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[NICKjnp]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

I personally think Dominate is pretty weak compared to Reave. Reave stops regeneration and immobilizes the target, and works on any enemy, while Dominate just sets the organics to fighting amongst themselves. It's like a Combat Drone that only works with organics.

Reave is great... I use it on my vanguards.  I'm just saying it is funny to watch dominate.  Also... Morinth has higher health than Samara.  If you max ardat-yakshi then she has 280 health (equal to Jacob).  That means her health is second only to Grunt.

I didn't know that about Morinth's health.  She still has throw and pull.  So do you prefer Samara in combat on higher levels and Morinth on lower levels?

On hardcore and insanity I don't prefer Morinth period.  Extra health is nothing.  I only use her on Veteran and below.  On hardcore and insanity I prefer Samara simply because reave breaks through barriers and armor (and Morinth is a crazy)... plus once you use it on a target down to health then Samara gets 200 health bonus for 20 seconds or so.

Modifié par NICKjnp, 05 avril 2010 - 05:53 .

[Reaper27]

NICKjnp wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Will you all stone me to death if I admit that on my Renegade Soldier playthrough, Ashley Shepard chose Morinth over Samara? I really just wanted to see what would happen, and to get the Morinth Normandy dialogue.

Actually the real reason is that Ashley Shepard always does the most evil thing possible: everything I would not do, she does. So it was only natural that she would choose the serial killer over the samurai. It is fascinating to hear Morinth's side of the story, but she's no less a monster for all that she has her own point of view.

I will say this for Morinth, she is an adversary worthy of Samara.

And she has higher health.... though I only choose her when my Shepard is Darth Shepard.  It is fun using group dominate on a cluster of husks.  Though honestly....

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Damn, that smile makes me shiver

[BlackMetal]

yorkj86 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

This is similar to my thoughts about it concerning how the story and dialog are written anyway.  One could make the argument though, that with some women you nearly have to push it a little at first if your going to get anywhere with them romantically.  You have to at least show confidence and show that you are willing to pursue them to a certain degree before giving up.  Not saying that this is the case with Samara specifically though.  I have always been of the impression that Samara is out of Shep's league in the confines of how it is written in ME2.

This is true, Shepard has to be assertive, or he would never know what might have become of the situation.   I lament the way his lines were written, though.  In the case of Samara, he's SOL, either way, as Samara resists his advances, and most likely wouldn't respond to him being passive about his feelings for her.  She's both too old for that kind of dalliance, and too dedicated to her convictions.

Do you support Samara as a LI in ME 3?

[Ashira Shepard]

I used to, now I'm afraid of doing so in case someone flames me for being inconsiderate...*cowers*

[BlackMetal]

I support it but Bioware will have to walk a fine line to do it right.

[Ashira Shepard]

Thank you JD You're my new best friend. You get MM-Cookies daily!

Agreed that Bioware would have the handle it just right for it to work...and make sense, for ME3. I still want it to happen...

*cough* Now back to writing...*tap-tap-tap*

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 05 avril 2010 - 06:25 .

[Ashira Shepard]

How would you have it done? :<

[DirtyVagrant]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

AshiraShepard wrote...

I used to, now I'm afraid of doing so in case someone flames me for being inconsiderate...*cowers*

*laughs*
Bioware can always tweak her character a little and the story to fit it in I would think.  Whether they do or not is a different story.  She has some of the traits that I could see myself being attracted to.  Nothing wrong with wanting to romance her IMO.:innocent:

You think a retcon or minor rewrite would be the only ways a romance with Samara could work?

The way matters are now with the realtionship would not feel right to me in ME3.  They would have to emplement an element of contrast to how her character is being presented now in order for it to come off right IMO.   Some kind of an event that involves the two of them for example I suppose.  Something that would explain Samara changing and being drawn to Shepard.

You mean saving all those innocent lives from the Reapers won't get Samara all hot and bothered? Man, some women are tough to please. 

[Siansonea]

I don't mind the inclusion of Samara as a love interest in ME3 or ME2 DLC, but I'm not particularly in favor of it either. If people want it, it should be an option, but I don't particularly want it. I like her loner personality.

[Ashira Shepard]

This is...true.

Example: there have been many that have lost interest straight away upon realising that Kasumi isn't an LI. I'm not bothered, I'm still interested in her as a character - very curious to see how the missions go with her.

So I agree with you there; and it doesn't make you snooty

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 05 avril 2010 - 07:28 .

[volly0071]

My stance has always been that you do have a romance with Samara. It just doesn't culminate in a cheap hormone driven encounter at the end. Love doesn't have to end up in bed to be shared. 

This is a special type of romance, one I think B/A actually did very well. If she is in the next installment of the story I don't see where B/A has to change anything with the char to allow for a furthering of your relationship with her.(not that I want that) My only request is that they make anyone who pushed it with her pay. Meaning you shouldn't get more than friendship out of her if you weren't mature enough(too horny) to let it go in the first place.

I support the idea of her as a LI, but only if the char stays true to itself. No pandering to the relationaly challanged. 

@ whoever: posted the screens, cool

Modifié par volly0071, 05 avril 2010 - 10:07 .

[BlackMetal]

yorkj86 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

I don't mind the inclusion of Samara as a love interest in ME3 or ME2 DLC, but I'm not particularly in favor of it either. If people want it, it should be an option, but I don't particularly want it. I like her loner personality.

No matter what, and no matter how snooty it makes me appear to be, I think making Samara non-romanceable in ME2 weeded out, in more ways than one, the individuals who can't appreciate a well-written character.

Hey man don't feel bad, i agree 100%

Modifié par BlackMetal, 05 avril 2010 - 07:43 .

[Ashira Shepard]

volly0071 wrote...

This is a special type or romance one I think B/A actually did very well. If she is in the next installment of the story I don't see where B/A has to change anything with the char to allow for a furthering of your relationship with her.(not that I want that) My only request is that they make anyone who pushed it with her pay. Meaning you shouldn't get more than friendship out of her if you weren't mature enough(too horny) to let it go in the first place.

Probably wrong of me to feel mildly offended by this, maybe because whenever I'm writing or playing, my Shepard isn't driven by lust. Having developed her more as a character by now; very difficult for her to show emotion and feel love for another. But she fell for Samara, and fell hard.

Maybe it's a personal fault for being young :<

[Grunt420]

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[Ashira Shepard]

Link is broken man. We get redirected to Dragon Age.