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I thought both parents had to be asari. I'm not trying to bring up genetics, but since Samara is a pureblood who carries the gene this implies the gene is recessive (from my limited knowledge of the subject, sorry if I'm wrong). Thus for an asari to be an A-Y they would need 2 copies of the gene which can only happen if both parents are carriers. But, do asari exchange genetic material? If they don't then my explanation doesn't work. I'm starting to get a headache...must not think about asari genetics and reproduction.
Edit: Looks like I was beaten to it. Carry on.

Modifié par AKFTF, 28 mai 2010 - 03:06 .


#7502
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7Makaveli wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

I wonder if Samara would have a hard time being taken seriously as a Matriarch, having given birth to three Ardat-Yakshi. That means she defied the social stigma against mating with another Asari (and good for her).


Ardat-Yakshi come from an Asari Pureblood mothers but that doesn't mean they are purebloods.


Ok, I'm often confused by this so lemme just get this clear. 

PB=PUREBLOOD

PB-NORMAL  ---------  PB-NORMAL
                             I 
                             I
                             I
PB-NORMAL (AY GENE CARRIER) ------------------------------- NORMAL
                                                                               I
                                                                               I
                                                                               I
                                                               ARDAT-YAKSHI

is this how it works?


PB-Pureblood

PB-Normal ------------ PB-Normal
                              |
                              |
                              |
               PB-AY Gene Carrier  ------------------------- ALIEN or PB-Normal
                                                                       |
                                                                       |
                                                                       |
                                                             Ardat-Yakshi

Samara carries the AY gene.  Any children she has (regardless if they are with an Asari or another species) will be Ardat-Yakshi.

Modifié par NICKjnp, 28 mai 2010 - 03:09 .


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where the hell did u learn all that stuff??!

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Holy crap Nick...

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NICKjnp wrote...

PB-Pureblood

PB-Normal ------------ PB-Normal
                              |
                              |
                              |
               PB-AY Gene Carrier  ------------------------- ALIEN or PB-Normal
                                                                       |
                                                                       |
                                                                       |
                                                             Ardat-Yakshi



This is misleading.  The  AY-gene isn't generated by an Asari-Asari pairing, it exists as a gene, passed down.  "1% of Asari are on the AY spectrum."  The AY-gene has a higher chance of being expressed in an Asari-Asari pairing.

Modifié par yorkj86, 28 mai 2010 - 03:10 .


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I think that the AY gene itself is expressed regardless of pureblood parents or not and just by chance. Its the mating of that person with another pureblood that produces AY's

can we leave it at that?

EDIT: some major ones

Modifié par 7Makaveli, 28 mai 2010 - 03:11 .


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Only an Asari that is a pureblood can have an AY child. If the Asari has the gene to make the child than the any child the Asari has will be an AY regardless if they are from a Asari/Asari mating or an Asari/Alien mating.

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7Makaveli wrote...

I think that the AY gene itself is expressed regardless of pureblood parents or not and just by chance. Its the mating of that person with another pureblood that produces AY's

can we leave it at that?

EDIT: some major ones


I'll disagree with what you posted, but I'll agree with abandoning our attempts to make sense of Asari genetics.

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guys shh, we're disrupting Samara's meditations.



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7Makaveli wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

Make a caption with Shepard and Samara in it that says.... I don't need a heavy weapon. I have Samara.


I picture Shepard balancing Samara on his shoulder like he would a shoulder-mounted rocket-launcher.   She is holding her body streamlined and rigid, and she has one of her arms outstretched as she uses Reave. 


hahaha I want this to happen!! =D

Shepard: Wow there's alot of mercs here *looks over* you know the drill Samara

Samara: Shepard, you know I consider this highly innapropriate

Shepard: I know, but still *holds up Third Oath contract* :devil:


I demand that this be drawn! O_O

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i dont even know whats going on. but if it deals with samara then hoo rah!!!

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NICKjnp wrote...

Only an Asari that is a pureblood can have an AY child. If the Asari has the gene to make the child than the any child the Asari has will be an AY regardless if they are from a Asari/Asari mating or an Asari/Alien mating.


"Samara, a pureblood herself, states that the condition is as old as the asari species, and that it appears much more frequently in the daughters of purebloods."  (http://masseffect.wi...ki/Ardat-Yakshi

Notice "much more frequently".   It is still possible for the product of an Asari-Non-Asari mating to produce an AY+ child.

Modifié par yorkj86, 28 mai 2010 - 03:16 .


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yorkj86 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

Only an Asari that is a pureblood can have an AY child. If the Asari has the gene to make the child than the any child the Asari has will be an AY regardless if they are from a Asari/Asari mating or an Asari/Alien mating.


"Samara, a pureblood herself, states that the condition is as old as the asari species, and that it appears much more frequently in the daughters of purebloods."  (http://masseffect.wi...ki/Ardat-Yakshi

Notice "much more frequently".   It is still possible for the product of an Asari-Non-Asari mating to produce an AY+ child.


It seems that way...this then wouldn't give much credence to the pure-blood phobia.

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yorkj86 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

Only an Asari that is a pureblood can have an AY child. If the Asari has the gene to make the child than the any child the Asari has will be an AY regardless if they are from a Asari/Asari mating or an Asari/Alien mating.


"Samara, a pureblood herself, states that the condition is as old as the asari species, and that it appears much more frequently in the daughters of purebloods."  (http://masseffect.wi...ki/Ardat-Yakshi

Notice "much more frequently".   It is still possible for the product of an Asari-Non-Asari mating to produce an AY+ child.


Actually she states the AY gene only appears in Asari purebloods.

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NICKjnp wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

Only an Asari that is a pureblood can have an AY child. If the Asari has the gene to make the child than the any child the Asari has will be an AY regardless if they are from a Asari/Asari mating or an Asari/Alien mating.


"Samara, a pureblood herself, states that the condition is as old as the asari species, and that it appears much more frequently in the daughters of purebloods."  (http://masseffect.wi...ki/Ardat-Yakshi

Notice "much more frequently".   It is still possible for the product of an Asari-Non-Asari mating to produce an AY+ child.


Actually she states the AY gene only appears in Asari purebloods.


Can you quote the exact line, please?

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jlb524 wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

Only an Asari that is a pureblood can have an AY child. If the Asari has the gene to make the child than the any child the Asari has will be an AY regardless if they are from a Asari/Asari mating or an Asari/Alien mating.


"Samara, a pureblood herself, states that the condition is as old as the asari species, and that it appears much more frequently in the daughters of purebloods."  (http://masseffect.wi...ki/Ardat-Yakshi

Notice "much more frequently".   It is still possible for the product of an Asari-Non-Asari mating to produce an AY+ child.


It seems that way...this then wouldn't give much credence to the pure-blood phobia.


Asari genetics don't make sense, and Bioware tried to create something canonical out of nonsense.  It didn't turn out well.

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yorkj86 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

Only an Asari that is a pureblood can have an AY child. If the Asari has the gene to make the child than the any child the Asari has will be an AY regardless if they are from a Asari/Asari mating or an Asari/Alien mating.


"Samara, a pureblood herself, states that the condition is as old as the asari species, and that it appears much more frequently in the daughters of purebloods."  (http://masseffect.wi...ki/Ardat-Yakshi

Notice "much more frequently".   It is still possible for the product of an Asari-Non-Asari mating to produce an AY+ child.


Actually she states the AY gene only appears in Asari purebloods.


Can you quote the exact line, please?


Can't find Samara's normandy dialogue on youtube but when I get to that point in the game next time I will try to remember.  Also... there are asari on Illium who say that purebloods are a waist of genetic potential and that is how they get throwbacks like the Ardat-Yakshi.

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Three cheers for Ashira!  Hip!  Hip!  Hooray!

You should post that in the motivationals section.

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NICKjnp wrote...

Can't find Samara's normandy dialogue on youtube but when I get to that point in the game next time I will try to remember.  Also... there are asari on Illium who say that purebloods are a waist of genetic potential and that is how they get throwbacks like the Ardat-Yakshi.


The Asari are also an extremely advanced, spacefaring species with FTLT who somehow haven't figured out how their own genetics work.  ("****ing Asari genetics, how do they work?")

What exists about Asari genetics that is canon doesn't make sense, and makes the Asari look like idiots for having a stigma against Purebloods.

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yorkj86 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...
Only an Asari that is a pureblood can have an AY child. If the Asari has the gene to make the child than the any child the Asari has will be an AY regardless if they are from a Asari/Asari mating or an Asari/Alien mating.


"Samara, a pureblood herself, states that the condition is as old as the asari species, and that it appears much more frequently in the daughters of purebloods."  (http://masseffect.wi...ki/Ardat-Yakshi

Notice "much more frequently".   It is still possible for the product of an Asari-Non-Asari mating to produce an AY+ child.

It seems that way...this then wouldn't give much credence to the pure-blood phobia.

Asari genetics don't make sense, and Bioware tried to create something canonical out of nonsense.  It didn't turn out well.

It certainly limits us when discussing the Asari.  We have about a paragraph's worth of real useful information and the rest is speculation.

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*Saves*

Also, that's an awrful purty FemShep.

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the look on both their faces is adorably intimidating =D

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Thanks York :3

Edit: I actually had several screenshots with them before picking that one, it fit the best XD

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yorkj86 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

Can't find Samara's normandy dialogue on youtube but when I get to that point in the game next time I will try to remember.  Also... there are asari on Illium who say that purebloods are a waist of genetic potential and that is how they get throwbacks like the Ardat-Yakshi.


The Asari are also an extremely advanced, spacefaring species with FTLT who somehow haven't figured out how their own genetics work.  ("****ing Asari genetics, how do they work?")

What exists about Asari genetics that is canon doesn't make sense, and makes the Asari look like idiots for having a stigma against Purebloods.

I never thought of the "Purblood Stigma" angle, but your right.  There is quite a few inconsistencies in the game.  The Quarians and their immunity issues don't match up either from what I recall from an earlier thread.