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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 12:36

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If I were going to choose a woman to tell the truth to, then Samara would be a good candidate.

Yay, a fresh page.<_<

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 12:57

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I'm not entirely sure Samara would be upset the information came from the Illusive Man, though. Like I said, she knows little of the Cerberus organization before joining you. Once she joins you and is in the position to learn more, she's bound by the oath she's already given you. Once the suicide mission is done, I imagine Shepard would be right alongside Samara in wanting to kick the Illusive Man's ass. Well, most versions of Shepards that I imagine players having anyway.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 01:08

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Pacifien wrote...

I'm not entirely sure Samara would be upset the information came from the Illusive Man, though. Like I said, she knows little of the Cerberus organization before joining you. Once she joins you and is in the position to learn more, she's bound by the oath she's already given you. Once the suicide mission is done, I imagine Shepard would be right alongside Samara in wanting to kick the Illusive Man's ass. Well, most versions of Shepards that I imagine players having anyway.

I actually wouldn't. The base is a useful tool, and he has lots of intel. I never really thought what he did was that bad. Everything was for "the greater good."

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 01:15

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Pacifien wrote...

I'm not entirely sure Samara would be upset the information came from the Illusive Man, though. Like I said, she knows little of the Cerberus organization before joining you. Once she joins you and is in the position to learn more, she's bound by the oath she's already given you. Once the suicide mission is done, I imagine Shepard would be right alongside Samara in wanting to kick the Illusive Man's ass. Well, most versions of Shepards that I imagine players having anyway.

She was polite with Jacob when she first boarded the ship in the conference room I assume.  Unless it is specifically stated by her or somewhere else,  I would assume that she knows quite a lot about Cerberus.  It would be hard for her not to as long as she has lived, and all of the travels and assignments that she has made in her profession.  Presumably, she has vast amounts of knowledge about the makeup of galactic politics, races,  and various organizations.

As far as Morinth goes, Samara would probably be willing to tax her Code to it's limits to justify tracking her down and killing her.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 01:34

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yorkj86 wrote...
This pleases me.


Image IPB

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 01:40

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Drat, I hate not having my ME2 discs anymore. The game is still on my hard drive, but I can't access it. >:[

Anyway, I think one of the first conversations you can have with Samara, you can ask her about her opinions of Cerberus. She mentions not wanting to come to any conclusions based on the opinions of others. Shepard then questions Samara joining the team when she didn't know much about Cerberus, but Samara gives the golden "I joined you" response.

But even if I got it wrong and she does know more about Cerberus, still think she'd accept information no matter the questionable source. I got the impression that she would have let the Eclipse merc go if she had given Samara the name of the ship, even though it was obvious the merc was into criminal dealings.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 01:51

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Yes, The Illusive Man's selection of a Justicar as a dossier was pretty intriguing. If he knew anything about Justicars (which I'm sure he does) he would know that they all seem to have many things on their plate to deal with, and may have a single specific oath that they are trying to fulfill in the long run. But he's also a man who can use other's whims against them, and probably knew that now that her quarry is out of Asari space Samara will be out for a while as well. He may not have even known about a 3rd Oath, but knew that Shepard being who he/she is had a chance to get her to follow him. I initially thought it was too easy the way you recruit her, and get her to swear that oath, but I believe we resolved that the oath just got us an ally, her loyalty earned us a friend.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 02:00

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Pacifien wrote...
But even if I got it wrong and she does know more about Cerberus, still think she'd accept information no matter the questionable source. I got the impression that she would have let the Eclipse merc go if she had given Samara the name of the ship, even though it was obvious the merc was into criminal dealings.

She would have to go by her instincts and whatever contacts she has concerning questionable sources.  That would be her expertise I would assume though.  Law officers will sift through every source and lead that they have, and investigate it to try to solve their case.

I would assume that she would have kept her word and let the merc live if she would have given up the name of the ship.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 02:01

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7Makaveli wrote...

Yes, The Illusive Man's selection of a Justicar as a dossier was pretty intriguing. If he knew anything about Justicars (which I'm sure he does) he would know that they all seem to have many things on their plate to deal with, and may have a single specific oath that they are trying to fulfill in the long run. But he's also a man who can use other's whims against them, and probably knew that now that her quarry is out of Asari space Samara will be out for a while as well. He may not have even known about a 3rd Oath, but knew that Shepard being who he/she is had a chance to get her to follow him. I initially thought it was too easy the way you recruit her, and get her to swear that oath, but I believe we resolved that the oath just got us an ally, her loyalty earned us a friend.


"I sense the truth in what you say."    That line of hers made me groan.  I'm sure that, by now, Samara is quite adept at being able to tell when people are lying, but that line ripped me right out of the scene.  Just a few more lines of dialogue of Shepard explaining his cause to Samara would have been satisfactory for her.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 02:11

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yorkj86 wrote...

"I sense the truth in what you say."    That line of hers made me groan.  I'm sure that, by now, Samara is quite adept at being able to tell when people are lying, but that line ripped me right out of the scene.  Just a few more lines of dialogue of Shepard explaining his cause to Samara would have been satisfactory for her.


Lol I know! Its like "ARE WE FRIEND OR FOE?" (such a great line by her btw) and then .... "I sense the truth...". I was like huhh? Maybe it was her way of being polite, as in, yea sounds good and I'm flattered you approached me but I got other business. I guess in a way she might not have known how vast a mission she was taking on, and was glad that Shepard was going to scoop her up out of jail by doing her a favor and make her not have to kill a police force. But then the Third Oath, another thing she may have done out of necessity, but I always thought that the third oath could have been something used later as a symbolic gesture of the trust you instill in her.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 02:24

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Hey Johnny, I love your avatar! :) I wish I could go back to the Asari Councilor avatar, she was my avatar on the old ME1 boards.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 03:02

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Siansonea II wrote...

Hey Johnny, I love your avatar! :) I wish I could go back to the Asari Councilor avatar, she was my avatar on the old ME1 boards.

Thanks, I bet my custom avatar is still better than the one on the old boards.:D

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 03:44

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My no romance Shepard is going through his first playthrough. Now I can mock romance Samara (in case I can romance her in ME3).

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 03:45

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Apparently Samara's name backwards is well-liked compared to others'.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 03:48

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NICKjnp wrote...

My no romance Shepard is going through his first playthrough. Now I can mock romance Samara (in case I can romance her in ME3).

I believe this to be a wise choice. Just in case. coughIHopecough *crosses fingers*

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 03:53

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AKFTF wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

My no romance Shepard is going through his first playthrough. Now I can mock romance Samara (in case I can romance her in ME3).

I believe this to be a wise choice. Just in case. coughIHopecough *crosses fingers*


Yeah I started it from a ME1 Shepard who didn't romance Ashley or Liara.  It went pretty fast (because I didn't do the mineral resource or different species research missions).

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 03:53

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If Samara is discovered to be an LI in ME3, I'd rerun my "main" Shepard through ME1 and 2 without romancing anyone.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 03:57

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If you have pc, you could just use the save editor and change the flags of your ME2 save. If you didn't want to do the re-run of course.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 03:58

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DirtyVagrant wrote...

If Samara is discovered to be an LI in ME3, I'd rerun my "main" Shepard through ME1 and 2 without romancing anyone.


Yeah... this guy is John Shepard (Shepard number 4).  He is a vanguard, sole survivor, spacer, paragon, saved everyone: council, rachni queen, WREX, feros colonists, Shiala, Ashley.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 03:59

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

If you have pc, you could just use the save editor and change the flags of your ME2 save. If you didn't want to do the re-run of course.


It's possible to do that with the 360 version too I guess... but I'm not skilled enough to change all that stuff on a pc and I don't have the equipment to do it.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 04:03

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NICKjnp wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

If you have pc, you could just use the save editor and change the flags of your ME2 save. If you didn't want to do the re-run of course.


It's possible to do that with the 360 version too I guess... but I'm not skilled enough to change all that stuff on a pc and I don't have the equipment to do it.

Can you download a save file and use it on the 360?  If so, that would work too.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 04:09

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AKFTF wrote...

Apparently Samara's name backwards is well-liked compared to others'.


...what?

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 04:11

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DirtyVagrant wrote...

If Samara is discovered to be an LI in ME3, I'd rerun my "main" Shepard through ME1 and 2 without romancing anyone.


Yeah my main would romance her. Sorry Liara.

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 04:15

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yorkj86 wrote...

AKFTF wrote...

Apparently Samara's name backwards is well-liked compared to others'.


...what?


...huh?

Aramas?

Modifié par 7Makaveli, 14 mai 2010 - 04:15 .

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Posté 14 mai 2010 - 04:17

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7Makaveli wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

AKFTF wrote...

Apparently Samara's name backwards is well-liked compared to others'.


...what?


...huh?

Aramas?

Sory, that was random. There's a poll asking people which squadmate's name they like best backwards. Samara was winning last time I checked...Image IPB

Edit: My main Shepard is prepared for a possible Samara romance. If not he shall save the universe as a single man. Image IPB

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