Finally figured it out! IFF problem SPOILERS <-----
#1
Guest_Nadia73_*
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:03
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After you pick up the reaper IFF, EDI tells you immediately that you 'need to take a shuttle while I install and test it' etc and then it seems after that, that unavoidable cut scene starts where you all leave and then you play as Joker. This leaves you pretty much screwed if you want to rescue all the crew that the Collectors swipe AND do Legion's loyalty mission. Doing Legion's mission after the crew is stolen erases all chances of getting ALL the crew back. But NOT getting Legion's loyalty brings up issues for the suicide mission as well.
So what to do?
Well, it's very simple actually. Do NOT upgrade the Normandy. There should be one last upgrade after your last loyalty mission, be it shields, weapon or whatever- DON'T upgrade it in the research terminal. Leave it be BEFORE you do the IFF mission and then EDI will STILL tell you that you need to take a shuttle, but when you go into the galaxy map, you are free to go wherever and no cutscene!!
Do all you need to get done and then when you upgrade the ship after that, the cutscene will execute when you go into the map afterwards.
Problem solved!!
Hope this helps everyone having that issue! :happy:
#2
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:05
I haven't heard of this issue before but I think it's probably a bug.
#3
Guest_Nadia73_*
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:07
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having all of the upgrades completed is what triggers the cutscene though. i am all done and should have had the cutscene by now, but since I've chosen to leave upgrades undone, it hasn't.
Modifié par Nadia73, 07 février 2010 - 11:08 .
#4
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:08
#5
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:08
Thus your theory would be incorrect. So if you experienced it, it must have been a lucky glitch.
Edit: @LostHH you don't meet Legion until the IFF mission. Straight after that quest is finished you get a cut-scene in the meet room with Miranda and Jacob discussing what to do with him, Miranda offers you send him back to Cerberus for research, Jacob says should shoot him out the airlock
Your options are to talk to him or send him back. EDI then I think brings up the IFF thing and I think you get 2 options there. I think they might offer different time periods before the event kicks in, but its probably only a 1-2 mission difference. The time thing is just a theory I have on that issue.
Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 07 février 2010 - 11:12 .
#6
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:09
#7
Guest_Nadia73_*
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:10
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LostHH wrote...
Odd. I had the option to do Legions' loyalty mission before I got the IFF so all was ok for me, was one of the last missions I done before going through the relay
how can you get Legion's loyalty mission before you get the IFF? Legion is on the reaper where you find the IFF. One leads to the other.
Modifié par Nadia73, 07 février 2010 - 11:12 .
#8
Guest_Nadia73_*
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:10
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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...
You are aware you can go through the relay with none of the upgrades right?
Thus your theory would be incorrect. So if you experienced it, it must have been a lucky glitch.
I'm sure you can but I've never done it. It obviously kills off members and I don't want that!
#9
Guest_Nadia73_*
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:11
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Modifié par Nadia73, 07 février 2010 - 11:12 .
#10
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:11
Nadia73 wrote...
Seems a lot of people are having problems with this part in the game and I just tested a theory and it worked!
After you pick up the reaper IFF, EDI tells you immediately that you 'need to take a shuttle while I install and test it' etc and then it seems after that, that unavoidable cut scene starts where you all leave and then you play as Joker. This leaves you pretty much screwed if you want to rescue all the crew that the Collectors swipe AND do Legion's loyalty mission. Doing Legion's mission after the crew is stolen erases all chances of getting ALL the crew back. But NOT getting Legion's loyalty brings up issues for the suicide mission as well.
So what to do?
Well, it's very simple actually. Do NOT upgrade the Normandy. There should be one last upgrade after your last loyalty mission, be it shields, weapon or whatever- DON'T upgrade it in the research terminal. Leave it be BEFORE you do the IFF mission and then EDI will STILL tell you that you need to take a shuttle, but when you go into the galaxy map, you are free to go wherever and no cutscene!!
Do all you need to get done and then when you upgrade the ship after that, the cutscene will execute when you go into the map afterwards.
Problem solved!!
Hope this helps everyone having that issue! :happy:
Awesome if that works, thanks for the tips!
#11
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:12
#12
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:12
#13
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:14
Nadia73 wrote...
Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...
You are aware you can go through the relay with none of the upgrades right?
Thus your theory would be incorrect. So if you experienced it, it must have been a lucky glitch.
I'm sure you can but I've never done it. It obviously kills off members and I don't want that!
Yes but my point was is that if you experienced that situation with the map, you must have found a lucky glitch because as far as I am aware, the ship upgrades can't account to any event unlocking if you can go through with no upgrades.
Edit: Yes if you go through the relay straight away it is one of the colonists that dies. Someone actually does state this. Most people believe the one in the pod is Lilith (the one Ash/Kaiden is speaking to in the horizon cut-scene)
Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 07 février 2010 - 11:15 .
#14
Guest_Nadia73_*
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:14
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BigKahuna25 wrote...
hmm... when i did it if i went up to the galaxy map before activating legion it gave the use a shuttle mission but if you sneak by to the elevator and activate legion you can talk to him immediately after to get his mission and go to the galaxy map and do the mission, after which the crew gwts collected.
did you lose half the crew though? I find even if I did Legion's mission right afterwards then ran to the Omega relay, I STILL lost half the Normandy crew on the Collector ship.
#15
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:15
and no i saved them all
Modifié par BigKahuna25, 07 février 2010 - 11:15 .
#16
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:15
DaerogTheDhampir wrote...
Did IFF mission, said they need to prepare to set it up, talked to Legion, did Legion's loyalty mission, Normandy attacked, I save everyone. That first person you run into always dies as far as I know, a minor npc.
This... maybe people are opening the galaxy map before talking to Legion? If you go activate and talk to him right away and get his loyalty mission, the game should allow you to do it before the abduction. If it's not, then I strongly suspect it's bugged.
#17
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:16
I'm not sure how the game does it, first time through I did the IFF fairly early and it gave me time to do more than just one mission before the shuttle cutscene. Maybe it comes back to you being fairly ready? Because I also remember Jacob arguing to go after the crew while Miranda argues that we should stick with training the team and upgrading.
However if you complete all the loyalty missions, get all the upgrades, and then do the whole reaper iff thing THEN Miranda will say that we've done all we can, let's do it.
And yes, you can go through O4 relay with almost nothing at all. You will die, it's practically a given, but you can complete your mission - maybe.
#18
Guest_Nadia73_*
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:16
Guest_Nadia73_*
Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...
Nadia73 wrote...
Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...
You are aware you can go through the relay with none of the upgrades right?
Thus your theory would be incorrect. So if you experienced it, it must have been a lucky glitch.
I'm sure you can but I've never done it. It obviously kills off members and I don't want that!
Yes but my point was is that if you experienced that situation with the map, you must have found a lucky glitch because as far as I am aware, the ship upgrades can't account to any event unlocking if you can go through with no upgrades.
Edit: Yes if you go through the relay straight away it is one of the colonists that dies. Someone actually does state this. Most people believe the one in the pod is Lilith (the one Ash/Kaiden is speaking to in the horizon cut-scene)
well let's see how it works for other people, then we'll see whether it's a glitch or not.
there was at least two threads about this problem.. probably on the 10th page by now.
#19
Guest_Nadia73_*
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:17
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BigKahuna25 wrote...
yeah one of the colonists if you go through right after losing the crew
and no i saved them all
yup the dark haired one is the colonist. last time i played though it was Kelly Chambers in the first pod, and I lost half the crew. this was rushing too... weird.
#20
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:19
Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...
You are aware you can go through the relay with none of the upgrades right?
Thus your theory would be incorrect. So if you experienced it, it must have been a lucky glitch.
Edit: @LostHH you don't meet Legion until the IFF mission. Straight after that quest is finished you get a cut-scene in the meet room with Miranda and Jacob discussing what to do with him, Miranda offers you send him back to Cerberus for research, Jacob says should shoot him out the airlock
Your options are to talk to him or send him back. EDI then I think brings up the IFF thing and I think you get 2 options there. I think they might offer different time periods before the event kicks in, but its probably only a 1-2 mission difference. The time thing is just a theory I have on that issue.
Ah yes, that's right. I activated him straight away and went to talk to him then before anything else then went on to do the loyalty mission so I could talk to him some more. Must've been lucky in my selection!
The IFF thing was confusing me as I wasn't aware at first that all I had to do was activate the galaxy map. Was wondering around the ship for awhile looking for some way to trigger it
#21
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:20
I went through with no upgrades and only tali loyal (because i wanted to take legion to the migrant fleet) to try and get the I die ending and i thought it was more difficult than getting everyone out alive. maybe if i hadnt recruited everyone... but i couldnt do it with the crew also dying and having joker be the only one left.aeetos21 wrote...
And yes, you can go through O4 relay with almost nothing at all. You will die, it's practically a given, but you can complete your mission - maybe.
#22
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:22
But I did legion's mission right before thatNadia73 wrote...
Seems a lot of people are having problems with this part in the game and I just tested a theory and it worked!
After you pick up the reaper IFF, EDI tells you immediately that you 'need to take a shuttle while I install and test it' etc and then it seems after that, that unavoidable cut scene starts where you all leave and then you play as Joker. This leaves you pretty much screwed if you want to rescue all the crew that the Collectors swipe AND do Legion's loyalty mission. Doing Legion's mission after the crew is stolen erases all chances of getting ALL the crew back. But NOT getting Legion's loyalty brings up issues for the suicide mission as well.
So what to do?
Well, it's very simple actually. Do NOT upgrade the Normandy. There should be one last upgrade after your last loyalty mission, be it shields, weapon or whatever- DON'T upgrade it in the research terminal. Leave it be BEFORE you do the IFF mission and then EDI will STILL tell you that you need to take a shuttle, but when you go into the galaxy map, you are free to go wherever and no cutscene!!
Do all you need to get done and then when you upgrade the ship after that, the cutscene will execute when you go into the map afterwards.
Problem solved!!
Hope this helps everyone having that issue! :happy:
#23
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:24
#24
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:24
First playthrough I sent him back to Cerberus am holding off with my 2nd playthrough at moment as am pondering whether to wait for Kasumi or just do suicide run then pick her up after. I've done everyones loyalty mission apart from Zaeed at moment and hardly done any N7 missions, so got plenty of them to use after the IFF trip.LostHH wrote...
Ah yes, that's right. I activated him straight away and went to talk to him then before anything else then went on to do the loyalty mission so I could talk to him some more. Must've been lucky in my selection!
The IFF thing was confusing me as I wasn't aware at first that all I had to do was activate the galaxy map. Was wondering around the ship for awhile looking for some way to trigger it
I think another reason am holding back is because the IFF mission was my least favourite as I died the most there thanks to those annoying husks!
#25
Posté 07 février 2010 - 11:30
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