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Posté 20 avril 2010 - 09:54

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7Makaveli wrote...

I always found it curious how you can ask Samara about Jacob and Miranda only. I hoped that her thoughts would change on them (for better or worse depending on circumstances) as time went on, especially of you do their loyalty mission. But it seems we're just supposed to interpret her thoughts on them at face value. She could have been used better as a barometer for judging your squadmates character from a different perspective, and perhaps foreshadow their future situations (in ME3).


Every teammate should have had lines about every other teammate.  Samara's lines about Miranda and Jacob were a decent start.   I also like hearing Kelly's thoughts about everyone.

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DOYOURLABS wrote...

Wait now that I think of it... isn't Jacob's story REALLY similar to Garrus's?
They both wanted to make a difference
They both got sick of "red tape"
They both left an organization to make a difference (Garrus left C-Sec to join you, and Jacob left the alliance and joined cerberus)
They both started a group to fight crime (Garrus and his Omega squad and Jacob being a corsair)



But does Garrus have daddy-issues?    Most teammates do, in some form or another.

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Posté 20 avril 2010 - 10:14

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yorkj86 wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

I always found it curious how you can ask Samara about Jacob and Miranda only. I hoped that her thoughts would change on them (for better or worse depending on circumstances) as time went on, especially of you do their loyalty mission. But it seems we're just supposed to interpret her thoughts on them at face value. She could have been used better as a barometer for judging your squadmates character from a different perspective, and perhaps foreshadow their future situations (in ME3).


Every teammate should have had lines about every other teammate.  Samara's lines about Miranda and Jacob were a decent start.   I also like hearing Kelly's thoughts about everyone.

That would have been nice to have.  Isn't Jacob actually a fairly important figure in the ME overall canon.

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Posté 20 avril 2010 - 11:10

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yorkj86 wrote...

DOYOURLABS wrote...

Wait now that I think of it... isn't Jacob's story REALLY similar to Garrus's?
They both wanted to make a difference
They both got sick of "red tape"
They both left an organization to make a difference (Garrus left C-Sec to join you, and Jacob left the alliance and joined cerberus)
They both started a group to fight crime (Garrus and his Omega squad and Jacob being a corsair)



But does Garrus have daddy-issues?    Most teammates do, in some form or another.

Actually he does. In ME1 he complains about him. Something like "He didn't like me training to be a spectre because he didn't like them being able to do anything."

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Posté 20 avril 2010 - 11:45

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DOYOURLABS wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

DOYOURLABS wrote...

Wait now that I think of it... isn't Jacob's story REALLY similar to Garrus's?
They both wanted to make a difference
They both got sick of "red tape"
They both left an organization to make a difference (Garrus left C-Sec to join you, and Jacob left the alliance and joined cerberus)
They both started a group to fight crime (Garrus and his Omega squad and Jacob being a corsair)



But does Garrus have daddy-issues?    Most teammates do, in some form or another.

Actually he does. In ME1 he complains about him. Something like "He didn't like me training to be a spectre because he didn't like them being able to do anything."

I wouldn't call that an issue, at least not in the context of the discussion.  It is not uncommon for one's father to have an influence on one's decision and be vocal about his opinions regarding what his son (garrus) should do with his life.

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Posté 20 avril 2010 - 11:49

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I am surprised that no one wants to speculate on how things might have gone differently if the humans in mass effect had met the asari first. :)

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Posté 20 avril 2010 - 11:50

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

DOYOURLABS wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

DOYOURLABS wrote...

Wait now that I think of it... isn't Jacob's story REALLY similar to Garrus's?
They both wanted to make a difference
They both got sick of "red tape"
They both left an organization to make a difference (Garrus left C-Sec to join you, and Jacob left the alliance and joined cerberus)
They both started a group to fight crime (Garrus and his Omega squad and Jacob being a corsair)



But does Garrus have daddy-issues?    Most teammates do, in some form or another.

Actually he does. In ME1 he complains about him. Something like "He didn't like me training to be a spectre because he didn't like them being able to do anything."

I wouldn't call that an issue, at least not in the context of the discussion.  It is not uncommon for one's father to have an influence on one's decision and be vocal about his opinions regarding what his son (garrus) should do with his life.




I think his words were

No offence Shepard but he wouldn't have liked you.  (I'm not as sure of the rest)  He didn't like the idea of anyone being above the law.

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 12:09

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Kudara wrote...
I am surprised that no one wants to speculate on how things might have gone differently if the humans in mass effect had met the asari first. :)

I don't remember the issue being raised.  Go ahead and speculate.  My mind is a little blank right now, so give me something to work with.:D

Modifié par JohnnyDollar, 21 avril 2010 - 12:09 .

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 12:12

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LiquidGrape wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

I hope I didn't scare off LiquidGrape.


Oh, you didn't.
I was just on my way back in here.

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Only not that brazenly.


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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 12:14

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

DOYOURLABS wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

DOYOURLABS wrote...

Wait now that I think of it... isn't Jacob's story REALLY similar to Garrus's?
They both wanted to make a difference
They both got sick of "red tape"
They both left an organization to make a difference (Garrus left C-Sec to join you, and Jacob left the alliance and joined cerberus)
They both started a group to fight crime (Garrus and his Omega squad and Jacob being a corsair)



But does Garrus have daddy-issues?    Most teammates do, in some form or another.

Actually he does. In ME1 he complains about him. Something like "He didn't like me training to be a spectre because he didn't like them being able to do anything."

I wouldn't call that an issue, at least not in the context of the discussion.  It is not uncommon for one's father to have an influence on one's decision and be vocal about his opinions regarding what his son (garrus) should do with his life.



They are definitely not as bad as Jacob's problems, but when I played ME1 I thought Garrus was aggravated by his father because he mentioned it alot.

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 12:33

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Umm, Ive had too many margaritas to form many coherent thoughts, but I was making a joke about the asari not being able to get the human ship to stop following them around.

Edit: and something about blue skinned sexy aliens from outer space

Modifié par Kudara, 21 avril 2010 - 12:33 .

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 12:37

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I figure if humans ran into the Asari first, it would be a mixture of fear, paranoia, delusions, denial, acceptance, curiousity, lust and infatuation with them ;)

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 12:47

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7Makaveli wrote...

I figure if humans ran into the Asari first, it would be a mixture of fear, paranoia, delusions, denial, acceptance, curiousity, lust and infatuation with them ;)


Dude it may just be because im super baked right now but i think if the humans met the asari first every human male in their 20's would just want to start ****ing the asari.Posted Image

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 12:49

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BlackMetal wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

I figure if humans ran into the Asari first, it would be a mixture of fear, paranoia, delusions, denial, acceptance, curiousity, lust and infatuation with them ;)


Dude it may just be because im super baked right now but i think if the humans met the asari first every human male in their 20's would just want to start ****ing the asari.Posted Image


:ph34r:

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Ahhh, nothin like Asari sexism...good fun haha

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 12:50

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The Asari would follow the humans through the Mass Relay, follow them to Earth, then proceed to breed the human race out of existence by having incredible amounts of Asari daughters with us.

Bad End.

I'm joking.

I think things would have been mostly the same, except that the Asari would have exercised their diplomatic abilities in communicating with the humans, instead of just firing first, as the Turians did, and starting a war.

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 12:52

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7Makaveli wrote...

Ahhh, nothin like Asari sexism...good fun haha


It's funny to think that the Asari would probably give you a weird look at ascribing that word , "sexism", to them, or in thinking that it could be ascribed to them in the first place...

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 12:54

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yorkj86 wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

Ahhh, nothin like Asari sexism...good fun haha


It's funny to think that the Asari would probably give you a weird look at ascribing that word , "sexism", to them, or in thinking that it could be ascribed to them in the first place...


Yea I felt that wasn't the appropriate word. I guess in this case it is racism, dah well.

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 12:55

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Turian counciler: The humans will feel the wrath of the council and war.

Asari counciler: *realizes that Asari look like hot human females and eyeballs all of those humans that are ripe for the pickens to facilitate Asari viability*

No counciler, we will resolve this peacfully!

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 12:58

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yorkj86 wrote...

The Asari would follow the humans through the Mass Relay, follow them to Earth, then proceed to breed the human race out of existence by having incredible amounts of Asari daughters with us.

Bad End.

I'm joking.

I think things would have been mostly the same, except that the Asari would have exercised their diplomatic abilities in communicating with the humans, instead of just firing first, as the Turians did, and starting a war.


I see, all im saying is if i were say a character in the mass effect universe and we made contact with the asari, human chicks wouldn't have a chance you know.

Because i mean asari are hot and can kill you with their mind.....****ing epic!Posted Image

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 01:01

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I think like all things eventually Humans will get too possessive with the aesthetically flawless Asari and some kind of civil war would break out, maybe even between male and female genders to decide who the Asari are truly meant to mate with.



0__0 whoa that was unnecessarily melodramatic

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 01:01

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Yeah but you forget the physical aspect that the human females give. IMO human males will eventually overwhelmingly stay with the human females once it is established and well kown in society that there is no copulation with the Asari.

Modifié par JohnnyDollar, 21 avril 2010 - 01:04 .

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

Yeah but you forget the physical aspect that the human females give. IMO human males will eventually overwhelmingly stay with the human females once they realize there is no copulation with the Asari.


I think that's an oversimplification, and your statements discount the emotional connection present with the mind-joining between an Asari and her partner.  It sounds like you're saying that a man or woman whose spouse is sterile cannot truly love him/her...?  It sounds like you're saying that anyone who takes an Asari as his/her partner is a deviant...?  Or am I reading you incorrectly?

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yorkj86 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Yeah but you forget the physical aspect that the human females give. IMO human males will eventually overwhelmingly stay with the human females once they realize there is no copulation with the Asari.

I think that's an oversimplification, and your statements discount the emotional connection present with the mind-joining between an Asari and her partner.  It sounds like you're saying that a man or woman whose spouse is sterile cannot truly love him/her...?  It sounds like you're saying that anyone who takes an Asari as his/her partner is a deviant...?  Or am I reading you incorrectly?

Your reading me incorrectly I think.  I am speaking about the majority of humanity, not every human.

How do humans reproduce?  Do human males have a sex drive?  How did we get here?

We still have primitive traits that drive us.  Some aspects of human instincts have changed very little over 1000's of years.

My guess is that the Asari mind meld has to be more pleasurable than a physical ejacualtion to drive the human males away from the human females in mass.

Modifié par JohnnyDollar, 21 avril 2010 - 01:17 .

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Yeah but you forget the physical aspect that the human females give. IMO human males will eventually overwhelmingly stay with the human females once they realize there is no copulation with the Asari.

I think that's an oversimplification, and your statements discount the emotional connection present with the mind-joining between an Asari and her partner.  It sounds like you're saying that a man or woman whose spouse is sterile cannot truly love him/her...?  It sounds like you're saying that anyone who takes an Asari as his/her partner is a deviant...?  Or am I reading you incorrectly?

Your reading me incorrectly I think.  I am speaking about the majority of humanity, not every human.

How do humans reproduce?  Do human males have a sex drive?  How did we get here?

We still have primitive traits that drive us.  Some aspects of human instincts have changed very little over 1000's of years.

My guess is that the Asari mind meld has to be more pleasurable than a physical ejacualtion to drive the human males away from the human females in mass.


Well, uh.   I don't know how to respond without sounding dirty about it, so I'll just be blunt.   You're assuming that humans can't ejaculate/orgasm when stimulated sufficiently by an Asari.

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Posté 21 avril 2010 - 01:18

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yorkj86 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Yeah but you forget the physical aspect that the human females give. IMO human males will eventually overwhelmingly stay with the human females once they realize there is no copulation with the Asari.

I think that's an oversimplification, and your statements discount the emotional connection present with the mind-joining between an Asari and her partner.  It sounds like you're saying that a man or woman whose spouse is sterile cannot truly love him/her...?  It sounds like you're saying that anyone who takes an Asari as his/her partner is a deviant...?  Or am I reading you incorrectly?

Your reading me incorrectly I think.  I am speaking about the majority of humanity, not every human.

How do humans reproduce?  Do human males have a sex drive?  How did we get here?

We still have primitive traits that drive us.  Some aspects of human instincts have changed very little over 1000's of years.

My guess is that the Asari mind meld has to be more pleasurable than a physical ejacualtion to drive the human males away from the human females in mass.

Well, uh.   I don't know how to respond without sounding dirty about it, so I'll just be blunt.   You're assuming that humans can't ejaculate/orgasm when stimulated sufficiently by an Asari.

Correct, and you are assuming they can?

Edit:  As far as copulation goes, that is superior IMO to mind meld.

Modifié par JohnnyDollar, 21 avril 2010 - 01:25 .

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