op has some good writing, if that was your motive for blowing it up, i however was merely after revenge, couldn't care less about the whole "use it for science/blow it up because its an abomination" arguments the game was making.
Anyone find Shepard's reasoning for blowing the Collector base a bit ...puerile?
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#52
Posté 08 février 2010 - 05:40
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Indeed. When TIM claimed that I was being idealistic, I wanted to say that he's being idealistic to think he could control Reaper technology. Saren thought he could.
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#53
Posté 08 février 2010 - 05:45
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Kerilus wrote...
Indeed. When TIM claimed that I was being idealistic, I wanted to say that he's being idealistic to think he could control Reaper technology. Saren thought he could.
That's not idealism. That's arrogance and hubris.
#54
Posté 08 février 2010 - 05:49
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Well, arrogance and hubris are people being too idealistic about their capability.
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#55
Posté 08 février 2010 - 06:00
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ReplicantZero wrote...
Found the cinematics and music in the final mission as impressive as anything in ME1, if not more so. However to me some of the dialogues in this mission really jarred as being almost childish.
One that really sticks in my mind is Shepard's decision to blow up the Collector base. This is is a momentous choice, potentially affecting all life in the galaxy.
The reason my Shepard wanted to give to TIM would be along these lines: "You think this is an opportunity, but you don't really understand what you're dealing with here. Every attempt to use Reaper technology has backfired, and I've seen minds far greater than your own become tools of the Reapers. Sorry, but the risks of leaving this base intact are too great."
Instead Shepard gives her reason for blowing it up as "I won't let fear compromise who I am" like some self-obsessed teenager - as if the only important thing here is how it affects her.
I don't know if the dialogue-writers changed, but I seem to remember dialogues being smarter and less 'emo' in ME1 (eg the way she pointed out to Saren in their first encounter that he was already indoctrinated and didn't even know it).
I blew up the station and it wasn't for the thought that we, the good guys, could just waltz into other Reaper ships and blow them up like Shepard seems to indicate. Humans/Cerberus/Alliance doesn't own that area of the galaxy. It's not easy to travel there and wouldn't be easy to hold it if you did manage to get people on board. TIM's bomb may not be effective against prothean techs or life shielded in those cocoons. To me, it struck me that leaving this ship in place is just asking for the Reapers to take it over again. So yea, I agree that the dialogue didn't match my thoughts if I were Shepard there.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 06:06
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shepard is an emotional fool throughout the series. mordins loyalty mission and the end choice in ME2 cement this further. shep has to concentrate mass appeal into 1-3 lines, so i guess that means he has to be simple enough for the masses to comprehend.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 06:14
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I'd rather have just said to TIM "Go to hell" then cut communication and blow the base to hell. In honour of Kahoku
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 06:38
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Mordin was the determining factor in my choice, telling me about the dangers of introducing tech to a civilization that isn't ready for it. "We're going to fight the reapers on our own terms" sums it up pretty well.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:26
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Frotality wrote...
shepard is an emotional fool throughout the series. mordins loyalty mission and the end choice in ME2 cement this further. shep has to concentrate mass appeal into 1-3 lines, so i guess that means he has to be simple enough for the masses to comprehend.
The thing is, Shepard does have some great dialogue throughout the series (both ME1 and ME2), and combined with Jennifer Hale's voice, built up a fairly convincing picture of a cool, intelligent heroine for me. Eg in ME2, love the way she handles the bartender in this incident: www.youtube.com/watch .
Which is why I personally found the change in dialogue 'style' so jarring (and also why it's so easy to think up alternative lines for her).
