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No not at all, that's why i said it sounded ****ed up.Image IPB

I have no idea what we call them. lol


oh I should have read your whole post lol. I don't think we can come up with an alternative to she, hell the latin meaning for "platypus" translates to "duck-like". And we are not callin them she-likes....hmm actually I kinda like the sound of that :D

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I wonder how the Asari came to know
that they could meld with other races. Trial and error? lol. Hey
look, a Salarian, they look....do-able
:D Maybe they didn't meld
with Salarians, who apparently get no pleasure from doing a deed anyway,
and waited for the Turians instead. Or maybe a Turian...I
dunno.

Seriously?  Probably instinct I would think.

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I can see them being called female based on their capability of gestation. This assumes that, while an asari can choose to take the mother or father role in the pairing, all asari are capable of being mothers.

Also, I think discovering they could meld with other aliens would have been a rather easy discovery on their part. All they would need is an attraction, then the desire to reach out to the alien mind.

Now, can asari meld with any species regardless of that species ability to perform calculus? I mean, for all we know, Samara brought the scale itch onto the Normandy...

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I think the explanation is simple.

There are no other sentient life-forms on Thessia, so the Asari didn't have a reason to try to breed with other species.  Then, they came in to contact with the Salarians, who are sentient, and presumably have similar nervous systems.  Some of us think that the Asari are attracted to a person's mind first, and their body second, and that's what caused them to first come in to an intimate situation with a Salarian wherein they attempted mating, and it worked.  It makes sense that it would work anyway, since the Asari don't use gametes, and that's what causes species to be unable to reproduce with other species - difference in gametes and the genetic information contained therein.  Mordin tells us that the Asari produce pheromones that can induce sexual arousal in a person.  That's a bit of science-fiction right there, as pheromones are chemicals on the air, and it's highly unlikely that the chemicals that make an Asari sexually aroused by another Asari are the same that make a Salarian sexually attracted to an Asari.

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Pacifien wrote...
I can see them being called female based on their capability of gestation. This assumes that, while an asari can choose to take the mother or father role in the pairing, all asari are capable of being mothers.

Also, I think discovering they could meld with other aliens would have been a rather easy discovery on their part. All they would need is an attraction, then the desire to reach out to the alien mind.

Now, can asari meld with any species regardless of that species ability to perform calculus? I mean, for all we know, Samara brought the scale itch onto the Normandy...

LOL:O
It's another one of "not enough information and facts" type of scenario again.:sick:

One could assume that they could meld with any creature, but I would like to not assume this myself.^_^

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Pacifien wrote...
 I mean, for all we know, Samara brought the scale itch onto the Normandy...


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I think the explanation is simple.

There are no other sentient life-forms on Thessia, so the Asari didn't have a reason to try to breed with other species.  Then, they came in to contact with the Salarians, who are sentient, and presumably have similar nervous systems.  Some of us think that the Asari are attracted to a person's mind first, and their body second, and that's what caused them to first come in to an intimate situation with a Salarian wherein they attempted mating, and it worked.  It makes sense that it would work anyway, since the Asari don't use gametes, and that's what causes species to be unable to reproduce with other species - difference in gametes and the genetic information contained therein.  Mordin tells us that the Asari produce pheromones that can induce sexual arousal in a person.  That's a bit of science-fiction right there, as pheromones are chemicals on the air, and it's highly unlikely that the chemicals that make an Asari sexually aroused by another Asari are the same that make a Salarian sexually attracted to an Asari.


Actually the best point you made is that they used their mind. They obviously don't have any physical barriers like humans would. So it wasn't matter of can we do it? It was like, they know they had a mind, and formidable ones at that. All it would take is someone open minded enough (PUN intended haha) to try it.

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You guys didn't seriously move the "are asari female" argument here did you? Being in the Jack thread was just one of that discussion's many problems.

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You guys didn't seriously move the "are asari female" argument here did you? Being in the Jack thread was just one of that discussion's many problems.


Both threads have trouble staying bumped.  At times, we'll take what discussion we can get, as long as it's vaguely on-topic.  Asari reproduction makes slightly more sense in the Samara thread than it does in the Jack thread, anyway.

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Zombor wrote...
You guys didn't seriously move the "are asari female" argument here did you? Being in the Jack thread was just one of that discussion's many problems.

I think you're missing the much larger issue of whether or not Samara melded with a varren.

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Zombor wrote...

You guys didn't seriously move the "are asari female" argument here did you? Being in the Jack thread was just one of that discussion's many problems.


the asari female topic barely made a tremor here, I would think it peaked in the Jack thread even though I didn't read it. We're fine discussing the Asari's "first time" with another race :D

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Both threads have trouble staying bumped.  At times, we'll take what discussion we can get, as long as it's vaguely on-topic.  Asari reproduction makes slightly more sense in the Samara thread than it does in the Jack thread, anyway.

I really have no problem with threads not being bumped if the participants really don't have something much to say about the subject of the thread. As for going off-topic, many discussions have the chance of splintering off into a dozen other discussions. The fact that people decided to move a discussion that had become off-topic in one thread to a thread where it was more on-topic is to be commended, I think.

I was going to ask if the OP of the Samara thread was still around, seeing about changing the whole purpose of the thread to be about Samara and the asari in general. Afterall, Samara's duties as a Justicar are somewhat defined by asari culture as a whole, so it's difficult to have a discussion about one without the other.

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Pacifien wrote...

I think you're missing the much larger issue of whether or not Samara melded with a varren.


but Samara said she not interested in sex, why you accuse, why?

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Pacifien wrote...

Zombor wrote...
You guys didn't seriously move the "are asari female" argument here did you? Being in the Jack thread was just one of that discussion's many problems.

I think you're missing the much larger issue of whether or not Samara melded with a varren.

Would you knock it off with the varren stuff?:o:police:

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the asari female topic barely made a tremor here, I would think it peaked in the Jack thread even though I didn't read it. We're fine discussing the Asari's "first time" with another race :D

Plus I totally won that discussion when I said all asari were capable of being mothers, thus they were all female.

Then I totally lost the argument when I brought up how it was the males among seahorses who carried the offspring through gestation, so that couldn't be used as a definitive argument about whether someone could be defined as female.

Then I totally won the argument again when I said if this was the Star Trek universe, Kirk would totally be onto asari, and he's like some manly heterosexual man, so they must be female.

Then I lost the argument because I used Star Trek to argue my point.

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7Makaveli wrote...
but Samara said she not interested in sex, why you accuse, why?

That's just her letting Shepard down gently. Plus some other comments I could write here, but won't in order to spare you more horrible images about the stuff I could have written here about Samara and her choices in life.

But anyway, doesn't matter, think she's pretty much celibate at this point and content to remain that way. Which is good, not everyone needs to be a salarian just to avoid falling into the trap of sexual object.

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Pacifien wrote...

think she's pretty much celibate at this point


u sure about that?

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Pacifien wrote...
think she's pretty much celibate at this point

u sure about that?

That's how I choose to see it, but if you want to entertain the idea that she's not, I can continue about the varren...

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Everyone should just accept that the Asari, being a staple of the more campy genres of science-fiction, are subject to change, mostly immune to scrutiny, and mostly defiant of classification.

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Pacifien wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
think she's pretty much celibate at this point

u sure about that?

That's how I choose to see it, but if you want to entertain the idea that she's not, I can continue about the varren...


no I was only kidding. other than having children, there is less of a need for melding, I don't think Asari would use sex as a form of recreation like the humans do lol. I think it would be easier for them to remain celibate. sure, they are withholding from themselves some great experiences, but I think at some point after the matriarch stage they might be more resistant to it. Maiden and matrons are more like empty pots that need to filled with the reservoir of experiences other beings can offer them (thats just an elaborate way of saying they're horny).

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The asari are certainly very sensual, but whether or not I view them as recreationally sexual probably depends on whether or not melding is an intricate part of the process. If so, I can't see them being that willing to open up their mind so casually, nor would I imagine other species doing the same. But if not, then I can see some asari being rather adventurous in that area. I know the idea of asari being promiscuous is supposed to be a rather untrue stereotype, but I think every stereotype has a certain bit of truth to it.

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oh shoot, actually I think I meant older, more mature Asari wouldn't use sex as recreation. I think younger Asari are more prone to doing the do because its hinted at by Aethyta and all the dancers we see everywhere. Those young Asari are wild :D. Like Liara says, "Adolescents have an unhealthy obsession with them", and you can argue that the dancers don't leave much to the imagination. Regardless, their form of copulation is presented as a more elegant and in some ways superior to any other form of copulation. So we should assume that mainstream Asari would view it as something more sacred.

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The idea of promiscuity concerning the Asari, is probably to increase game sales.:)

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Does anyone know anything about the Asari religion? And what they mean by embrace the godess?

Ironic, i just noticed i typed that while listening to Helleluyah (God is Dead) by Vader. :)

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