Couldn't think of a better word. But that was the way I felt when I did it. I felt so bad I reloaded the save and did it differently.yorkj86 wrote...
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I think Samara is the best romance, because she makes you feel like the relationship is real. I also love how you realize Sheperd is a sleaze if you push for sex
Using that word, "sleaze", in this thread, makes some people feel bad for having pursued the romance options with Samara.
Samara thread
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Posté 22 avril 2010 - 01:22
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I assumed that shepard wasn't asking for sex if you walk towards her in the end, but of something, some kind of return of love, but not sure exactly what. This is one of the reasons I think Samara refused, she didn't think Shepard was sure of what he was getting into, and he didn't exude the kind of confidence she needed to believe that it could work. Saying "but Samara, it can work.." isn't enough for her.
EDIT: I honestly think I would have faired better in that situation than Shepard
EDIT: I honestly think I would have faired better in that situation than Shepard
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7Makaveli wrote...
I assumed that shepard wasn't asking for sex if you walk towards her in the end, but of something, some kind of return of love, but not sure exactly what. This is one of the reasons I think Samara refused, she didn't think Shepard was sure of what he was getting into, and he didn't exude the kind of confidence she needed to believe that it could work. Saying "but Samara, it can work.." isn't enough for her.
EDIT: I honestly think I would have faired better in that situation than Shepard
Shepard gets in to lots of those "you don't know what you're getting in to" situations, and he's turned out well most of the time. If they spend more time together, in each other's company (ME3), it might work as the plot progresses. Some people don't live up to their reputation, and some people do. Samara's starting to see that the latter is true.
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Posté 22 avril 2010 - 01:28
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Almost makes me wish that in ME3, BW will give us a chance to pick from a few limited characteristics or something, just to make Shepard more unique. So he/she will react a little differently to a situation than a Shepard with a different trait would.
However, all of that is "too much work" and they won't bother.
"Fanfiction - making Shepard's look smart since 2185!"
However, all of that is "too much work" and they won't bother.
"Fanfiction - making Shepard's look smart since 2185!"
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Posté 22 avril 2010 - 01:30
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Is there any good samara/shepard fan fictions? I am curious.
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Posté 22 avril 2010 - 01:34
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AshiraShepard wrote...
Almost makes me wish that in ME3, BW will give us a chance to pick from a few limited characteristics or something, just to make Shepard more unique. So he/she will react a little differently to a situation than a Shepard with a different trait would.
However, all of that is "too much work" and they won't bother.
"Fanfiction - making Shepard's look smart since 2185!"
It'd be interesting, for sure. Having to select, say, 8 party members from a pool of 16 or some such. If anything, it'd give the game greater replayability, and I'd much prefer it to having all 16 available from the onset.
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yorkj86 wrote...
7Makaveli wrote...
I assumed that shepard wasn't asking for sex if you walk towards her in the end, but of something, some kind of return of love, but not sure exactly what. This is one of the reasons I think Samara refused, she didn't think Shepard was sure of what he was getting into, and he didn't exude the kind of confidence she needed to believe that it could work. Saying "but Samara, it can work.." isn't enough for her.
EDIT: I honestly think I would have faired better in that situation than Shepard
Shepard gets in to lots of those "you don't know what you're getting in to" situations, and he's turned out well most of the time. If they spend more time together, in each other's company (ME3), it might work as the plot progresses. Some people don't live up to their reputation, and some people do. Samara's starting to see that the latter is true.
I almost wish we get Jack's opening romance line in ME3:
"So Shepard, I've been thinking, we've seen alot together, and you're always coming around. You got feelings for me?"
But obviously in a more SAMARA-eque way and very non-suggestive lol. Shepard is opportunistic, and revels when he sees the slightest bit of crack. Samara saying something like this, would have him all over her lol
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This gives me a pretty good idea of what you mean.yorkj86 wrote...
The Jackolytes claim that when Jack is talking to Shepard about Murtock, the camera focuses on her and circles her. Shepard is pushing, and Jack feels trapped, but she doesn't push back, which is something remarkable, knowing Jack.
I can see how the camera work and direction would greatly influence a possible romance or lack of one.
Incidentally, I have wondered if a company such as Bioware for example, brings in a specialist so to speak, that basically directs the game as a director would direct a movie. Someone that has knowledge of programming, but is more trained and skilled at directing.
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DOYOURLABS wrote...
Is there any good samara/shepard fan fictions? I am curious.
The filter search for Samara fanfiction, the majority are pairings; most are well written
http://www.fanfictio.../37724/0/0/0/1/
*hints*
Who Saves the Hero
^thatoneisawesome
Broken, Unhappy and Faroff Things
Reprieve
Black Angel
Broken Warriors
*ahem*
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If you take Morinth, she talks a little about Samara. She mentions that one of the things that Samara tried to teach her children was the value of self denial. That she did her duty with precision and care, but no love. Of course this is coming from a bitter child, but it does somewhat correlate to Samara's discipline and self denial that is apparent to Shepard.7Makaveli wrote...
I assumed that shepard wasn't asking for sex if you walk towards her in the end, but of something, some kind of return of love, but not sure exactly what. This is one of the reasons I think Samara refused, she didn't think Shepard was sure of what he was getting into, and he didn't exude the kind of confidence she needed to believe that it could work. Saying "but Samara, it can work.." isn't enough for her.
EDIT: I honestly think I would have faired better in that situation than Shepard
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Posté 22 avril 2010 - 01:47
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*takes anything Morinth says with a grain of salt, before flicking the aforementioned grain of salt away*
But of course, that mentality does not help with writing her...*mutters*
I can see how that might loop back to what happened with Shepard though =P
But of course, that mentality does not help with writing her...*mutters*
I can see how that might loop back to what happened with Shepard though =P
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Posté 22 avril 2010 - 01:49
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I am just trying to be objective.
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Posté 22 avril 2010 - 01:50
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Sorry If I sounded snippy ^^; Not my intention. I was actually agreeing with your point there
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Posté 22 avril 2010 - 01:53
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I just read 2 stories, and they were pretty good. i am reading Who saves the hero now because someone discreetly hinted itAshiraShepard wrote...
DOYOURLABS wrote...
Is there any good samara/shepard fan fictions? I am curious.
The filter search for Samara fanfiction, the majority are pairings; most are well written
http://www.fanfictio.../37724/0/0/0/1/
*hints*
Who Saves the Hero
^thatoneisawesome
Broken, Unhappy and Faroff Things
Reprieve
Black Angel
Broken Warriors
*ahem*
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If you take Morinth, she talks a little about Samara. She mentions that one of the things that Samara tried to teach her children was the value of self denial. That she did her duty with precision and care, but no love. Of course this is coming from a bitter child, but it does somewhat correlate to Samara's discipline and self denial that is apparent to Shepard.7Makaveli wrote...
I assumed that shepard wasn't asking for sex if you walk towards her in the end, but of something, some kind of return of love, but not sure exactly what. This is one of the reasons I think Samara refused, she didn't think Shepard was sure of what he was getting into, and he didn't exude the kind of confidence she needed to believe that it could work. Saying "but Samara, it can work.." isn't enough for her.
EDIT: I honestly think I would have faired better in that situation than Shepard
I also won't take what Morinth says at face-value. It's possible that Samara was a particulaly reserved and stoic person before she became a Justicar, and her personality simply complemented her new life-style. If Samara wasn't like that before she came a Justicar, however, the things Morinth says wouldn't add up.
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It's ok, I know how you feel about the romance. I don't want you thinking that I am against it. I am not against it as long as it is done in the right way. I think that it can be done the right way in ME3. Especially after considering yorks suggestions. It shouldn't be done in a cheap manner though IMO. Meaning taking shortcuts or just bad directing. Samara deserves nothing less.AshiraShepard wrote...
Sorry If I sounded snippy ^^; Not my intention. I was actually agreeing with your point there
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I was thinking of how much personality changes humans go through in just their 70 years of life span, think of how much redefining Asari's must go through to live nearly a thousand years. The sheer abundance of knowledge and experience probably makes you a kind of shape-shifting personality that is incredibly adaptable to any situation. This ties into Morinth's comments about Samara raising them a certain way. Maybe she did make some mistakes as a mother that she wouldn't make now that she knows what happened.
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I think it is fair to say that Samara sacrifices her own desires or interests. Being a Justicar would certainly deny some desires and interests, but perhaps not to the extent Samara takes it to. Yes? No?yorkj86 wrote...
I also won't take what Morinth says at face-value. It's possible that Samara was a particulaly reserved and stoic person before she became a Justicar, and her personality simply complemented her new life-style. If Samara wasn't like that before she came a Justicar, however, the things Morinth says wouldn't add up.
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I'm somewhat against a "romance" storyline solely because it reminds us that Shepard is, in fact, not the center of the universe, and thusly doesn't always get what he wants. Some things should remain beyond him simply by virtue of "that's how the world works".
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^That is a good point. york?
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@JD
I think The Code is very non-implicit in stating how a Justicar should behave personally. The 5000 sutra's probably focus on all the different situations that one could encounter, but don't really get into things like "one should not lick their fingers after eating...". So Justicars probably extrapolate how they should behave and Samara is probably more on the conservative side on this regard.
I think The Code is very non-implicit in stating how a Justicar should behave personally. The 5000 sutra's probably focus on all the different situations that one could encounter, but don't really get into things like "one should not lick their fingers after eating...". So Justicars probably extrapolate how they should behave and Samara is probably more on the conservative side on this regard.
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This does further give insight about her personal thoughts regarding the value of self denial. Agree or no?7Makaveli wrote...
@JD
I think The Code is very non-implicit in stating how a Justicar should behave personally. The 5000 sutra's probably focus on all the different situations that one could encounter, but don't really get into things like "one should not lick their fingers after eating...". So Justicars probably extrapolate how they should behave and Samara is probably more on the conservative side on this regard.
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JohnnyDollar wrote...
This does further give insight about her personal thoughts regarding the value of self denial. Agree or no?7Makaveli wrote...
@JD
I think The Code is very non-implicit in stating how a Justicar should behave personally. The 5000 sutra's probably focus on all the different situations that one could encounter, but don't really get into things like "one should not lick their fingers after eating...". So Justicars probably extrapolate how they should behave and Samara is probably more on the conservative side on this regard.
Agree, but remember she was a mother first. A lot of her principles on that must have evolved later on.
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I'm somewhat against a "romance" storyline solely because it reminds us that Shepard is, in fact, not the center of the universe, and thusly doesn't always get what he wants. Some things should remain beyond him simply by virtue of "that's how the world works".
I think these are good reasons, but kind of superficial in two ways. First, on a meta-level, it's arbitrary. The reason he shouldn't be able to romance Samara is because he can't have anything he wants. There's something missing here.
Second, it deals with romance as a means of possessing another person, which is a hasty and tasteless(?) oversimplification.
If we can't have a very sublime and subtle romance with Samara, then I would definitely prefer no romance at all. Let her be the one who got away.
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Given that Casey Hudson stated they intended ME3 to be playable as a stand-alone game, it's quite possible that a romance with Samara would take the whole game to develop. Which it would, even for an imported ME2 character (in which case it could be the second chance we're hoping for if the writers get it right).
I kind of expect Shepard will kinda have to "win back" his/her ME1 LI even if he/she "remained faithful" in ME2. A few "import specific" lines would allude to events in ME2. The same can be said of your ME2 LI, who may demand that Shepard "make a choice".
I kind of expect Shepard will kinda have to "win back" his/her ME1 LI even if he/she "remained faithful" in ME2. A few "import specific" lines would allude to events in ME2. The same can be said of your ME2 LI, who may demand that Shepard "make a choice".
