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[this isnt my name]

LiquidGrape wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I feel Samara would be an interesting LI. Lots of dramatic potential there for the story. She's certainly no one-night fling like Jack. But I can see the other point of view as well. She could be the forbidden fruit for Shepard, always out of reach....damn.

Oh this is so ON.



Have at you, fiend!

We all know how this vid ends, run while you can.

[The_KFD_Case]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

prizm123 wrote...
Samara is fascinating, and should not ever be a LI. she is thoughtful, righteous, and intelligent. a good person and friend for Shepard to talk to to gain perspective and a trusted confidante

I disagree. It's precisely because Samara is so intelligent, sophisticated, deadly, wise, experienced, not without compassion despite a rock hard self-discipline, has a deeply tragic personal history, and let's not forget looks to die for that she is such a tempting love interest in my opinion. She strikes me as easily being Shepard's equal though with less people skills provided one opts for the Paragon path for Shepard.

You wouldn't feel that there would be a contradiction to her character if the was an LI in ME3 without either retconning it or something similar?

In light of the ability to either have Samara say she is flattered but that it won't happen, or the alternative version (both with a Paragon leaning Shepard) where Shepard and she almost kiss only to stop a few inches short and then Samara says, "In another time...Another life"? No. I don't think it would be out of character in light of the personal stories Samara is willing to share with Shepard and the insight it grants us in to her deep, multi-layered character. While the Code does come first for her, the two scenes described above - and especially the second one - draw attention to the fact that while Samara does possess incredible self-discipline she is not without feelings, desires, tempations, etc. If presented with a Shepard that strikes her as honourable, decent, strong, genuine, and whom is interested in more than a one night stand, I do not consider it completely beyond the realms of possibility that she and Shepard could come together in more than just a platonic sense.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 25 avril 2010 - 06:33 .

[The_KFD_Case]

slimgrin wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...
She's certainly no one-night fling like Jack.

Oh, no you di'int.  *Z-snaps*

Romance Jack as a renegade and tell me that isn't just a booty call. Sorry, Jack kinda annoys me. I think she needs to grow up. *flinches*

I concur, however if you bear with Jack and give her the time and support she has never been accustomed to receiving from someone before, she may surprise you. If you google Jack's romance scene it may alter your perspective. Personally I consider it one of the best executed romance scenes in ME2 and found it quite moving.

[The_KFD_Case]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
Such a child would not become like her previous three daughters as their genetic condition only arises from Asari-with-Asari couplings.

Are you sure about this?  I thought her condition relating to being a pure blood precluded whoever she mated with in concern to her bearing a child as an Ardat Yakshi.

As I understand it the ardat yakshi condition is only one that arises when a "pureblood" mating takes places between two Asari and even then it is somewhat rare (the Codex states ca. 1% of the total Asari population). This would also go some way to explain the Asari prejudice against "purebloods".

Unless BioWare states otherwise this is likely as close to "canon" as we are going to get on the matter:

"Samara, a pureblood herself, states that the condition is as old as the
asari species, and that it appears much more frequently in the daughters
of purebloods"


Source: Mass Effect Wiki

[The_KFD_Case]

slimgrin wrote...

Alright. I wasn't trying to be antagonistic. Just being honest here.

That is the beauty of the game, right? So many diff. personalities. Some are bound to, um..chafe.

I will say Jack is quite beautiful. I've seen nearly all the other models for this game. Anyone know the model for her?

Agreed. Personally I think Jack has the prettiest feminine face in ME2. Her features remind me of Keira Knightley's, though I do not know if that is whom her features are based off of.

[Mondo47]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Alright. I wasn't trying to be antagonistic. Just being honest here.

That is the beauty of the game, right? So many diff. personalities. Some are bound to, um..chafe.

I will say Jack is quite beautiful. I've seen nearly all the other models for this game. Anyone know the model for her?

That is the good thing about the game.  There seems to be a little something there for everyone.  Jack grew on me like Samara did.  IMO these two characters have more depth than the rest.  We all have different taste of course.

I am sure Mondo knows who Jack's model is if she has one.

Far as I know she has none - she's a purely digital creation, which probably explains why her facial movements seem to stay on the track so well, while poor Sheploo and Miranda regularly careen into the central reservation and explode on the rails

Modifié par Mondo47, 25 avril 2010 - 06:49 .

[The_KFD_Case]

yorkj86 wrote...

I thought we were all in agreement that discussion of Asari genetics produces nothing but headaches

Doesn't bother me. The brain, like the muscles, is prone to benefit from its version of exercise.

[The_KFD_Case]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

I thought we were all in agreement that discussion of Asari genetics produces nothing but headaches

Doesn't bother me. The brain, like the muscles, is prone to benefit from its version of exercise.

You probably haven't read through some of the discussions that we have had about the Asari in this thread concerning genetics, biology, reproduction, etc.

Know matter how much we speculate, we still don't have enough imformation, and it all basically turns out to be bs and we wind up right back where we started at.

Nope, but I have been through four threads joined to form the super thread that was the great, freedom-loving Tali'Zorah thread which has now become a quasi police state. The joys of discussing DNA chirality, what attributes quarians may or may not have...and whether or not humans and quarians are able to produce offspring together.....I'll leave that one to your own imagination.

Suffice to say that I enjoy each of the ME2 party members with the exception of Kasumi since I haven't coughed up the money to purchase that bit of DLC (it strikes me as superfluous coming this late after the main release and offers little other than yet another party member in an already large party; she should have been included from the start at no additional charge IMO).

I would be thrilled to see Samara return as an active, recruitable party member in ME3 and if BioWare would be so good as to make her a fully pursuable love interest, well then that would be the icing on top.

[BlackMetal]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

I thought we were all in agreement that discussion of Asari genetics produces nothing but headaches

Doesn't bother me. The brain, like the muscles, is prone to benefit from its version of exercise.

You probably haven't read through some of the discussions that we have had about the Asari in this thread concerning genetics, biology, reproduction, etc.

Know matter how much we speculate, we still don't have enough imformation, and it all basically turns out to be bs and we wind up right back where we started at.

Yeah dude the discussions never get anywhere and, especially if your stoned they just make your brain hurt.

[The_KFD_Case]

yorkj86 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

I thought we were all in agreement that discussion of Asari genetics produces nothing but headaches

Doesn't bother me. The brain, like the muscles, is prone to benefit from its version of exercise.

Exercising the brain about Asari genetics amounts to talking up an Ardat-Yakshi.  No good can come of it.

The mess of lore Bioware has gotten itself in to regarding the finer points of the biology of an alien species is repeated elsewhere.  Their retcon of why the Quarians wear their enviro-suits, and why, for some reason, they wear them on their clean ships, just makes people scratch their heads.  And don't even get me started on them turning Quarian immune-system troubles in to an allergic reaction, instead of an immuno-deficiency...

Aye, I'm intimately familiar  with how many of those discussions have panned out. Also, they shot themselves in the foot (no pun intended)  in regards to suddenly reneighing on their already well established firearms mechanics from ME1 by suddenly throwing in a heatsink based system in ME2. Either system works in terms of actual game play, yet to me it comes across as a stretch trying to justify it within sci-fi science after ME1's ground work.

[The_KFD_Case]

BlackMetal wrote...

Yeah dude the discussions never get anywhere and, especially if your stoned they just make your brain hurt.

That's when you know it's getting good though!

[BlackMetal]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

BlackMetal wrote...

Yeah dude the discussions never get anywhere and, especially if your stoned they just make your brain hurt.

That's when you know it's getting good though!

Lol that is true, and i do enjoy the discussions but we have very limited data on it so we can't be very productive.

[The_KFD_Case]

BlackMetal wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

BlackMetal wrote...

Yeah dude the discussions never get anywhere and, especially if your stoned they just make your brain hurt.

That's when you know it's getting good though!

Lol that is true, and i do enjoy the discussions but we have very limited data on it so we can't be very productive.

Fair enough.

[The_KFD_Case]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
Nope, but I have been through four threads joined to form the super thread that was the great, freedom-loving Tali'Zorah thread which has now become a quasi police state.

Because it's gotten out of hand and everyone is on their toes in the thread you mean?

No. I meant exactly what I typed previously.