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I'll admit she is a pretty good character. Not one of my favorites though.

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kelmar6821 wrote...

I still think that Samara putting down her justicar mantle between 2 and 3 is the most plausible path to her as an LI. Morinth was the orginal reason she became a justicar. I don't think its ooc if her orignal mission has been completed. Also it would mean that she could join the other matriarchs on the asari homeworld and push for support against the reapers, but i don't see how a romance would be possible in that scenario.


Criminals aren't going to stop doing what they do just because Morinth is dead.  Samara has dedicated herself to something greater to herself.  It was mentioned before, that in ME3, Samara should use her influence as a Justicar to help Shepard throw his weight around in bringing the different species together, if that's what Bioware will be doing.  Samara wouldn't be there for a Renegade Shepard, and it seems to me that a Renegade Shepard will achieve victory through whatever means he's provided with by Cerberus.

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I think i want Samara to remain a justicar, i mean how can someone who's sacrficed everything retire, what do you go back to? Samara and justicar-hood go hand in hand. Furthermore i hope they do not write her in as a throw in either. She should have a distinct purpose and not be needing shepard to resolve her personal issues only. The writers really have to walk a fine line in not cheapening her character

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I love that piercing gaze of Samara's. The one that gives you the feeling of being X-rayed.

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I agree with 7Makaveli. Samara and Justicars are deeply tied in my mind. I couldn't imagine her as anything else. yorkj86 brings up a good point though. Samara is Shepard's strongest connection to the asari world (I don't think Liara is a contendor here because she doesn't hold as high a place in asari society). If Shepard needs to get the asari on his/her side, then who better to convince them than an individual who embodies their highest laws? If Samara on her own isn't enough, then maybe she can get the other Justicars to convince the asari government to join the fight.



Most of this relates to her role in the larger scheme of things. I'm having trouble thinking about her character however. Perhaps delving into the bond of friendship between Shep and Samara? Oh, what about their bond as equals? This is something unique to their relationship in comparison to the rest of the crew.

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Flamewielder wrote...

To me, Samara's comment about the Justicars existing to "punish the unjust and protect the innocent, not bring about spiritual enlightenment" are a clear indication that they are NOT a religious order, even if Samara herself believes in the Godess. Asari religious beliefs have blended smoothly across their society, of which the Justicars are a small but traditionally significant part. Justicars do not punish criminals and protect the innocent to please their Godess; they do it because asari society demands that they do. It is a duty, not a divine mission.


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But on this, I think that's a great point Flamewielder, and one that fits in with what Officer Dara says when she says Justicars represent the asari's code.  She makes it pretty clear that the Code Samara follows is the asari's code she even states 'our code'.

So it's pretty clear that most law abiding asari don't consider the Justicar's Code something outdated or apart from society, its something they feel is a part of them and I'd guess the reason why Justicars still exist.  Asari society accepts them as a necessary part of itself, their actions support and uphold societal values.

I find the existance of the Justicars a very interesting statement about the asari actually.

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First we have the conspiracy!

As scene in this screen shot taken after the fight scene, SHE ISN"T DEAD!
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It is very clear that her hidden disco danace floor of ressurection has kept her alive!
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Proof? yes you might say that
*damnit* photobucket isn't uploading my video basically you can see her eyes twitching if you zoom in with free cam




Now for the commical

There are many reason why you shouldn't pick  Morinth over Samara
AND THESE ARE TWO OF THE BIGGEST!
what she looks like after your muddled brain snaps out of it
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during the fight scene i could help but say to my self "The power of christ compels you!":o
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"Time for your spanking dear"
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She is soooo baked...
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Now for some serious ones
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hmm these five i took in a burst, it happens after she kills morinth its like you can see her progress from sorrow to acceptance. click
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okay, here are the rest
my Samara album
http://s8.photobucke...mara/?start=all

my mass effect album
http://s8.photobucke...fect/?start=all

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LOL. Those Morinth ones are hilarious.

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Great Screens man

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kelmar6821 wrote...
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I like this one for some reason. She either has a krink in her neck or is just making sure she "still has it".

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Siansonea II wrote...

I've often wondered about asari eyes, how they can glow with biotic corona and yet also turn black. Is the black hue some sort of nictitating membrane, I wonder? Does it cover the sclera and iris to protect the asari from too much light during moments when their eyes may remain open and yet unresponsive to light changes? Has this been explained elsewhere?


I like the inner eyelid idea, it makes sense in what appears to be a more aquatic species than ours (the asari that is).

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DirtyVagrant wrote...

kelmar6821 wrote...
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I like this one for some reason. She either has a krink in her neck or is just making sure she "still has it".



"I'm pretty sure I can still outdance these silly little maidans..."

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AshiraShepard wrote...

That's...alot of screens. Not sure how many I have. *scratches head*

Good morning people. Had to update Fractured Soul with an Author's note at the end because of this guy->
(if not read the story, best to not read the guys review, contains spoilers, and so does my following reaction)


Tense and well written,although I honestly cant see Shep losing it the way the story portrays.I'm a little confused about the ending,has Shep taken on the persona of a Justicar?If so,disturbing,indicative of serious mental disorder.

Thank you for not logging in or giving me any form of replying.

Added to the end of the chapter:

Author Note: Due to a recent review, I may need to clear up something for anyone reading this and confused by the ending.

Ashira has taken on the persona of a Justicar, and yes, whilst how she's "lost it" in this story may not be how you picture your Shepard reacting, this is how I view mine doing so. As a developed character by now, I know how wounded Ashira already is as a person; she fell madly in love once, and that person died on Akuze while she was running to her for saftey. Since then, she hadn't let anyone get close enough to touch her heart. I realise this conflicts with the implied Shepard/Liara in my previous one-shots, but I only came to this conclusion recently; I've still been developing Ashira as a character and person.

Ashira fell hard and unexpectedly for Samara, so losing her like that was just the final straw for Ash's strength. She's saved the galaxy three times now; her purpose is gone - the reapers are destroyed. And the only person she's ever loved since Akuze died.

End Author Note

Seem reasonable?


Seems very reasonable to me, and it was obvious that this wasn't in the same continuity line as your other three.  Or at least I assumed that it wasn't, for some reason I saw your last as one of the stories where they never consumated thier love for one another but it was always there and acknowledged between them.

Personally as a writer my viewpoint is it's your character to take in the direction you want.  Other's may agree or disagree with it but ultimately you're the one writing it and you should stay true to your vision of the character and storyline and not let the reviewers pull you in this or that direction just because they think your story should be written a different way.

Not to discourage reviews or contrary opinions, writers love those.  Feed your fanfic writer :wizard:

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Asari Law Question



Ok given that the Justicar Code is supposed to embody the Asari's highest laws.



Officer Dara: Just be polite when you meet her Justicars embody our highest laws and they usually stay in asari space. She's not used to dealing with aliens.



And that lawbreakers are usually stopped with lethal force, and no law abiding asari would question a Justicars decision or orders.



What does that say about general asari law?



In Samara's recruitment mission, you pretty much wipe out the entire Eclipse base and no one says a thing about it, not Samara, not Detective Anaya. When you do Thane's recruitment mission the only thing you get is the Cerberus report note that legal representatives are dealing with the public damage to Dantius Towers.



I'm trying to figure out where exactly Shepard stands legal wise with killing the Eclipse mercs, the game doesn't acknowledge whether or not your a Specter here so that doesn't make a difference.



Is asari law as black and white as the Code? If you break the law are the legal repercussions almost as severe as Samara's response?

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I wouldn't be surprised if space is mostly lawless. Consider all of the overlapping jurisdictions, and places with no jurisdiction at all. There are C-Sec, the Illum police force, the Justicars...just imagine the bureaucracy nightmare everyone would have to endure. These are probably reasons for why the Justicar Order still exists, and why the Justicars and the Spectres are in place.  Train a person well, and just pray they don't get too big for their britches.

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I was surprised to find that at the root of such a wide space-faring species there is a conservative justice driven rule that all asari have to acknowledge. there's also the thing that officer Dara says about how humans can't figure out their own religions. it pretty much makes Justicars the most recognizable and controversial figures in asari space. its too bad that Dara and the other detective are the only two asari that give insight into Justicars. not even Liara or Aria seem too enamored by them. I thought Aria would have been a little concerned that a Justicar is present in such a corrupt place like Omega, or maybe she figured that Samara must have sworn the third oath to be following Shepard around.

EDIT: would it have been that much trouble to cut out Dara and give Liara her lines? it may have compensated for some of the idiotic writing they did with her character...

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7Makaveli wrote...

I was surprised to find that at the root of such a wide space-faring species there is a conservative justice driven rule that all asari have to acknowledge. there's also the thing that officer Dara says about how humans can't figure out their own religions. it pretty much makes Justicars the most recognizable and controversial figures in asari space. its too bad that Dara and the other detective are the only two asari that give insight into Justicars. not even Liara or Aria seem too enamored by them. I thought Aria would have been a little concerned that a Justicar is present in such a corrupt place like Omega, or maybe she figured that Samara must have sworn the third oath to be following Shepard around.

EDIT: would it have been that much trouble to cut out Dara and give Liara her lines? it may have compensated for some of the idiotic writing they did with her character...


"Idiotic" is how things work now.

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yorkj86 wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised if space is mostly lawless. Consider all of the overlapping jurisdictions, and places with no jurisdiction at all. There are C-Sec, the Illum police force, the Justicars...just imagine the bureaucracy nightmare everyone would have to endure. These are probably reasons for why the Justicar Order still exists, and why the Justicars and the Spectres are in place.  Train a person well, and just pray they don't get too big for their britches.

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I agree space is mostly lawless, but I'm talking about asari space, the area that contains Thessia and their major colony worlds.

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Goodbye, Mother.

http://social.biowar...85456/1#1591451


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Morinth wrote...
Goodbye, Mother.

The enemy is watching us.:unsure:

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Hide! Hide anywhere! Don't look into her eyes! They'll turn you to stone! Oh wait, wrong creature... :?

First "Kasumi Goto" and now "Morinth"

Users with character names and acting (relatively speaking) like said characters. Interesting phenomenon :ph34r:

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Morinth wrote...
Goodbye, Mother.

http://social.biowar...85456/1#1591451


Ahhh, so thats where that comes from, I wasn't sure where in the game actually came from. Good to know!

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I agree space is mostly lawless, but I'm talking about asari space, the area that contains Thessia and their major colony worlds.


We have no clue.  The in-game Codex tells us that there are no proper politicians in Asari government, as all governmental matters are voted on through consensus, though most citizens gravitated towards Matriarchs who share their views.  The Asari take a long time to get anything done because of this.

The Codex also tells us that the Justicars are the final, ultimate response to criminal activity.   Samara tells us that if a Justicar is involved, peaceful negotations are long past.  The Asari tend to be non-confrontational, so when criminals won't respond to kind words alone, they send in the Justicars.