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[mothbanquet]

Here's a good Tali question. Last night a couple of fine folks her alluded me to the existence of the cuddle scenes. Needless to say I posted for about an hour or so with the two lovers embracing on my TV in the background. Then my iPod began to kick out Metallica's Nothing Else Matters.

My question: What would be your ideal background music for a Tali cuddle?

Modifié par mothbanquet, 07 février 2010 - 10:28 .

[MarauderW]

mothbanquet wrote...

Here's a good Tali question. Last night a couple of fine folks her alluded me to the existence of the cuddle scenes. Needless to say I posted for about an hour or so with the two lovers embracing on my TV in the background. Then my iPod began to kick out Metallica's Nothing Else Matters.

My question: What would be your ideal background music for a Tali cuddle?

Complete silence so I can enjoy the view...and moment.

[Yazman]

Neroteyen wrote...

No way I could turn her down. She's putting her life on the line to be with you. Besides just listen to her when you talk in engineering, the emotion in her voice is amazing. The love must continue in ME3!

Yeah I love that last bit down in engineering. How close she comes to you and whispers in your ear, holds you tight and says "I'll find a way.." 

I love it.

[Cajeb]

I just wanna profess my love for Tali! I used to love her for DEM HIPZ and DAT ASS but now I love her because of DAT PERSONALITY. Such a sweet, strong-willed, yet shy woman.

[Scy Lancer]

From what I know of BioWare games there will be a resolution option.

Either Geth or Quarian will die.

Or They will come together.

It's just a game guys. Don't turn this ugly folks.

[The_KFD_Case]

Rip504 wrote...

You don't seem to understand self-defense and murder are 2 diff things.unecessary force becomes murder,running the quarians from their homeworld imply the war turn in the geth favor.So the Quarians are wrong for starting the war?The Geth are not wrong for never stopping until the Quarians were gone one way or another?At the turning point why didn't the Geth let up and offer peace?Why didn't they send out a "Legion" to speak with the Quarians,but sent one to Shepard who killed off many Geth Heritics?Shepard has shown no love for the Geth,but they chase him down for 2 years to help preserve themselves from the reapers.Never tried to send one to make peace with the Quarians.

Actually it would seem that you don't understand the difference between self-defence and murder. The Quarians tried to shutdown the Geth; the Geth interpreted that as an attack and acted in self-defence. Did they overreact? Who's to say? It happened 327 years in ME's past. The Geth seem to think they may have overreacted, which I take as a positive sign since it would indicate they are not blind to what they did and it may allow for a peaceful solution. The tricky bit for many people seems to be whether they can accept the Geth as intelligent, independent "life" despite being synthetic.

There never was a peace settlement between the Geth and the Quarians thus no way to ease up, and again, it wasn't the Geth that attacked Quarians and other sentient species after the revolt. That would be the Heretics, an offshoot branch of the Geth. Had the Geth sent a Legion to the Quarians what do you think the chances are of it being allowed to come close enough to communicate with them before being blasted to smithereens? And yes, the Geth sent a Legion to contact Shepard precisely because he is fighting the Reapers; as Legion states, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", etc. It becomes mutually beneficial for them to cooperate against a greater threat which is logical. The Geth operate by logic not emotion. Shepard has already proven himself adept at fighting the Reapers; the Quarians have not and are also hostile towards the Geth because of their past.

Seriously, read the damn Codex entries about the Geth and the Quarians. They shed so much light on all of this.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 07 février 2010 - 10:48 .

[Aethelwulf1066]

mothbanquet wrote...

Has anyone here actually done another RI besides Tali yet??

Yeah. Tried Jack's, and was not impressed. Next to Ashley, she's the worst LI in the Mass Effect series (A personal opinion, mind you.). Her teen-angst-hot-topic attitude really killed me.

As for Miranda, I couldn't stand her either. Goose-stepping-**** fanatic-and-equal-parts-cold-businesswoman doesn't do it for me.

Meh. Keep coming back to this late. Damn you Bernard Cornwell, damn you!

[Kami102]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

The way I see it, I'll (IMO) definitely support the quarians in the war against the geth.

Sure it was wrong for the quarians to try to kill them off once they reached a "sapient" state, but there's no excuse in completely knocking off an entire species off their homeworld, forcing them to become scavangers as they search for another world.

And I know its a little selfish, but I'm just saying -- the geth aren't "living". They're machines that can be easily replaced and remade. A living being with a soul carries MUCH more weight than a machine.

I would gladly love to see the Quarians re-take their homeworld in ME3 so that they can return to their lives as it were, peacefully (Obviously they're not gonna make the same mistake again).
They made a mistake, and already paid horribly for it. They deserve a second chance, like any other living being deserves.

That's just my opinion anyway xD

That's fine; it's certainly one way to try and regain the Quarian homeworld though the odds favour the Geth. I'm simply proposing trying the peaceful solution first. If it works then everyone can walk away happy. If it doesn't work then we can dust off the cannons and make war.

NP; It's just that I cannot possibly see diplomatic relations coming out on the Quarian's side.
Knowing the Quarians, many of them will be thirsty for revenge on what the Geth did to them (Including Tali *wink wink*)

If the Quarians stand a chance against the geth, it has to be the whole fleet, sending any less will result in a disaster and not to mention a waste of many lives in an already crippled state that they're [the quarians] are in.

I truely am a quarian sympathizer -- and I know the most noble thing to do is seek diplomatic relations with them.
I personally, just don't trust them. Sure, the geth a split between the true and the heretics, but they are still machines. What's to stop a heretic geth from hacking into the "true" geth, turning them into more heretics, resulting in another war between the quarians?

The Geth are just "there". They really provide no essential task for other species in the universe. You don't see them helping anyone or anything. So there really would be no consequences in wiping out the geth entirely.

Modifié par Kami102, 07 février 2010 - 10:36 .

[mothbanquet]

Aethelwulf1066 wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Has anyone here actually done another RI besides Tali yet??

Yeah. Tried Jack's, and was not impressed. Next to Ashley, she's the worst LI in the Mass Effect series (A personal opinion, mind you.). Her teen-angst-hot-topic attitude really killed me.

As for Miranda, I couldn't stand her either. Goose-stepping-**** fanatic-and-equal-parts-cold-businesswoman doesn't do it for me.

Meh. Keep coming back to this late. Damn you Bernard Cornwell, damn you!

Cornwell rules!

[Rip504]

Your saying the Geth are peaceful.I'm saying they have made NO attempts at peace.Read what I am saying.

[The_KFD_Case]

Sleepicub09 wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

The way I see it, I'll (IMO) definitely support the quarians in the war against the geth.

Sure it was wrong for the quarians to try to kill them off once they reached a "sapient" state, but there's no excuse in completely knocking off an entire species off their homeworld, forcing them to become scavangers as they search for another world.

And I know its a little selfish, but I'm just saying -- the geth aren't "living". They're machines that can be easily replaced and remade. A living being with a soul carries MUCH more weight than a machine.

I would gladly love to see the Quarians re-take their homeworld in ME3 so that they can return to their lives as it were, peacefully (Obviously they're not gonna make the same mistake again).
They made a mistake, and already paid horribly for it. They deserve a second chance, like any other living being deserves.

That's just my opinion anyway xD

I for one rewrote the heretics, Paragoned Tali into not being exiled, and told Tali and Legion to forgive and forget

Same here.

[Scy Lancer]

mothbanquet wrote...

Here's a good Tali question. Last night a couple of fine folks her alluded me to the existence of the cuddle scenes. Needless to say I posted for about an hour or so with the two lovers embracing on my TV in the background. Then my iPod began to kick out Metallica's Nothing Else Matters.

My question: What would be your ideal background music for a Tali cuddle?

I don't think it gets much better then Metallica for that friend.
My friend was playing this Russian mellow rock song in his car a few months ago and I think that would fit in nicely. She sounds Eastern European after all. Cant remember the band or the song though.
I would just stick with Metallica. They have a song for just about everything.

[monika26]

YAY!!! Tali 2.0!!! I can't believe how successful the first the first thread was! Now to make 2.0 just as successful!



Let's build that home for Tali in ME3!

[Kami102]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

The way I see it, I'll (IMO) definitely support the quarians in the war against the geth.

Sure it was wrong for the quarians to try to kill them off once they reached a "sapient" state, but there's no excuse in completely knocking off an entire species off their homeworld, forcing them to become scavangers as they search for another world.

And I know its a little selfish, but I'm just saying -- the geth aren't "living". They're machines that can be easily replaced and remade. A living being with a soul carries MUCH more weight than a machine.

I would gladly love to see the Quarians re-take their homeworld in ME3 so that they can return to their lives as it were, peacefully (Obviously they're not gonna make the same mistake again).
They made a mistake, and already paid horribly for it. They deserve a second chance, like any other living being deserves.

That's just my opinion anyway xD

I for one rewrote the heretics, Paragoned Tali into not being exiled, and told Tali and Legion to forgive and forget

Same here.

xD same

[mothbanquet]

[/quote]

That's fine; it's certainly one way to try and regain the Quarian homeworld though the odds favour the Geth. I'm simply proposing trying the peaceful solution first. If it works then everyone can walk away happy. If it doesn't work then we can dust off the cannons and make war.

[/quote]

NP; It's just that I cannot possibly see diplomatic relations coming out on the Quarian's side.
Knowing the Quarians, many of them will be thirsty for revenge on what the Geth did to them (Including Tali *wink wink*)

If the Quarians stand a chance against the geth, it has to be the whole fleet, sending any less will result in a disaster and not to mention a waste of many lives in an already crippled state that they're [the quarians] are in.

I truely am a quarian sympathizer -- and I know the most noble thing to do is seek diplomatic relations with them.
I personally, just don't trust them. Sure, the geth a split between the true and the heretics, but they are still machines. What's to stop a heretic geth from hacking into the "true" geth, turning them into more heretics, resulting in another war between the quarians?

The Geth are just "there". They really provide no essential task for other species in the universe. You don't see them helping anyone or anything. So there really would be no consequences in wiping out the geth entirely.

[/quote]

I agree with Kami, ME forces you into making the best decisions with lack of hindsight.  I don't condsider the Quarians morally better than the Geth, for from it.  However, they are allies and after fighting them for so long during ME1 I just couldn't trust them so easily.

[mothbanquet]

Scy Lancer wrote...

mothbanquet wrote...

Here's a good Tali question. Last night a couple of fine folks her alluded me to the existence of the cuddle scenes. Needless to say I posted for about an hour or so with the two lovers embracing on my TV in the background. Then my iPod began to kick out Metallica's Nothing Else Matters.

My question: What would be your ideal background music for a Tali cuddle?

I don't think it gets much better then Metallica for that friend.
My friend was playing this Russian mellow rock song in his car a few months ago and I think that would fit in nicely. She sounds Eastern European after all. Cant remember the band or the song though.
I would just stick with Metallica. They have a song for just about everything.

I went to Rammstein in birmingham this week past. That conjured up some powerful imagery...

[The_KFD_Case]

mothbanquet wrote...

Here's a good Tali question. Last night a couple of fine folks her alluded me to the existence of the cuddle scenes. Needless to say I posted for about an hour or so with the two lovers embracing on my TV in the background. Then my iPod began to kick out Metallica's Nothing Else Matters.

My question: What would be your ideal background music for a Tali cuddle?

Ouh, nice question! Hm. For me, something melodic and harmonious. Preferably sweet and soft sounding though not necessarily slow. Meditative/contemplative music perhaps? Not sure which particular piece to pick.

[Yazman]

Kami102 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

The way I see it, I'll (IMO) definitely support the quarians in the war against the geth.

Sure it was wrong for the quarians to try to kill them off once they reached a "sapient" state, but there's no excuse in completely knocking off an entire species off their homeworld, forcing them to become scavangers as they search for another world.

And I know its a little selfish, but I'm just saying -- the geth aren't "living". They're machines that can be easily replaced and remade. A living being with a soul carries MUCH more weight than a machine.

I would gladly love to see the Quarians re-take their homeworld in ME3 so that they can return to their lives as it were, peacefully (Obviously they're not gonna make the same mistake again).
They made a mistake, and already paid horribly for it. They deserve a second chance, like any other living being deserves.

That's just my opinion anyway xD

I for one rewrote the heretics, Paragoned Tali into not being exiled, and told Tali and Legion to forgive and forget

Same here.

xD same

Yeah same here

[The_KFD_Case]

Rip504 wrote...

Your saying the Geth are peaceful.I'm saying they have made NO attempts at peace.Read what I am saying.

Read what I'm typing: The Geth favour peace according to Legion. That is not to say that the Geth are not capable of violence if provoked (i.e. self-defence). Legion states the Geth are confused about organics and that the Geth will make their own future (two reasons as to why communicating with sentient organic species may not be a top priority for them).

[Rip504]

If you use unnessary force while in the act of self defense and kill someone in America you go to jail for murder.The Geth feel no compassion so when they had the Quarians beat they didn't let up,you can't tell me the war was at a stalemate and the Quarians decided to fly off.common sense would say they were losing and the Geth weren't letting up.

AND in ME1 the Geth invade human space.-Armstrong-Tali clearly states she needs to find Geth that are NOT under Saren's control and find out about how the Geth have evoled in the last 300 years(For her side quest in ME1).Explain that as a non hostile move.Those were as you say True Geth not Heritics.

Modifié par Rip504, 07 février 2010 - 10:52 .

[Sleepicub09]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

Your saying the Geth are peaceful.I'm saying they have made NO attempts at peace.Read what I am saying.

Read what I'm typing: The Geth favour peace according to Legion. That is not to say that the Geth are not capable of violence if provoked (i.e. self-defence). Legion states the Geth are confused about organics and that the Geth will make their own future (two reasons as to why communicating with sentient organic species may not be a top priority for them).

QFT

[ComTrav]

I think it begs pointing out that the Geth couldn't have been all that smart when they first became self-aware. Intelligent, maybe, but inexperienced...probably, they acted only out of interest for their own survival. Definitely not sophisticated enough to engage in diplomacy. Probably, not even wise enough to realize they had gone too far in their war with the Quarians.



By the time of ME2, they're much more developed. Seeing Tali and Legion face off, or talking to the Quarian admirals, one couldn't help but think this was an endless cycle of vengeance that was destructive to both races.

[Yazman]

WE LOVE TALI! Tali in ME3 for squad member and continued romance!

[The_KFD_Case]

Kami102 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

The way I see it, I'll (IMO) definitely support the quarians in the war against the geth.

Sure it was wrong for the quarians to try to kill them off once they reached a "sapient" state, but there's no excuse in completely knocking off an entire species off their homeworld, forcing them to become scavangers as they search for another world.

And I know its a little selfish, but I'm just saying -- the geth aren't "living". They're machines that can be easily replaced and remade. A living being with a soul carries MUCH more weight than a machine.

I would gladly love to see the Quarians re-take their homeworld in ME3 so that they can return to their lives as it were, peacefully (Obviously they're not gonna make the same mistake again).
They made a mistake, and already paid horribly for it. They deserve a second chance, like any other living being deserves.

That's just my opinion anyway xD

That's fine; it's certainly one way to try and regain the Quarian homeworld though the odds favour the Geth. I'm simply proposing trying the peaceful solution first. If it works then everyone can walk away happy. If it doesn't work then we can dust off the cannons and make war.

NP; It's just that I cannot possibly see diplomatic relations coming out on the Quarian's side.
Knowing the Quarians, many of them will be thirsty for revenge on what the Geth did to them (Including Tali *wink wink*)

If the Quarians stand a chance against the geth, it has to be the whole fleet, sending any less will result in a disaster and not to mention a waste of many lives in an already crippled state that they're [the quarians] are in.

I truely am a quarian sympathizer -- and I know the most noble thing to do is seek diplomatic relations with them.
I personally, just don't trust them. Sure, the geth a split between the true and the heretics, but they are still machines. What's to stop a heretic geth from hacking into the "true" geth, turning them into more heretics, resulting in another war between the quarians?

The Geth are just "there". They really provide no essential task for other species in the universe. You don't see them helping anyone or anything. So there really would be no consequences in wiping out the geth entirely.

Possibly, and yet with a high enough persuasion ability Shepard is able to persuade both Tali and Legion that each side has good reasons for their points of view. Tali then extends an olive branch by freely offering non-sensitive information about the Flotilla to Legion which is sent back to the main Geth consciousness (which Tali gives her accept of). It holds promise of a possible peace agreement between the two factions, especially since there are Quarians who favour a peaceful solution with the Geth (one of them is a high ranking admiral). Will it be easy? Probably not, "Nothing worthwhile ever comes easy" says Cmdr. Shepard.


Don't get me wrong: I was distrustful of Legion and its claims about the Geth at first. I'm aware that it may be lies though I doubt it. I very much want the Quarians to reclaim their homeworld, and failing that at least finally find a new planet hospitable to them which they can begin anew on. It's been a long time coming - way too long, IMO - and it's time for that people to find some good fortune as a collective people and not be treated as thieves left, right and center by the rest of the galactic community. I sympathize deeply with the Quarians and if it were my decision I would have offered them a homeworld long ago and offered to patrol it with Alliance military until the Quarians could pick up the slack for themselves. Alas, it is not my call and perhaps it is for the best because once the Quarians do settle on a homeworld - old or new - it will be their homeworld, establised by their hands at their own initiative and they will be beholden to no one for it (except maybe for a famous human spectre by the name of Shepard if I have my way and the hopefully good graces of the Geth).

There will be a consequence to wiping out the Geth. Possibly at least two: 1) Wiping out the Geth will require enormous resources and the loss of much life. The Quarians do not have either in abundance. 2) The Geth may make for a potent ally against the Reapers and frankly the galaxy can use all the help it can get in fighting the Reapers.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 07 février 2010 - 11:00 .