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EffectedByTheMasses wrote...

lol so much for Samara thread. Although I did contribute to the off-topicness. but it's cool.
And while we're at it, am I the only one who doesn't think the Reaper threat as we know it is the real threat?


Let us all hope that Samara returns in ME3, and plays a prominent role.
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Now that we are back on topic.

What other threat are talking about?

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I think that the reapers preventing the dark energy problem would make for a good plot twist. Also, why exactly were the collectors collecting humans? why did shepard, a human, experience the prothean beacon? why did the collectors want shepard's body? and why did they build the 'human' reaper? ooooo...

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No matter how off topic we go samara is always the inspiration for it. Whether we're talkin bikini clad warriors or parallel universes.

Samara is chuck norris' mama :D

Here we go, I'll post a screenshot. *cough*
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and as for samara, she's cool. 'Nuff said.

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EffectedByTheMasses wrote...
And while we're at it, am I the only one who doesn't think the Reaper threat as we know it is the real threat?

There's been discussion about them trying to prevent the dark energy problem that seem to be popping up in a few different places. Most notable being Haestrom.

On the flip side, some have theorized they're creating the dark energy problem.

Actually, I think the flip side is the main theory and I'm one of the only people who think the former. But hey, that would be a threat greater than the Reapers.

What did you think of the Geth Weather Device mission?

I assume they were Heretics, but why would the Reapers have the Geth destroy planets with a weather device?  It seems to run counter to their plans.

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7Makaveli wrote...
No matter how off topic we go samara is always the inspiration for it. Whether we're talkin bikini clad warriors or parallel universes.

In a parallel universe where Shepard sports his evil goatee, Samara will meld with you quite willingly. But her outfit will be that of the most conservative nun. All the time.

Ah, another Trek fan.

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Goodwood thinks justicar is a pretty cool guy. eh shoots badguys and doesn't afraid of anything.

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Someone's IQ just dropped 30pts.

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I find it interesting how Morinth dresses rather 'old fashioned' compared to Samara. Not that I'm complaining...

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EffectedByTheMasses wrote...
I think that the reapers preventing the dark energy problem would make for a good plot twist. Also, why exactly were the collectors collecting humans? why did shepard, a human, experience the prothean beacon? why did the collectors want shepard's body? and why did they build the 'human' reaper? ooooo...

Well, collectors collecting humans to build the reaper. EDI theorizes the Reapers use each genocide run as part of their own reproduction. Why they wanted Shepard's body specifically... I had suspected they wanted to eat Shepard's brain. Not really.

I wouldn't say Shepard is unique in being able to experience the prothean beacon as Saren experiences the same thing. Liara seems to indicate Shepard is of strong mind to withstand it, and Shepard is depicted as being exceptional for any individual, not just humans. So Shepard is unique in experiencing the prothean beacon, but because of Shepard's will and not species. Samara strikes me as another individual who could handle the onslaught of images.... she might be the only squadmate in ME2 who I think could.

I know there's been some speculation that the Reapers' interest in Shepard actually has to do with the prothean beacon and the cipher, which would make me think the Reapers are still smarting from their near defeat by prothean interference.

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aaaaaaaanyway, i still think there is more to discuss concernibg samara and morinth, seeing as it is a fairly complex depiction of a good vs evil archetype



I'll bring up some interesting notions another time , for now I will get some shuteye

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EffectedByTheMasses wrote...
I think that the reapers preventing the dark energy problem would make for a good plot twist. Also, why exactly were the collectors collecting humans? why did shepard, a human, experience the prothean beacon? why did the collectors want shepard's body? and why did they build the 'human' reaper? ooooo...

We had Haestrom and what else concerning dark energy problems?

Collectors collected humans for the genetic material for that human Reaper?
Shep experienced the Prothean Beacon because he/she is the protagonist.
The collectors/Harbinger wanted to disect and examine Shep's body.
I assume they built the Human Reaper, because the Reapers are running out of options.

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What did you think of the Geth Weather Device mission?

I assume they were Heretics, but why would the Reapers have the Geth destroy planets with a weather device?  It seems to run counter to their plans.

I honestly have no idea what was going on with that weather device, but I figured it was the Heretics doing considering Legion says there are no other "true" Geth beyond the Veil.

Sort of wondered what the Heretics started to believe once their god was destroyed. Did the Collectors contact them? Did the Reapers decide the Heretics also failed them and abandoned them to their fate just as they abandoned the Collectors in the end?

Maybe the Heretics were claiming the planet as their own, ensuring it was inhabitable to any organics. No, I don't like the idea.

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JohnnyDollar wrote...
We had Haestrom and what else concerning dark energy problems?

The N7 mission where all you do is reactivate the shields to a research station, if you read about why the research station is even there, you'll learn that system is also experiencing the same issue that Haestrom seems to be experiencing.

Gianna Parasini also mentions there have been more cyberattacks on Noveria specifically to access any research dealing with dark energy.

Veetor also mentions dark energy readings from his scans of the Collectors.

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The N7 mission where all you do is
reactivate the shields to a research station, if you read about why the
research station is even there, you'll learn that system is also
experiencing the same issue that Haestrom seems to be experiencing.

Gianna
Parasini also mentions there have been more cyberattacks on Noveria
specifically to access any research dealing with dark energy.

Veetor
also mentions dark energy readings from his scans of the Collectors.

Maybe the Reapers are working on some kind of way to re-enter the Milky Way.  Creating a wormhole?

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JohnnyDollar wrote...
All the renegade decisions that I am aware of from ME1, are the default in ME2.


Wait so wouldn't that mean Morinth would be default, unless my logic fails.

Right, at least that is how they have done it so far.
Wrex killed on Virmire
Coucil abanoded
Rana Thanoptis killed
etc......

That's only to get rid of references that new players wouldn't understand or fully appreciate. For Samara you either save her or Morinth, so it's not the same as wrex, council, etc. I fully expect default Shepard to not be retarded - meaning he won't kill Samara.

I don't totally buy into that.  What difference would it make to a new player if the coucil was left alive or killed?  The player doesn't know any of the squadmates either.  Tali & Garrus both returned.  Anderson and Udina are both there.  The player hugs Liara, and talks to Ash or Kaiden.

I misunderstood this for some reason.  I was reading through these last few pages and realized it.  I guess I was busy at the time, or was one track minded.  I don't know.

So, I understand that they kill them off  in the default to make it more understandable to new players.  I think they also do it to reward loyal ME players with their save imports.

I was confusing this with the overall game being linear for some reason.

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but you can't kill any of the people you mentioned, 'cept ash/kaidan in ME1. I don't follow

Yeah, I was mixed up and thinking of something else for some reason.  So nevermind.

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Pacifien wrote...
It's not so much every renegade decision was picked as the default for ME2 so much as keeping as many references to decisions made in ME1 to a minimum. Having an Asari call out to you on Illium and say she has a message from your friend on Noveria might confuse someone who hadn't played ME1.
So I'd go with Samara as the default survivor, because trying to explain why you have a psychopathic Ardat-Yakshi hanging around would be more confusing than saying you have an Asari who's sworn an oath to fight your foes with you.

I don't buy into that.  I think it is to keep the game from getting too large in size, scope, and cost.  If they are in your save file, you get a cameo. 

Correction, just forget I said that.  I was thinking of something else for some reason.  I am scatter brained tonight for some reason.

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Stars going Nova creates element zero. I don't think whats happening on Haestrom has anything to do with creating problems on the planet, i think that's just a side effect of what their really trying to do which is create a huge amount of element zero.



Why would they need alot of element zero? Creating a mass relay comes to mind. One that links to the relay in dark space.

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Stars going Nova creates element zero. I don't think whats happening on Haestrom has anything to do with creating problems on the planet, i think that's just a side effect of what their really trying to do which is create a huge amount of element zero.

Why would they need alot of element zero? Creating a mass relay comes to mind. One that links to the relay in dark space.

That is a good thought.  I have always thought that another relay may pop up in ME3.

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

Kudara wrote...

Stars going Nova creates element zero. I don't think whats happening on Haestrom has anything to do with creating problems on the planet, i think that's just a side effect of what their really trying to do which is create a huge amount of element zero.

Why would they need alot of element zero? Creating a mass relay comes to mind. One that links to the relay in dark space.

That is a good thought.  I have always thought that another relay may pop up in ME3.

IIRC there are more relays but the council will not allow them to be opened, because they don't want a situation like the rachni wars. I think Haestrom's star will be a weapon against the reapers. Leading them there and keeping them there until it explodes would be a suicide mission though.

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H guys. I will try to post a photo wich is supposed to be in the motivational thread. I tried to post it but i screwed up and for advice. Because i don't want to post two time for a photo at the same thread, here i am. It's about justicars. If it works under this post will be a nice motivational with an advice for all

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Yes! I did it! Sorry guys for the 3 posts but i was desperate.