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[adriano_c]

Not a fan of that picture. At all.

[Flamewielder]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...
To me, the only thing this picture has is its sex appeal.   If it wasn't for the clothing, I might not even know that the artist is depicting Samara there.  Maybe it's just the angle, but Samara has a very strong jaw, and I can't see it in that picture.

I agree that it is sex appeal, but nearly all of the other ones that I have come across have hardly any appeal(not just sex appeal) to them at all.  There just is not much of what I would consider very appealing fanart of her IMO.  This one obviously does not accurately depict Samara's features and contours.

The we might as well toss out anything by Picasso or Salvador Dali, guys... Art is a depiction of a subject as seen by the artist, not a photography. You can like it, or not, but it doesn't take away it's artistic value.

I rather like it myself, and not because of sex appeal but because of the eyes. You could argue that from this angle, a strong jaw may not be as apparent...

[Mondo47]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...
To me, the only thing this picture has is its sex appeal.   If it wasn't for the clothing, I might not even know that the artist is depicting Samara there.  Maybe it's just the angle, but Samara has a very strong jaw, and I can't see it in that picture.

I agree that it is sex appeal, but nearly all of the other ones that I have come across have hardly any appeal(not just sex appeal) to them at all.  There just is not much of what I would consider very appealing fanart of her IMO.  This one obviously does not accurately depict Samara's features and contours.

Think it has more to do with the artist having an obvious 'style' to their work. I quite like it in all honesty... it's got flair. The artist has obviously captured Samara in their own eyes... all any artist can do with a subject, really. And thankfully, that means that we're all free to judge art and its merits for ourselves.

[Siansonea]

I still the best 'art' depicting Samara is the in-game digital character itself. But then I'm a big fan of photorealism. If there was an even higher-resolution rendering with ray-tracing, I would probably like such artwork best of all.

[The_KFD_Case]

Flamewielder wrote...

On an unrelated topic, I was thinking it would be nice for the Cerberus logo to be replaced by the familiar Paragon/Renegade icon in ME3. Both logos are nice-looking, non-species oriented, and could reflect Shepard's chosen path on the Normandy, as well as crew uniforms, squaddies armor, vehicles, etc... Create an "esprit-de-corps", a sense of belonging on the same team in spite of personal differences. Squaddies could even joke about it (I imagine Samara and Jack would have an interesting take on it, as both were pretty much loners prior to joining Shepard).

I like your idea, however it may not work without some hiccups since some of the crew members have stronger leanings towards Paragon or Renegade mentalities than others. Serving under the Alliance, Cerberus, or some other unit symbol that doesn't expressly denote whether one is more Paragon or Renegade is more believable to implement. A Paragon and a Renegade may have different approaches as to how to successfully complete a mission, yet they may still share the same mission even though they would not share the same symbol in regards to their modus operandi.

[The_KFD_Case]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

There is something about female vampires that I find seductive.  Is it just me?

Sometimes. The presumably lifeless hand next to her and the blood splattered stains on her may not be a particularly conducive means to evoke my romantic side....

[The_KFD_Case]

yorkj86 wrote...

Those pictures are beautiful, but I just can't bring myself to like her black suit.   It makes Samara look too much like Morinth.

Agreed. I find Samara's original red and gold outfit fits better with my personal perception of her as an exotic "warrior monk". While I like black as a colour in a great many things, it just becomes a bit too dreary on this occasion IMO.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 27 avril 2010 - 11:24 .

[The_KFD_Case]

yorkj86 wrote...

Thankfully, the appreciation of art is entirely relative, and I could discard Piccaso and Salvador Dali as hacks, if I wanted to, and replace their hallowed positions with the artists of the cartoons on Fruit Loop boxes.

You could, though it is possible to measure part of the perceived value of a work of art based upon the technical complexity and/or skill/technique required to create it.

[The_KFD_Case]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

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A little more conducive to evoke romantic feelings?  Or just erotic feelings?  Looks pretty smexy to me.

Maybe more conducive towards lust than romance....I strongly suspect the vampire eyes, apparent fangs and dripping blood would quicken my heart rate but not due to amorous feelings. That said, I do find her quite easy on the eyes.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 27 avril 2010 - 11:33 .

[DOYOURLABS]

I was playing on my 360 today, and I felt like making a change so I killed samara for Morinth. I immediately got the red rings of death. Serves me right.

[DOYOURLABS]

yorkj86 wrote...

DOYOURLABS wrote...

I was playing on my 360 today, and I felt like making a change so I killed samara for Morinth. I immediately got the red rings of death. Serves me right.

It's the universe correcting your mistake.

I've learned my lesson. Can the universe un-kill my xbox? 

[Mondo47]

Sorry, but sexy and vampires are two words that in my book should never the twain meet... our old folklaw monsters all get defanged and sexed up and tuned down they no longer mean anything to anyone other than graveyard-loitering fops in lacy shirts, teenaged girls who like their romances a little creepy (as in age difference creepy), or they get so badly abused that they get turned into Disney characters... Anne Rice, thou hast much to answer for. Vampires, hobbled. Werewolves, muzzled. Zombies, suburban. Ghosts, all need to brush that long hair out of their eyes.

And to think a few hundred years ago hardened sailors would **** themselves at the mention of a mermaid... makes me want to cry, I tell you.

[Flamewielder]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Flamewielder wrote...
On an unrelated topic, I was thinking it would be nice for the Cerberus logo to be replaced by the familiar Paragon/Renegade icon in ME3. Both logos are nice-looking, non-species oriented, and could reflect Shepard's chosen path on the Normandy, as well as crew uniforms, squaddies armor, vehicles, etc... Create an "esprit-de-corps", a sense of belonging on the same team in spite of personal differences. Squaddies could even joke about it (I imagine Samara and Jack would have an interesting take on it, as both were pretty much loners prior to joining Shepard).

I like your idea, however it may not work without some hiccups since some of the crew members have stronger leanings towards Paragon or Renegade mentalities than others. Serving under the Alliance, Cerberus, or some other unit symbol that doesn't expressly denote whether one is more Paragon or Renegade is more believable to implement. A Paragon and a Renegade may have different approaches as to how to successfully complete a mission, yet they may still share the same mission even though they would not share the same symbol in regards to their modus operandi.

You're assuming Shepard and is crew would know what you're talking about... Paragon/Renegade only have meaning to us, the players; the logos only have meaning on the metagaming level. To Shepard and the gang, they're just a cool logo for a privateer ship and its crew...

The reason I stayed away from Alliance and Cerberus logos is because most of Shepard's crew do not belong to either. As most of them say: "I'm working for you, Shepard." Shepard essentially gives TIM the finger at the end of ME2, wether he's paragon or renegade; Shepard's in charge, whether TIM likes it or not.

In the final analysis, Shepard is now the head of a privateer ship and its crew, which happens to be trying to save the galaxy. Shepard no longer has any allegiance (unless you took up the Council's offer of re-instatement, in which case you're neither part of Cerberus OR the Alliance anyway). Stopping the Reapers is his/her personal cause, which other organizations can help or hinder.

[The_KFD_Case]

Mondo47 wrote...

And to think a few hundred years ago hardened sailors would **** themselves at the mention of a mermaid... makes me want to cry, I tell you.

Oh I don't know. At least these days it's possible to have women onboard a ship without every departure being greeted by sailors' superstitious cries of women bringing bad luck to the ship.

[The_KFD_Case]

Flamewielder wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Flamewielder wrote...
On an unrelated topic, I was thinking it would be nice for the Cerberus logo to be replaced by the familiar Paragon/Renegade icon in ME3. Both logos are nice-looking, non-species oriented, and could reflect Shepard's chosen path on the Normandy, as well as crew uniforms, squaddies armor, vehicles, etc... Create an "esprit-de-corps", a sense of belonging on the same team in spite of personal differences. Squaddies could even joke about it (I imagine Samara and Jack would have an interesting take on it, as both were pretty much loners prior to joining Shepard).

I like your idea, however it may not work without some hiccups since some of the crew members have stronger leanings towards Paragon or Renegade mentalities than others. Serving under the Alliance, Cerberus, or some other unit symbol that doesn't expressly denote whether one is more Paragon or Renegade is more believable to implement. A Paragon and a Renegade may have different approaches as to how to successfully complete a mission, yet they may still share the same mission even though they would not share the same symbol in regards to their modus operandi.

You're assuming Shepard and is crew would know what you're talking about... Paragon/Renegade only have meaning to us, the players; the logos only have meaning on the metagaming level. To Shepard and the gang, they're just a cool logo for a privateer ship and its crew...

The reason I stayed away from Alliance and Cerberus logos is because most of Shepard's crew do not belong to either. As most of them say: "I'm working for you, Shepard." Shepard essentially gives TIM the finger at the end of ME2, wether he's paragon or renegade; Shepard's in charge, whether TIM likes it or not.

In the final analysis, Shepard is now the head of a privateer ship and its crew, which happens to be trying to save the galaxy. Shepard no longer has any allegiance (unless you took up the Council's offer of re-instatement, in which case you're neither part of Cerberus OR the Alliance anyway). Stopping the Reapers is his/her personal cause, which other organizations can help or hinder.

Irrelevant. If the Paragon and Renegade symbols only have meaning to us (i.e. the players) then they would have no meaning to the in-game characters and thus are unlikely to be used in place of symbols that are recognized in-game (i.e. Alliance and Cerberus symbols).

Furthermore, if by your argument most of the crew are working for Shepard then they aren't necessarily one or the other, and thus why even use either of the Paragon or Renegade symbols?