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7Makaveli wrote...

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Who here thinks that ME 3 will pull of the Samara Romance option that will not be cheesy?


*raises hand*

I am quite enamored by this mystical warrior. Her romance should be very intricate and hard to achieve, to give realism. You as a player should have to make certain sacrifices too in order to be with her, it can't just be her having to change her lifestyle. I like how its developed so far, with it being just an acknowledgement of a mutual attraction but Samara not willing to jump in so quickly. It leaves it open just a tad bit for something really special to happen. *crosses fingers*


Yeah i hope this is the case, Samara has the best character of the entire crew.

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I'm thinking that it shouldn't be just how you interact with her that furthers the romance, but also the "big" choices you make throughout the game. If Samara is on an equal plane with Shepard then she should be evaluating the decisions he makes and determine whether his choices are aligned with what she considers her moral code. Many are thinking that she is most likely to move on in ME3 because her oath ends, but I think she could fill a vital role as some kind of "adviser" like we think Mordin can be an engineer aboard the Normandy. Her infinite wisdom can surely be of use to Shepard as he is going to be making massive decisions in the next installment.



This also opens the door to a romance :)

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7Makaveli wrote...

I'm thinking that it shouldn't be just how you interact with her that furthers the romance, but also the "big" choices you make throughout the game. If Samara is on an equal plane with Shepard then she should be evaluating the decisions he makes and determine whether his choices are aligned with what she considers her moral code. Many are thinking that she is most likely to move on in ME3 because her oath ends, but I think she could fill a vital role as some kind of "adviser" like we think Mordin can be an engineer aboard the Normandy. Her infinite wisdom can surely be of use to Shepard as he is going to be making massive decisions in the next installment.

This also opens the door to a romance :)


Yeah, I think you should be able to romance if you were a paragon, but if your a renegade she should try and kill you.

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7Makaveli wrote...

I'm thinking that it shouldn't be just how you interact with her that furthers the romance, but also the "big" choices you make throughout the game. If Samara is on an equal plane with Shepard then she should be evaluating the decisions he makes and determine whether his choices are aligned with what she considers her moral code.


Don't they already have that in a sense with the "almost"-romance? You can't romance her as a Renegade, your alignment is important if you want to open up that sort of dialogue with her. I think they could continue it in that direction in ME3 where your alignment/choices determines whether she will finally let herself be with Shepard.

It'd be great if they did that! But I don't exactly have my hopes up for a Samara romance. :crying:

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I hope that if they make her a LI in ME3 then they have the option of a true LI or of keeping it at the level that samara leaves it in ME2.

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DirtyVagrant wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

I'm thinking that it shouldn't be just how you interact with her that furthers the romance, but also the "big" choices you make throughout the game. If Samara is on an equal plane with Shepard then she should be evaluating the decisions he makes and determine whether his choices are aligned with what she considers her moral code.


Don't they already have that in a sense with the "almost"-romance? You can't romance her as a Renegade, your alignment is important if you want to open up that sort of dialogue with her. I think they could continue it in that direction in ME3 where your alignment/choices determines whether she will finally let herself be with Shepard.

It'd be great if they did that! But I don't exactly have my hopes up for a Samara romance. :crying:


Chances are very slim, but its not entirely impossible, it just has to have a certain amount of class and thought added to it. The essential message the writers are giving at that scene where she "refuses your advances" is that some people can display a remarkable amount of strength in a situation where there emotions can come into play (probably more to it than that). She more than admits that she finds Shepard attractive, feels a special bond, and can be happy with him so what if her circumstances change later on? Can Justicars retire? lol.

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7Makaveli wrote...

DirtyVagrant wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

I'm thinking that it shouldn't be just how you interact with her that furthers the romance, but also the "big" choices you make throughout the game. If Samara is on an equal plane with Shepard then she should be evaluating the decisions he makes and determine whether his choices are aligned with what she considers her moral code.


Don't they already have that in a sense with the "almost"-romance? You can't romance her as a Renegade, your alignment is important if you want to open up that sort of dialogue with her. I think they could continue it in that direction in ME3 where your alignment/choices determines whether she will finally let herself be with Shepard.

It'd be great if they did that! But I don't exactly have my hopes up for a Samara romance. :crying:


Chances are very slim, but its not entirely impossible, it just has to have a certain amount of class and thought added to it. The essential message the writers are giving at that scene where she "refuses your advances" is that some people can display a remarkable amount of strength in a situation where there emotions can come into play (probably more to it than that). She more than admits that she finds Shepard attractive, feels a special bond, and can be happy with him so what if her circumstances change later on? Can Justicars retire? lol.


I think a Justicar retirement involves dying defending innocents. At least for most of them, at least! But I do agree, it does display a great deal of strength on the characters part, showing her dedication in regards to the code. It's what made her great for me.
I think we can all expect a cameo at the minimum for ME2 squadies in ME3, I can't help but wonder how differently she'd react to a Shepard she acknowledged having a connection with.

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Bumping for Samara! I didn't think much of her until I actually played the game and she easily became my favorite new character in the Mass Effect universe. <3

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Yes Samara does seem to attract her followers late in the game.

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Bumping for Samara! I didn't think much of her until I actually played the game and she easily became my favorite new character in the Mass Effect universe. <3


Yeah i ignored her until my second playthrough and the for the next 4 playthroughs i attempted romance because i love the dialogue.

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One thing I don't remember though, is it the Code that specifically bars her from having a relationship or is it that she chooses not to for personal reasons?

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7Makaveli wrote...

One thing I don't remember though, is it the Code that specifically bars her from having a relationship or is it that she chooses not to for personal reasons?


If you ask her about relationships she tells you the code does not forbid romantic envolvement but shes "moved on from that part of her life"

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Yes! It's great to see so much activity lately. All the posts you guys have been contributing are so well thought out and insightful. I feel like a blubbering pipsqueak (is that a word...) in comparison. Well, I was immediately drawn to Samara; she is unlike any other character in the game. I wish there was more dialogue with her...it doesn't feel like enough.

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AKFTF wrote...

Yes! It's great to see so much activity lately. All the posts you guys have been contributing are so well thought out and insightful. I feel like a blubbering pipsqueak (is that a word...) in comparison. Well, I was immediately drawn to Samara; she is unlike any other character in the game. I wish there was more dialogue with her...it doesn't feel like enough.


I just came to show Samara support because im really quite baked and i thought if Samara doesnt get enough support her role in ME 3 might blow so im gonna post as much as i can.

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Its up to us to keep the thread alive!

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kelmar6821 wrote...

Its up to us to keep the thread alive!


Exactly, i want every single person reading this, yes that means you, to post a reply to why they support Samara.

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Its up to us to keep the thread alive!


Yep. I feel many people overlook Samara because she is so calm and collected. She isn't a violent krogan or a foul-mouthed biotic experiment (no offense to supporters of Grunt or Jack, just trying to make a point here). You have to get to know her to appreciate her.

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AKFTF wrote...

kelmar6821 wrote...

Its up to us to keep the thread alive!


Yep. I feel many people overlook Samara because she is so calm and collected. She isn't a violent krogan or a foul-mouthed biotic experiment (no offense to supporters of Grunt or Jack, just trying to make a point here). You have to get to know her to appreciate her.


Yeah and many people didn't give her a fair chance because she cannot be romanced with, they don't understand though that it makes her character better and more believable because it would take her time to except someone in a relationship.

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BlackMetal wrote...

AKFTF wrote...

kelmar6821 wrote...

Its up to us to keep the thread alive!


Yep. I feel many people overlook Samara because she is so calm and collected. She isn't a violent krogan or a foul-mouthed biotic experiment (no offense to supporters of Grunt or Jack, just trying to make a point here). You have to get to know her to appreciate her.


Yeah and many people didn't give her a fair chance because she cannot be romanced with, they don't understand though that it makes her character better and more believable because it would take her time to except someone in a relationship.


I definitely agree. Her refusal portrays her strength and character. She is a one-of-kind woman. I think it would be great if she was a romance option in ME3, but if she wasn't I'd be just as happy having her as a friend and equal.

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Yea i basically joined here to support Samara as a character. I do like most of the other squad but am intrigued by het the most and it seems like we're gonna have to fight for her to be in the next game.



What do u guys think pf her being brought back as some sort of advisor to Shepard? Seems most people would respect her judgment and it would bring alot of credibility to shepard which for some odd reason seems to be lacking.

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AKFTF wrote...

BlackMetal wrote...

AKFTF wrote...

kelmar6821 wrote...

Its up to us to keep the thread alive!


Yep. I feel many people overlook Samara because she is so calm and collected. She isn't a violent krogan or a foul-mouthed biotic experiment (no offense to supporters of Grunt or Jack, just trying to make a point here). You have to get to know her to appreciate her.


Yeah and many people didn't give her a fair chance because she cannot be romanced with, they don't understand though that it makes her character better and more believable because it would take her time to except someone in a relationship.


I definitely agree. Her refusal portrays her strength and character. She is a one-of-kind woman. I think it would be great if she was a romance option in ME3, but if she wasn't I'd be just as happy having her as a friend and equal.


Yeah a romance option for ME 3 would be preferable, but they need to make it a believable relationship, i don't know exactly how they will do it but i have faith in them.

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BlackMetal wrote...

AKFTF wrote...

BlackMetal wrote...

AKFTF wrote...

kelmar6821 wrote...

Its up to us to keep the thread alive!


Yep. I feel many people overlook Samara because she is so calm and collected. She isn't a violent krogan or a foul-mouthed biotic experiment (no offense to supporters of Grunt or Jack, just trying to make a point here). You have to get to know her to appreciate her.


Yeah and many people didn't give her a fair chance because she cannot be romanced with, they don't understand though that it makes her character better and more believable because it would take her time to except someone in a relationship.


I definitely agree. Her refusal portrays her strength and character. She is a one-of-kind woman. I think it would be great if she was a romance option in ME3, but if she wasn't I'd be just as happy having her as a friend and equal.


Yeah a romance option for ME 3 would be preferable, but they need to make it a believable relationship, i don't know exactly how they will do it but i have faith in them.

Yeah, a poorly written romance wouldn't be any good. How do you think the romance should end in the game? Shepard and Samara settle down in the end, or Shepard joins her fight against injustice throughout the galaxy. I'm leaning towards joining her "fight."

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AKFTF wrote...

BlackMetal wrote...

AKFTF wrote...

BlackMetal wrote...

AKFTF wrote...

kelmar6821 wrote...

Its up to us to keep the thread alive!


Yep. I feel many people overlook Samara because she is so calm and collected. She isn't a violent krogan or a foul-mouthed biotic experiment (no offense to supporters of Grunt or Jack, just trying to make a point here). You have to get to know her to appreciate her.


Yeah and many people didn't give her a fair chance because she cannot be romanced with, they don't understand though that it makes her character better and more believable because it would take her time to except someone in a relationship.


I definitely agree. Her refusal portrays her strength and character. She is a one-of-kind woman. I think it would be great if she was a romance option in ME3, but if she wasn't I'd be just as happy having her as a friend and equal.


Yeah a romance option for ME 3 would be preferable, but they need to make it a believable relationship, i don't know exactly how they will do it but i have faith in them.

Yeah, a poorly written romance wouldn't be any good. How do you think the romance should end in the game? Shepard and Samara settle down in the end, or Shepard joins her fight against injustice throughout the galaxy. I'm leaning towards joining her "fight."


I agree i think Shepard is gonna have to sacrifice stuff to be with her

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So, BlackMetal...have you ever chosen to kill her during her loyalty mission? I could never do it; makes me sick to the stomach.

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7Makaveli wrote...

Yea i basically joined here to support Samara as a character. I do like most of the other squad but am intrigued by het the most and it seems like we're gonna have to fight for her to be in the next game.

What do u guys think pf her being brought back as some sort of advisor to Shepard? Seems most people would respect her judgment and it would bring alot of credibility to shepard which for some odd reason seems to be lacking.


Honestly I'm not liking that Idea. I want my 'trained asari killer' back.