing Tali to say "My name is Tali". I know Kaiden will also say this if he's in your squad, but it fits Ashley's xenophobic ways "same with "let's not get in the middle of it" concerning Wrex.

If you do Noveria before getting Liara Ashley flames at Tali for giving her opinion (man i hate that "beep")

[Aphillio]

If we're forced to confront our ME1 LIs about Tali in ME3, how will you react? I'm gonna let Liara down in the most Renegade way possible, she deserves it

[Himmelstor]

Yionel wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

FenixPendragon wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

What's wrong with Kaidan?

He whines too much...never used him in ME1 useless.

If you're comparing Kaiden to Ashley, "whines too much" isn't  good argument for Ashley. That's why I killed her. Kaiden didn't give me all that baggage that Ashley had, it was a distraction.
Ashley also said "What do we do with her, the Quarian?" causing Tali to say "My name is Tali". I know Kaiden will also say this if he's in your squad, but it fits Ashley's xenophobic ways "same with "let's not get in the middle of it" concerning Wrex.

If you do Noveria before getting Liara Ashley flames at Tali for giving her opinion (man i hate that "beep")

Have seen. Was angry. Ashley lacks manners. Semi-xenophobic.

[SirEmilCrane]

Yionel wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

FenixPendragon wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

What's wrong with Kaidan?

He whines too much...never used him in ME1 useless.

If you're comparing Kaiden to Ashley, "whines too much" isn't  good argument for Ashley. That's why I killed her. Kaiden didn't give me all that baggage that Ashley had, it was a distraction.
Ashley also said "What do we do with her, the Quarian?" causing Tali to say "My name is Tali". I know Kaiden will also say this if he's in your squad, but it fits Ashley's xenophobic ways "same with "let's not get in the middle of it" concerning Wrex.

If you do Noveria before getting Liara Ashley flames at Tali for giving her opinion (man i hate that "beep")

Wait, what? How dare she speak a word against Tali?

What exactly do Tali and Ash say?

[Himmelstor]

Aphillio wrote...

If we're forced to confront our ME1 LIs about Tali in ME3, how will you react? I'm gonna let Liara down in the most Renegade way possible, she deserves it

Would shoot Ashley, if necessary.
If Liara, would be more gentle. Did save life.
But Tali paramount over both.