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[Pacifien]

yorkj86 wrote...
There's something a little fishy there.  To the Justicars, the Code is the law.  Are we sure that the Code is the whole of Asari law?  The cops on Illium seem thrown by Samara's presence.  I interpreted the Code as an extension of Asari law, and perhaps an outdated one.  Doesn't this bring us to Samara's comments about how the Justicars are considered to be holdovers from another time?

I'm basing my opinion of how the Justicar Code works on the reactions of the asari on Illium, actually. Officer Dara seems completely befuddled if Shepard questions her the Justicar Code, unable to understand how someone could even question its veracity. Detective Anaya accepts the evidence Shepard finds on Erinya only because a Justicar vouches for Shepard. Even an asari standing outside the detective police station says every asari fancies being a Justicar at some point in her maidenhood. It would seem the more ancient Justicar Code supercedes the laws of modern asari society, at least in regards to asari themselves.

[7Makaveli]

yorkj86 wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

uh, oh

Do I see a conservative/progressive argument brewing?

I distinctly avoided wording my sentences to avoid that.  I just wanted to be sure that something like the Continuum/Heap Fallacy wasn't being made.

I'm just paranoid, been involved in too many of those.

[7Makaveli]

Pacifien wrote...
every asari fancies being a Justicar at some point in her maidenhood.

Justicars are to Asari what Astronauts are to humans (well not in the Mass Effect universe LOL)

[Pacifien]

7Makaveli wrote...
Justicars are to Asari what Astronauts are to humans (well not in the Mass Effect universe LOL)

My earthborn Shepard totally dreamed about being an astronaut.

[7Makaveli]

did u guys read that fan fic? the one about samara vs. aria. He/She she instigated some lore about a legendary Justicar that took out sentries of Krogan during the Krogan wars. She was actually on her own business but something made her turn against them. I thought it was kinda cool, I wish we were told more legends about Justicars, or one particular one who other Justicars model themselves after. It would add some subtle context to it.

[7Makaveli]

Kudara wrote...

For those interested in reading more Samara FanFiction I came across a new one today.


http://www.fanfictio...A_New_Beginning by Atarian

[7Makaveli]

I'll post the excerpt I'm referring to but you should consider reading all of it:

"You heard me, girl. Now's the time to run." He faced her seriously. "Krogan memory is pretty damn long, Aria. Almost as long as that of you asari. We krogan remember…." He paused, putting his thoughts in order. "We have a story about one justicar—one—from the time of the Krogan Rebellions."



"Yes?" Aria asked. She had turned toward him and was giving him her full attention, hanging on his every word. Patriarch took a moment to relish the sensation of power. Closest I get to actually having power these days. He leaned back against the leather sofa, stretching his feet out in front of him.



"The name that my father told me was Ilea, but I don't know if that's the right one. It was kind of a situation like with Samara earlier, actually: she was on a quest of some kind, don't know what. She'd been ignoring the war entirely until her quest took her outside of asari space. Even then she wouldn't have fought, except that she happened to trip over the lead elements of one of our strike forces along the way, out in the Hourglass Nebula. When she saw us doing what we krogan do best," he added with a twisted smirk, "she stopped long enough to issue a challenge to the krogan general. Rungor Vraen. He laughed in her face. Big mistake." The smirk stretched into something more painful; this story was a little too close to home, now that he thought about it. "That lone justicar managed to single-handedly destroy three whole divisions. The entire Fifth Army was wiped out. It took dropping a moon on top of her to stop her, and even then her body was never found."



Aria raised her hands to cover her face. "It didn't stop her," she said from behind that shield. "We have legends of her too. Ilea left your army behind because her quarry moved on." Aria smiled bitterly. "All our legends ever said about Justicar Ilea was that she left asari space seeking her prey, the Dark Matriarch Thamiris; spent some time outside, and then returned to run her prey to ground. The final battle between them devastated an entire continent, and ended in both their deaths.

the part I found most interesting ^

[Lady of the Waters]

I've never very much liked the whole support thread thing to be honest... I mean sure it's great to have threads for characters you like but I feel as if it is dividing the community. It's like each support thread is it's own seperate clan. The members of the Tali clan (Tali-ban) keep peace with the Miranda clan (Miridians) but neither one dares to roam into the others thread lest all hell break loose. The Ash clan and Kaidan (Kaidanites) clan have long held a pact, but there is still a subtle rivalry among them. Then there is the Liara, Garrus, Samara, Thane and Jack clan... and perhaps even hints of the start of a Shiala clan. The last thing either wants is war.



I dislike that I basically have to "belong" to one of these clans or else I really have no sway on the forums... I have to belong somewhere or else people will not be interested in an in-depth discussion. Is it not possible for a person to like all or none of the squadmembers? It is dividing way the forum way too much IMO and is taking up the campaign quests and storylines forum which I would have thought would be reserved for actual questions about the story...

[7Makaveli]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

What happened to the talk about the Justicar Order and Asari Society? I didn't run everybody off did I?
Maybe there is nothing else to talk about concerning this.

Yea I think you ran everyone off JD, you were being very confrontational imo.














We can certainly discuss this more in depth, but we kind of ended on an "agree to disagree" note.

[7Makaveli]

Lady of the Waters wrote...

I've never very much liked the whole support thread thing to be honest... I mean sure it's great to have threads for characters you like but I feel as if it is dividing the community. It's like each support thread is it's own seperate clan. The members of the Tali clan (Tali-ban) keep peace with the Miranda clan (Miridians) but neither one dares to roam into the others thread lest all hell break loose. The Ash clan and Kaidan (Kaidanites) clan have long held a pact, but there is still a subtle rivalry among them. Then there is the Liara, Garrus, Samara, Thane and Jack clan... and perhaps even hints of the start of a Shiala clan. The last thing either wants is war.

I dislike that I basically have to "belong" to one of these clans or else I really have no sway on the forums... I have to belong somewhere or else people will not be interested in an in-depth discussion. Is it not possible for a person to like all or none of the squadmembers? It is dividing way the forum way too much IMO and is taking up the campaign quests and storylines forum which I would have thought would be reserved for actual questions about the story...

Join our clan would you, we have cookies and milk

Ok listen, this is how its become lol. After a while, general talk about the story is uncommon cause the game gets old. And this game is highly squad oriented, with characters that can appeal strongly to some people. I mean credit to Bioware for reaching different types of people with thier characters. Eventually most talk leads to the characters because there is like 20 missions devoted to them. I agree that the "clans" clog up the chance for in depth discussion on the main story, but on the other hand, it allows people to get more in depth understanding of the characters themselves, which lets face it is what the game is about. And add to that the fact that IMO people go to their threads because they like the people there. So you're kind of limited if you don't find a particular character fascinating to you :/

Modifié par 7Makaveli, 16 mai 2010 - 02:30 .

[7Makaveli]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
What happened to the talk about the Justicar Order and Asari Society? I didn't run everybody off did I?
Maybe there is nothing else to talk about concerning this.

Yea I think you ran everyone off JD, you were being very confrontational imo.



We can certainly discuss this more in depth, but we kind of ended on an "agree to disagree" note.

Confrontational on my part?  Surely your jesting. 

I entered it right in the middele of it.  I guess politics was about to enter the frey? 

I kid, I really don't know what happened. I had to step out for a minute and came back to see nothing much had happened. So I thought we could discuss that fanfic. Did you check out that excerpt I pulled out btw?