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[BlackMetal]

7Makaveli wrote...

Something tells me Samara will smile more in the next game

For a non-renegade Shepard that is, from the looks of it she might not even show for a Renegade. But I have reached a head-scratching point with Samara. ME writing has tendency to shoot itself in the foot, and I just feel there is too many angles they have to write around for Samara to show up in ME3, or to even bother writing her at all.

1. She can die in either her loyalty mission, or the suicide mission. If they feel too many may have killed her off, they might not want to invest too many resources.

2. If you've renegaded, she will try to kill you if you cross paths again. EDIT: Doesn't make for much of a friendly reunion.

3. The third oath of subsumation is temporary. EDIT: After surviving the mission, there are places she indicated she would want to go to "clean up"

4. She is not a LI, possibly tossing her down a few in the list of characters the writers should prioritize.

5. She is not directly related to the plot i.e Mordin, Miranda. Therefore, not arbitrarily required to complete the game.

Those are a few of the main obstacles. I challenge all ya'll to write around those if you want, give your personal take on how to overcome those points, it could stimulate the activity around here. Some are easier to write around, some are not.

And for good measure, I'll put in points that allow her to return.

1. She promises to come for you if you are Paragon, or just a nice guy.

2. She is wise and realizes the Reaper threat is absolutely the most important task she could undertake.

3. She likes to take on challenges and proving herself.

4. She will not stop fighting or Justicar'ing anytime soon; "When I die, it will not be in bed"

5. We like her.........lots.

#5 is the main reason, she is the best character in  ME IMO.

[BlackMetal]

yorkj86 wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

1. She can die in either her loyalty mission, or the suicide mission. If they feel too many may have killed her off, they might not want to invest too many resources.

Worst reason of all to write a character out of a narrative.  In-game census data shouldn't be taken in to account when writing character's for a narrative.  It's not Samara's fault the players can realize a good and interesting character when they see one.  She should be written in in some capacity, but not excluded entirely.  If I have to make do with only a cameo, then I'll make do with only a cameo.

I agree completely, many of my friends who own the game say she's a boring character mainly because i told them she wasn't romanceable and they said "What the ****? that's retarded."

People are dumb.

[7Makaveli]

yorkj86 wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

1. She can die in either her loyalty mission, or the suicide mission. If they feel too many may have killed her off, they might not want to invest too many resources.

Worst reason of all to write a character out of a narrative.  In-game census data shouldn't be taken in to account when writing character's for a narrative.  It's not Samara's fault the players can realize a good and interesting character when they see one.  She should be written in in some capacity, but not excluded entirely.  If I have to make do with only a cameo, then I'll make do with only a cameo.

Yea, a cameo is a way of writing someone out of a narrative imo lol, specifically with what happened for ME1 squadmates. So that is a worst case scenario type of deal, for me atleast. And it could very likely happen because of that reason. The only thing worse is me going to my private messages inbox and seeing a letter from Samara...

EDIT: basically what I'm saying is, I want Samara to matter in the next game.

Modifié par 7Makaveli, 03 mai 2010 - 02:42 .

[BlackMetal]

yorkj86 wrote...

BlackMetal wrote...

I agree completely, many of my friends who own the game say she's a boring character mainly because i told them she wasn't romanceable and they said "What the ****? that's retarded."

People are dumb.

Sadly, "Can I stick my **** in it?"  is the main reason many people like Bioware's characters nowadays.  It didn't used to be this way...


Get off my lawn.

Everyone just wants to be kirk.

Im actually glad you couldn't do her in ME 2 because that made it so the people in this thread actually appreciate her character.

[7Makaveli]

JohnnyDollar wrote...


So how is everyone doing? I totally neglected the thread today.

Sup JD, I'm just playing devil's advocate and thinking of ways those canniving writers will find to render Samara inconsequential in ME3.

[Shazzammer2]

Hello Samara thread. Just dropping by and showing my support for Samara.

So to show my support, I finished a drawing which has Samara in it.





I know ya'll are head over heels for Samara so next time I'll draw ya guys a little something, something. Anyways, I hope you like.

[7Makaveli]

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Hello Samara thread. Just dropping by and showing my support for Samara.
So to show my support, I finished a drawing which has Samara in it.


I know ya'll are head over heels for Samara so next time I'll draw ya guys a little something, something. Anyways, I hope you like.

Nicely done.

[7Makaveli]

lol wrex gets replaced by his brother right? so imagine morinth picking up the justicar mantle if samara isn't alive in your playthrough for a cameo. haha that would be awkward.

[kelmar6821]

Honestly, I'ld rather that they didn't throw us a bone.

[7Makaveli]

In regard to DLC for Samara, I would be against it for the same reason I am for the rumored Liara/Shadow Broker one. With that one they would basically be saying; we just completely shrunk this character, and now we'll make you pay to see why we did it. I feel if there is any reparations to be made for shrinking Liara's character like that, it should be done front and center in ME3. So I feel a Samara DLC may take away from her character in ME3, it may give them an excuse. If they do find a way to include an expansion that does not do that, then I'd pay to see.

[Lady of the Waters]

yorkj86 wrote...

BlackMetal wrote...

I agree completely, many of my friends who own the game say she's a boring character mainly because i told them she wasn't romanceable and they said "What the ****? that's retarded."

People are dumb.

Sadly, "Can I stick my **** in it?"  is the main reason many people like Bioware's characters nowadays.  It didn't used to be this way...


Get off my lawn.

Ugh. Samara has zero tolerance for horny geek boys.

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[DigitalMaster37]

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